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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Clearly he's retired.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Clearly he's retired.

Back at practice to announce his retirement
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
When asked if there is more going on with Williams' injury than a low-ankle sprain, Shanahan responded, "Yeah, I think obviously there is. I mean, he's got a lot of history in there with stuff. It didn't show up as a high or anything like that, but when you've had that over your career, there's a number of things that, with how it's taken longer than expected to heal, it's more than a low."

So it was probably mis-diagnosed and is a high ankle sprain.

As someone who has had multiple sprains to the same ankle when I was in high school, I can tell you that to this day 25 years later I still have a looseness in it. And that's just in everyday life, not playing pro football. So it's no surprise to me that it's been bothersome to Williams without necessarily being a high ankle sprain.

When I was around 23 or so I stepped in a hole covered with leaves while hunting. My awesome above the calf hunting boots kept things from being worse than they could have been. I am 55 now and since that day I can re aggravate that ankle very easily. Stepped out of my truck 2 weeks in a parking lot but there was a small limestone rock and my foot turned ever so slightly and I could feel it all over again.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Good. Wasn't thrilled at the prospect of no TW and Banks

I hope he can make it through the game.
Guess it was just a rest day. Welcome back Trent
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
When asked if there is more going on with Williams' injury than a low-ankle sprain, Shanahan responded, "Yeah, I think obviously there is. I mean, he's got a lot of history in there with stuff. It didn't show up as a high or anything like that, but when you've had that over your career, there's a number of things that, with how it's taken longer than expected to heal, it's more than a low."

So it was probably mis-diagnosed and is a high ankle sprain.

As someone who has had multiple sprains to the same ankle when I was in high school, I can tell you that to this day 25 years later I still have a looseness in it. And that's just in everyday life, not playing pro football. So it's no surprise to me that it's been bothersome to Williams without necessarily being a high ankle sprain.

When I was around 23 or so I stepped in a hole covered with leaves while hunting. My awesome above the calf hunting boots kept things from being worse than they could have been. I am 55 now and since that day I can re aggravate that ankle very easily. Stepped out of my truck 2 weeks in a parking lot but there was a small limestone rock and my foot turned ever so slightly and I could feel it all over again.

Yeah, it sucks. My ankle cricks when I walk down stairs or do the point-toe-out, then angle-toe-upward movement. My last two years of high school my Mom would know I finally came downstairs to go shower before school because she could here my ankle crick-crick-crick on my way down.
Hope hes fully healthy and back, not just the oh i'll play through the pain and injure it more during the game.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Hope hes fully healthy and back, not just the oh i'll play through the pain and injure it more during the game.

Seriously.
Love Trent and he's played well for us, but we should have already anticipated him being a guy that might be lost to injury, even if it's just a couple games a year. He's getting up in age, why in the world haven't they emphasized OL depth in the draft?
Originally posted by Patton:
Love Trent and he's played well for us, but we should have already anticipated him being a guy that might be lost to injury, even if it's just a couple games a year. He's getting up in age, why in the world haven't they emphasized OL depth in the draft?

Why? Easy answer. The Niners draft late nearly every year and the top O line talent goes early because there isn't a lot of depth in the draft at that position. Every team always needs O linemen. By the time the Niners pick they usually elect to fill other needs because there is more value available. The Niners rarely have multiple high draft picks. They always have multiple mid round picks. With mid round picks you're probably going to get mid level talent.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Patton:
Love Trent and he's played well for us, but we should have already anticipated him being a guy that might be lost to injury, even if it's just a couple games a year. He's getting up in age, why in the world haven't they emphasized OL depth in the draft?

Why? Easy answer. The Niners draft late nearly every year and the top O line talent goes early because there isn't a lot of depth in the draft at that position. Every team always needs O linemen. By the time the Niners pick they usually elect to fill other needs because there is more value available. The Niners rarely have multiple high draft picks. They always have multiple mid round picks. With mid round picks you're probably going to get mid level talent.

