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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I love ya NC, but c'mon man, they just got the 2nd best DT and a 7 time pro bowl LT, and getting WIrfs would be redundant IMO, he's a RT and RG, we're fine at those, Brunskill is a good player, they know more than we do, people always overreact, no need to do this. We have a great OL IMO, and Kinlaw is a better DT than Taylor or any of the other IDL we have, so I'm happy with this draft/offseason.

If you think an AAF talent in Brunskill is in the same talent level as Wirfs, I'm going to have to slightly disagree with you. Wirfs also gives you the added benefit of keeping top talent at T should McGlinchey go down (he goes down every year with injury).

What does AAF have to do with anything?

Talent level.

Referencing AAF just seems to be a way to try and denigrate the guy. Not all good players are division 1 1st round picks....not even kind of. He proved last year he could play at a high level, so him coming from AAF means absolutely nothing .
Niners just drafted an OT in 5th btw. Not too familiar with him.

We should have drafted a number 1 TE with our 1st round pick. George Kittle is only a 5th round talent.

You are aware there are all levels of talent. Just because he dons a 49er uniform does not mean he has supreme talent. Teams maximize supreme talent to give themselves the best chance to win. Comparing a top 10 talent to Daniel Brunskill is comical...not meant to degrade the player himself. Hard work and dedication will take you far. And he's earned the right to compete against top talent like Wirfs.

Sorry but the only one comparing Brunskill to a top 10 talent is you.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Because they knew before the draft and there was no guarantee they'd get Trent Williams and they STILL went 3T.

I believe the deal was done but not announced. I cannot accept the idea that they knew Staley was retiring and passed on Wirfs.

They knew they had Williams so they could feel safe to move back a spot and still get Kinlaw. Further, the 4th they got in the move allowed them to get Aiyuk. I do not believe that was all just luck. It all spun off the assurance the LT spot was secure.

Adam S. said they started talking a couple days ago. Comsumated today. Washington instantly drafted a T with our pick. They were most likely waiting to make sure they got their guy. And this is the Washington FO. Nobody should trust any deal in place until it's legal. Schneider is that kind of ass hat. Niners took a massive calculated risk here going 3T.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 25, 2020 at 11:46 AM ]
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Is he better than Joe?

In 2020? Being younger, the better player in his prime, and after a year's rest, I'd say yes after he gets his feet re-wet.

But Joe was long gone so it is what it is. You cant really replace retired legends. What you can do is do your best to move on.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
T.W not screwing around, all heart and won't back down!

We needed this attitude up front. Plus he socked Sherman so fast, he looked like Suge Knight in his prime LOL

Suge Knight in his prime. LOL
You live & die in the trenches... we bulked up our trenches... as well as grabbed another playmaker. Not the prettiest/flashy moves but damn good ones
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Originally posted by random49er:
One more time so it is clear,...If Washington, San Fran, or Staley, or Trent had let this out of the bag,...we probably don't get Aiyuk.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Because they knew before the draft and there was no guarantee they'd get Trent Williams and they STILL went 3T.

I believe the deal was done but not announced. I cannot accept the idea that they knew Staley was retiring and passed on Wirfs.

They knew they had Williams so they could feel safe to move back a spot and still get Kinlaw. Further, the 4th they got in the move allowed them to get Aiyuk. I do not believe that was all just luck. It all spun off the assurance the LT spot was secure.

Adam S. said they started talking a couple days ago. Comsumated today. Washington instantly drafted a T with our pick. They were most likely waiting to make sure they got their guy. And this is the Washington FO. Nobody should trust any deal in place until it's legal. Schneider is that kind of ass hat. Niners took a massive calculated risk here going 3T.

Washington drafted a T with their pick. We traded a 5th, they used the 4th they already had. The Williams announcement came immediately after. Seems extremely likely the deal was already done and everyone agreed to stay quiet so Washington wouldn't get jumped for an OT. Tells you how much people trust Lynch. Washington could have gotten burned.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Because they knew before the draft and there was no guarantee they'd get Trent Williams and they STILL went 3T.

