All Pro OT Trent Williams "Silverback",

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Howlett49:
And you can't tell me his living costs are 20 mil per. He's stacking with that kind of $ no matter where he lives

His take home would be about $10 million after state and federal taxes. That's still a lot but I have no idea what his expenses are. Does he have more than one mortgage? If so how many and how big ar ethey? Remember that these guys have a limited career and need to build a nest egg to be able to maintain their standard of living.

I know that sounds silly since most of these guys came from very humble homes but once they taste the good life, it's hard to go back to living at a lower standard. Most of them tend to overspend, just like many of us when we have a good job. It feels like the money will never end

Yup, a good portion of them file bankruptcy after their career ends.

It's easy to see why the way these contracts are structured. They sign a 4 year deal worth $20 million but the last 2 years are voidable. It makes it hard for anyone to really know how much they are going to get. Besides, look at how many people file for bankruptcy who aren'y athletes. Too many want a little more than they can afford and that's what happens. You hear ads all the time from bankruptcy attorneys. Even our former President had his share.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well it's information out there that says, maybe Trent will cost more than what Greg Papa is stating was the 49ers initial offer. I think guys like Trent will cost more to keep, its the mid tier Hyder/Ebukam guys that will have a much smaller paycheck this free agency period.

How does a broadcaster get that type of info? SF is Notorious for not leaking anything with this FO.

I don't buy it.

Not buying that we leaked details to prove we tried. It's already been proven we have been trying. There were national reports of us trying to resign him and an update that we were still working on it last night.

I was really hoping he'd stay because he wanted to be here and believed in what we where building. But I can see how KC would be far more attractive, even with less money.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Has anyone considered that maybe—just maybe—Papa is incorrect.

Hes not some NFL insider guy thats going after scoops. There is very little reason to not believe himm

Why would SF tell a broadcaster the contract info of one of their biggest FA signings in a while?

Yeah it was Lund and Papa that said yesterday Debo won't stay here beyond his rookie contract, and will be looking elsewhere. They asked Maiocco for comment and he went silent.

Not sure where these two get their info from since Baalke is long gone. They do work for the organization so maybe Guido needs to pay them a visit.

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by BYisGod:
Has anyone considered that maybe—just maybe—Papa is incorrect.

Hes not some NFL insider guy thats going after scoops. There is very little reason to not believe himm

Why would SF tell a broadcaster the contract info of one of their biggest FA signings in a while?

Papa is obviously a voice fans would trust. So if your SF and you think you are losing Trent, put it out there that you tried to sign him back for "good" money.

Or, someone from Trents camp wants him paid more and is leaking it through Papa.

You think fans wouldn't believe we tried to resign him unless a broadcaster said "here's the offer they made"?

Are you new here lol

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Papa is obviously a voice fans would trust. So if your SF and you think you are losing Trent, put it out there that you tried to sign him back for "good" money.

Or, someone from Trents camp wants him paid more and is leaking it through Papa.

Why we trusting a broadcaster named Papa? I don't trust anything right now

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Papa is obviously a voice fans would trust. So if your SF and you think you are losing Trent, put it out there that you tried to sign him back for "good" money.

Or, someone from Trents camp wants him paid more and is leaking it through Papa.

Why we trusting a broadcaster named Papa? I don't trust anything right now

A ton of BS flying around this time of year. Imo its just as likely Williams side leaked this out to try and get more $.

Originally posted by fropwns:

lol, dude in the background gets absolutely destroyed by Tidwell's wife during the injury scene

I'm so tired of hearing this FO tried and made a competitive offer. For the most part I've been able to accept that and haven't necessarily tripped off the guys we came close with but didn't get. This time is different. If they don't bring TW back this fan base should be calling for Lynch's head. No excuse to trade for a guy and play all nice promising no franchise tag. Then what? You can't f**king re-sign him. Your kindness is a weakness Lynch! Step it the f**k up and sign this man now!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Papa is obviously a voice fans would trust. So if your SF and you think you are losing Trent, put it out there that you tried to sign him back for "good" money.

Or, someone from Trents camp wants him paid more and is leaking it through Papa.

Why we trusting a broadcaster named Papa? I don't trust anything right now

I'm with gore. it's not just a broadcaster it's the team speaking through the broadcaster. could be Trent's camp but I think they would use a reporter over the team broadcaster. . Either way not a great sign in my eyes. Let's hope we get him signed

This ordeal with Trent Williams feels like a holdout... never thought I would see it in FA. He obviously wants to be here and feels like he could play for another 5-6, as he said on his last interview. Niners with Paraag have always gotten players to make deals that are team friendly. You can see Varrett's, Juice's, Armstead's, and Kittle's deal. Williams got played in Washington and they did not want to pay him. Niners may need to do a little better than the 4/80 million dollar contract. I would say it might need to be 4/92 million gets it done. The bigger the guaranteed money the better overall.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well it's information out there that says, maybe Trent will cost more than what Greg Papa is stating was the 49ers initial offer. I think guys like Trent will cost more to keep, its the mid tier Hyder/Ebukam guys that will have a much smaller paycheck this free agency period.

How does a broadcaster get that type of info? SF is Notorious for not leaking anything with this FO.

I don't buy it.

Good point. It's also not new information either. But the fact that Trent's not signed yet and no indication he's in a rush - and then this comes out, is important in a lot of ways. It could be Trent's agent leaking it, it could be the 49ers releasing the info for a reason, and I think the obvious reason is Trent's agent is still struggling to get more for Trent and the 49ers are putting up a good fight to keep it down. Which means the signing may not be today. We shall see.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I was really hoping he'd stay because he wanted to be here and believed in what we where building. But I can see how KC would be far more attractive, even with less money.

We can't lose to them again. They beat us 1st on Dee ford, then the super bowl. JL can't let them win again.

Originally posted by Howlett49:
I'm so tired of hearing this FO tried and made a competitive offer. For the most part I've been able to accept that and haven't necessarily tripped off the guys we came close with but didn't get. This time is different. If they don't bring TW back this fan base should be calling for Lynch's head. No excuse to trade for a guy and play all nice promising no franchise tag. Then what? You can't f**king re-sign him. Your kindness is a weakness Lynch! Step it the f**k up and sign this man now!

At any cost?

Originally posted by Gkhoury2325:
This ordeal with Trent Williams feels like a holdout... never thought I would see it in FA. He obviously wants to be here and feels like he could play for another 5-6, as he said on his last interview. Niners with Paraag have always gotten players to make deals that are team friendly. You can see Varrett's, Juice's, Armstead's, and Kittle's deal. Williams got played in Washington and they did not want to pay him. Niners may need to do a little better than the 4/80 million dollar contract. I would say it might need to be 4/92 million gets it done. The bigger the guaranteed money the better overall.

Yeah they're going to have to come up. You're right, It's all about the guaranteed money