I'd argue that we could have traded the 3rd rounder spent on Moody with an additional late round pick and moved up high enough to land a solid OL that could have contributed this season.
Originally posted by Patton:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Patton:
Love Trent and he's played well for us, but we should have already anticipated him being a guy that might be lost to injury, even if it's just a couple games a year. He's getting up in age, why in the world haven't they emphasized OL depth in the draft?

Why? Easy answer. The Niners draft late nearly every year and the top O line talent goes early because there isn't a lot of depth in the draft at that position. Every team always needs O linemen. By the time the Niners pick they usually elect to fill other needs because there is more value available. The Niners rarely have multiple high draft picks. They always have multiple mid round picks. With mid round picks you're probably going to get mid level talent.

I'd argue that we could have traded the 3rd rounder spent on Moody with an additional late round pick and moved up high enough to land a solid OL that could have contributed this season.

Like who? If there was a solid lineman available then why would anyone pass them up and trade with the Niners. It's always a gamble when you draft and the later the pick the bigger the gamble. That doesn't mean you can't get lucky but there's a reason teams covet those first 15-20 picks. The top talent drops off after that. If there was a dedent linman available, maybe the Niners tried to make a trade and couldn't find anyone willing. We don't know.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Nov 10, 2023 at 7:52 AM ]
Originally posted by Patton:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Patton:
Love Trent and he's played well for us, but we should have already anticipated him being a guy that might be lost to injury, even if it's just a couple games a year. He's getting up in age, why in the world haven't they emphasized OL depth in the draft?

Why? Easy answer. The Niners draft late nearly every year and the top O line talent goes early because there isn't a lot of depth in the draft at that position. Every team always needs O linemen. By the time the Niners pick they usually elect to fill other needs because there is more value available. The Niners rarely have multiple high draft picks. They always have multiple mid round picks. With mid round picks you're probably going to get mid level talent.

I'd argue that we could have traded the 3rd rounder spent on Moody with an additional late round pick and moved up high enough to land a solid OL that could have contributed this season.
is that what you did in madden ?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Hope hes fully healthy and back, not just the oh i'll play through the pain and injure it more during the game.

Seriously.

Don't risk it if not 100%. J Moore is -- astonishingly -- playing at 73.6 pff -- don't ask me how. Not great, not terrible, but a little better than solid. With deebs back we can make it through this game as long as shanny comes up with a real game plan.

Start J Moore, see how it goes. If our d shows up and brock leads a couple of td drives, no need to put in the big guy.

Who plays RDE for jags now on pass downs?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Patton:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Patton:
Love Trent and he's played well for us, but we should have already anticipated him being a guy that might be lost to injury, even if it's just a couple games a year. He's getting up in age, why in the world haven't they emphasized OL depth in the draft?

Why? Easy answer. The Niners draft late nearly every year and the top O line talent goes early because there isn't a lot of depth in the draft at that position. Every team always needs O linemen. By the time the Niners pick they usually elect to fill other needs because there is more value available. The Niners rarely have multiple high draft picks. They always have multiple mid round picks. With mid round picks you're probably going to get mid level talent.

I'd argue that we could have traded the 3rd rounder spent on Moody with an additional late round pick and moved up high enough to land a solid OL that could have contributed this season.
is that what you did in madden ?

Nothing wrong with the idea of trying to trade up to get a player but some people seem to think it's easy to do. You're right. It's not Madden. The Niners or any other team can't do something just because it's a good idea. It's too bad being a GM isn't that easy. Sometimes our fans think the GM is an idiot and they know way more than he does. News flash. You don't. They eat, sleep and drink football. Their jobs depend on their decisions. Lynch has played at a high level in college and the NFL. He's had several years now as GM and has proven his ability. No matter how much football you watch you don't know more than he does. He has the benefit of a whole staff of scouts as well as his own film watching.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Nov 10, 2023 at 10:04 AM ]
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