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Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by random49er:
Yea, he was WR1 in terms of who our head coach wanted,...Lamb was WR2 and you two are kind of out of sync with the 411. Virtually every prospect can be very good if everything clicks,...placing early limitations on a position that's just about the biggest gamble simply because you're not a big fan of him is kind of silly. Give us some football reasons for why his potential is limited, on the other hand, and we're all listening.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Brian Peacock had a real nice objective podcast breakdown of Aiyuk's strengths and weaknesses.

It covered many of the same concerns I had for Pettis coming out of the PAC12 with one major difference; drive.

I wanted to list those "concerns" here so fans can keep an eye out for growth in these areas as well as develop realistic expectations for him. Again, these are just "concerns"...common to any rookie coming into the NFL:

1. Arms the length of a 6'7" player but doesn't play like that and in fact, let's a lot of balls come into the body; needs to become more of a hands catcher to utilize that big advantage including 40" vertical leaping.
2. One real year of production including as a kick returner. Raw but not a project.
3. Teams scouted him to be a CB. Went to Arizona State so he could play WR.
4. Core muscle surgery after the combine.
5. Limited experience in the slot.
6. PAC12 competition and DB's were garbage. Best competition he had was against Utah (CB drafted) and he had 1 catch for 7 yards.
7. Poor contested catches, only caught 3 of 14 in his career.
8. Some false steps like Pettis throwing off timing.
9. Did not see much press coverage and when he did, it wasn't good.
10. WCO terminology is going to be a huge learning curve for him.

We already know all his strengths!

Not answering for NY, but I thought these weaknesses were pretty accurate with emphasis on #9. I've watched most of his games on the Pac NETWORK and he RARELY didn't have free releases from the LOS. When he was pressed and CBs got physical with him at the LOS, it was UGLY. He got handled easily. This will be his biggest challenge in the NFL in my opinion. I do agree with NY in that he wasn't/isn't WR 1 in this class, I still think that title belongs to Lamb and Jeudy as 1a and 1b and unfortunately I think both will be better than Aiyuk in the NFL. Doesn't mean that Aiyuk can't be damn good especially considering Shanny as his coach

Yeah, Pettis was the exact same way. He just wasn't ever challenged. In WR film, I more often than not, watch the secondary as much as the WR. Clean, he's going to be terrific esp. after the catch. That mirrors a staple here.

Lamb, Jeudy and Aiyuk are all so different in skill sets. I see them in this order too at the NFL level but I'm not worried about the X much as that's going to be a 4-5 average per game target position in this offense anyway.
[ Edited by NCommand on May 24, 2020 at 6:56 AM ]
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yup agreed, I mean every player has some sort of weakness. Lamb also had a ton of free releases BUT he's so damn physical and when pressed it wasn't that huge of an issue.

Jeudy just has amazing releases of the LOS. He's not gonna have a problem getting open at the next level.

I like Ayiuk don't think he was WR1 in this draft class and I don't think he was worth moving up to get either. Is what it is, he's still talented and can be great in this system.

When the brain trust says they would take aiyuk 13, it sounds deranged frankly.

What's the purpose of saying stuff like that. IT reinforces the argument other fans have that our FO is disconnected and naive.

I know, that disconnected, naive NFC Champion front office with one of the most stacked rosters In the league, and built almost entirely through the draft. Those "other" fans you speak of can say all they want as they watch the niners dominate
We draft pretty well in the later rounds. And we didnt blow bosa.

Otherwise...
lynch drafts
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
We draft pretty well in the later rounds. And we didnt blow bosa.

Otherwise...
lynch drafts

Can you elaborate on how they dint draft well in the early rounds? We all know 2017 wasn't great, but I'd like to hear a little more how they are botching these early round picks either through drafting or trading.
We are getting good av from Mcg deebo warner. I think thats pretty good but weve been drafting pretty low the last four years. So we have to take that into consideration. Mcg feels like a sub optimal shenanigans pick due to the trent brown situation. I guess i just dont feel this staff will implement a sound needs based draft and will break discipline based on tape crush. Is that wrong?
Outside of 2017 they have brought in MM, Warner, Moore, Bosa and Samuel via the early rounds of the draft and parlayed other 2nd/3rd rounders into Williams, JG and Ford. That is great value for early round picks. And each of the years outside of 2017 where they have drafted low, they have hit
Were talking about the current regime. Well see how this years class pans out.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Were talking about the current regime. Well see how this years class pans out.

of course we are talking about the current regime. What do you mean?
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
We draft pretty well in the later rounds. And we didnt blow bosa.

Otherwise...
lynch drafts

I don't get your take at all.

They had a pretty brutal first round as first time HC/GMs and still added a lot of quality talent in that first draft.

McGlinchey and Fred Warner are great players.
Bosa and Deebo are terrific.

Other guys still have a chance to prove their worth. That includes Spoon and Pettis.

You also have to look at their additions via trade and UDFA. They're part of building a team as well.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
When the brain trust says they would take aiyuk 13, it sounds deranged frankly.

What's the purpose of saying stuff like that. IT reinforces the argument other fans have that our FO is disconnected and naive.

They were in the Super Bowl in their 3rd year. Wtf
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
When the brain trust says they would take aiyuk 13, it sounds deranged frankly.

What's the purpose of saying stuff like that. IT reinforces the argument other fans have that our FO is disconnected and naive.

They were in the Super Bowl in their 3rd year. Wtf

Some people's expectations are way out of whack.
Originally posted by genus49:
I don't get your take at all.

They had a pretty brutal first round as first time HC/GMs and still added a lot of quality talent in that first draft.

McGlinchey and Fred Warner are great players.
Bosa and Deebo are terrific.

Other guys still have a chance to prove their worth. That includes Spoon and Pettis.

You also have to look at their additions via trade and UDFA. They're part of building a team as well.

Im just talking about drafting part.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Were talking about the current regime. Well see how this years class pans out.

of course we are talking about the current regime. What do you mean?

I didnt understand the "outside of 2017" comment. Did you mean just 2018 2019?
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by genus49:
I don't get your take at all.

They had a pretty brutal first round as first time HC/GMs and still added a lot of quality talent in that first draft.

McGlinchey and Fred Warner are great players.
Bosa and Deebo are terrific.

Other guys still have a chance to prove their worth. That includes Spoon and Pettis.

You also have to look at their additions via trade and UDFA. They're part of building a team as well.

Im just talking about drafting part.

Ok but trading draft picks for good players hurts the drafts so it needs to be taken into consideration.
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