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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Has a super bowl losing team ever gained this much talent in a single offseason? I would say that Aiyuk and Williams are better than Sanders and Staley.

+ Kinlaw

+ Aiyuk

+ Williams

- Staley

- Sanders

- Buckner

Are you seriously going to say that a rookie WR is already better than an established vet?

Talent wise, Aiyuk is.

If he can learn the polished route running, concentration and professionalism of Sanders Aiyuk will be a house hold name and perennial all pro, his raw material is that damn good. He will already bring a respect for the big play that Sanders at the age we had him no longer could. It will be a steep hill to climb for Aiyuk to be "better" in year one than Sanders, but he might be better for our team now that Sanders has been here and gone.
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Brunskill is our staring Guard for sure now, I am good there. Richburg and his lengthy injury history is my only major concern now.

I really hope they can pick up a couple picks through trading someone like Goodwin and Breida. There's some decently intriguing interior OL options that will be available late.
Originally posted by stefano89:
AND HOW THE f**k ARE WE GONNA PAY THIS GUY WHEN WE CAN BARELY PAY WHO WE ALREADY HAVE!!

Williams and Sherman on the same team, interesting. Very interesting.

"I'm gonna punch you in the face."

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Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Has a super bowl losing team ever gained this much talent in a single offseason? I would say that Aiyuk and Williams are better than Sanders and Staley.

+ Kinlaw

+ Aiyuk

+ Williams

- Staley

- Sanders

- Buckner

Are you seriously going to say that a rookie WR is already better than an established vet?

Talent wise, Aiyuk is.

If he can learn the polished route running, concentration and professionalism of Sanders Aiyuk will be a house hold name and perennial all pro, his raw material is that damn good. He will already bring a respect for the big play that Sanders at the age we had him no longer could. It will be a steep hill to climb for Aiyuk to be "better" in year one than Sanders, but he might be better for our team now that Sanders has been here and gone.

Couldn't agree more.
Originally posted by boast:
we have an open window right now. not really the time to start a rookie on the OL

just stating facts

Right. That's why these deals are being made. Keeping the window open while the sun is till shining
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Is trent williams a rental?
I doubt that VERY seriously. He'll get a contract, though I don't know how long given that he's 31. A 4 year contract maybe

But this is shocking. I honestly did not see this. I figured Joe would play one more year. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that we that we got a comparable replacement for Joe though. And we didn't have to mortgage our future to get him either. A 5th this year and next years 3rd isn't bad for a top 3 Pro Bowl left tackle.
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Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by stefano89:
AND HOW THE f**k ARE WE GONNA PAY THIS GUY WHEN WE CAN BARELY PAY WHO WE ALREADY HAVE!!


Williams will fit in Staley's space.
Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by stefano89:
AND HOW THE f**k ARE WE GONNA PAY THIS GUY WHEN WE CAN BARELY PAY WHO WE ALREADY HAVE!!


Thank you
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Williams and Sherman on the same team, interesting. Very interesting.

"I'm gonna punch you in the face."


That was like 6 years ago. I'm pretty sure both guys have moved past it.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by boast:
we have an open window right now. not really the time to start a rookie on the OL

just stating facts

Right. That's why these deals are being made. Keeping the window open while the sun is till shining

These are the kind of moves the Patriots made to be the only dynasty of the salary cap era. It remains to be seen if we can even approach that good, but I love the effort.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I thought the Trent Williams trade would silence NCommand for 4 hours, but I was wrong.

That's because you can't comprehend the point.

That's because you didn't make your point clear.

I have for 12 years in a row.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by okdkid:
STALEY RETIRES


Great move to get Williams and it looks like Staley actually helped!

Wow, ShanaLynch have stones passing on Wirfs. It doesn't sound like the TW trade was done when they made that pick.

Absolutely stupid.


Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by FL9er:
I don't know about you guys but I'd rather have Javon Kinlaw and Trent Williams than Tristan Wirfs (who may or may not be an NFL LT) and whatever DT could've been available to them in the draft, if not Kinlaw.

Wirfs is a RG to RT if needed.
Stupid. They pass on Wirfs, a talented 10 year tackle prospect. If they knew Staley was not coming back there was plenty of defensive tackles in free agency that cost what you're going to pay William's that would've been perfectly fine for the time being. Defensive tackles are a dime a dozen compared to talented offense tackles.
But still Upset that we traded away more draft picks rather than players. We're way beyond that, we need to be trading players not picks. And the last thing we should have done after a draft with like a record breaking low amount of picks (4 now!) is trade away 2021 picks. We have no 3rd rounder next year now.
All we have left this year is a 6th an 7th. This draft is over. We came out of the 2020 draft with 2 rookies basically. Can't believe it.

I love that lynch is willing to trade an move around unlike baalke was but he's getting way too fluid an giving up way too many resources that we're gonna need in the future.
Originally posted by kezar49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by okdkid:
STALEY RETIRES


Great move to get Williams and it looks like Staley actually helped!

Wow, ShanaLynch have stones passing on Wirfs. It doesn't sound like the TW trade was done when they made that pick.

Absolutely stupid.


Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by FL9er:
I don't know about you guys but I'd rather have Javon Kinlaw and Trent Williams than Tristan Wirfs (who may or may not be an NFL LT) and whatever DT could've been available to them in the draft, if not Kinlaw.

Wirfs is a RG to RT if needed.
Stupid. They pass on Wirfs, a talented 10 year tackle prospect. If they knew Staley was not coming back there was plenty of defensive tackles in free agency that cost what you're going to pay William's that would've been perfectly fine for the time being. Defensive tackles are a dime a dozen compared to talented offense tackles.
Boy am I glad some of you don't run the team
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