I believe the deal was done but not announced. I cannot accept the idea that they knew Staley was retiring and passed on Wirfs.

They knew they had Williams so they could feel safe to move back a spot and still get Kinlaw. Further, the 4th they got in the move allowed them to get Aiyuk. I do not believe that was all just luck. It all spun off the assurance the LT spot was secure.

Adam S. said they started talking a couple days ago. Comsumated today. Washington instantly drafted a T with our pick. They were most likely waiting to make sure they got their guy. And this is the Washington FO. Nobody should trust any deal in place until it's legal. Schneider is that kind of ass hat. Niners took a massive calculated risk here going 3T.

How does a rookie Tackle make us better though NC? Brunskill played really well for us, drafting a RT/RG top 15 is stupid IMO, he isn't Quenton Nelson.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And draft Wirfs would have been a MASSIVE downgrade

A lot of people see Wirfs more as a guard than a tackle. At best I think he's a right tackle. Not sure where this idea came from that he was this "can't miss" offensive tackle prospect. He's not your typical Iowa lineman where he's come out all polished with top notch technical ability. Despite his freakish athleticism, he didn't show it off consistently out on the field.

So you acquire Wirfs, who is far less than optimal as a tackle prospect. Now you go DT at #31 and get someone this is less than Kinlaw as a DT prospect. Then you go WR in the 5th and you get someone far less optimal than Aiyuk as a WR prospect. You've just shifted your draft class from quality to quantity and mediocrity.

Why would you go DT at 31? Aiyuk still at 25. IDT are a dime a dozen. We already have a dozen.

And there was no confidence in them. We should've known when Thomas's 5th year option wasn't picked up.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I love ya NC, but c'mon man, they just got the 2nd best DT and a 7 time pro bowl LT, and getting WIrfs would be redundant IMO, he's a RT and RG, we're fine at those, Brunskill is a good player, they know more than we do, people always overreact, no need to do this. We have a great OL IMO, and Kinlaw is a better DT than Taylor or any of the other IDL we have, so I'm happy with this draft/offseason.

If you think an AAF talent in Brunskill is in the same talent level as Wirfs, I'm going to have to slightly disagree with you. Wirfs also gives you the added benefit of keeping top talent at T should McGlinchey go down (he goes down every year with injury).

What does AAF have to do with anything?

Talent level.

Referencing AAF just seems to be a way to try and denigrate the guy. Not all good players are division 1 1st round picks....not even kind of. He proved last year he could play at a high level, so him coming from AAF means absolutely nothing .
Niners just drafted an OT in 5th btw. Not too familiar with him.

We should have drafted a number 1 TE with our 1st round pick. George Kittle is only a 5th round talent.

Lol

He's right. We should have. Had they known Kittle's full ability, he would have been a 1st round pick. Talent slips through the cracks all the time but comparing a consensus top 4 T, top 10 T to a player out of the AAF is a little odd.
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Originally posted by okdkid:

Yes sir!!
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He's gonna tell Sherman that he's slow af
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Originally posted by badguy_1:


https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/8/30/20749082/trent-williams-washington-left-tackle-holdout-morgan-moses-breakdown
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Because they knew before the draft and there was no guarantee they'd get Trent Williams and they STILL went 3T.

I believe the deal was done but not announced. I cannot accept the idea that they knew Staley was retiring and passed on Wirfs.

They knew they had Williams so they could feel safe to move back a spot and still get Kinlaw. Further, the 4th they got in the move allowed them to get Aiyuk. I do not believe that was all just luck. It all spun off the assurance the LT spot was secure.

Adam S. said they started talking a couple days ago. Comsumated today. Washington instantly drafted a T with our pick. They were most likely waiting to make sure they got their guy. And this is the Washington FO. Nobody should trust any deal in place until it's legal. Schneider is that kind of ass hat. Niners took a massive calculated risk here going 3T.

You may be right, however, given Brunskill's play last season, it wasn't quite the massive risk you claim.

I still believe there was at least the strong possibility the deal was on before the draft...and I may be wrong.
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