All Pro OT Trent Williams "Silverback",

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Is guaranteed money just guaranteed for injury and team roster cuts, or is it also guaranteed for retirement?

If it's even guaranteed for retirement TW is really trying hard to **** us

I have never heard of guaranteed for retirement. That would be leaguewide suicide lol.

I believe it is still guaranteed for retirement.

I doubt that. If it was then players would just retire after they signed one of those guaranteed contracts. Why would they risk a serious injury? If they retire because of a serious injury then it's probably guaranteed. At least a portion of it. Every contract has different wording.

Didn't the Lions try to sue Calvin Johnson to give the remaining guaranteed money that was left on his contract when he retired?

I'll have to look into it but there's a difference between a player actually getting the money and it counting against the salary cap, right?

Jeez man don't waste time looking it up. Let the team figure it out. Too many complications and loopholes in these contracts now. Then they want to renegotiate halfway through or get redone by the team for cap reasons. They're more complex than Kyle's offense.

The window is closing. Kyle botched his chance to make a dynasty out of this team. Now you got players demanding more on a team that hasn't won a Superbowl in recent memory. It all wreaks.

Can't let these guys control the future of this franchise. Trent is old. He's not the future. BA is not Rice reincarnate. And he's not AJ Brown or Jefferson. Let these tools walk (trade). Use the saved money to keep guys Lenoire and Ward and Greenlaw on the roster. Sign your franchise QB. You'll have a shot for a decent WR in FA next year and you already have two potential decent guys in Pearsall and Cowling.

Done with these schmucks…

Originally posted by DrEll:
The window is closing. Kyle botched his chance to make a dynasty out of this team. Now you got players demanding more on a team that hasn't won a Superbowl in recent memory. It all wreaks.

Can't let these guys control the future of this franchise. Trent is old. He's not the future. BA is not Rice reincarnate. And he's not AJ Brown or Jefferson. Let these tools walk (trade). Use the saved money to keep guys Lenoire and Ward and Greenlaw on the roster. Sign your franchise QB. You'll have a shot for a decent WR in FA next year and you already have two potential decent guys in Pearsall and Cowling.

Done with these schmucks…

They keep not drafting offensive line early. Because Kyle is stubborn. Look what we have now. What a mess.

Originally posted by DrEll:
The window is closing. Kyle botched his chance to make a dynasty out of this team. Now you got players demanding more on a team that hasn't won a Superbowl in recent memory. It all wreaks.

Can't let these guys control the future of this franchise. Trent is old. He's not the future. BA is not Rice reincarnate. And he's not AJ Brown or Jefferson. Let these tools walk (trade). Use the saved money to keep guys Lenoire and Ward and Greenlaw on the roster. Sign your franchise QB. You'll have a shot for a decent WR in FA next year and you already have two potential decent guys in Pearsall and Cowling.

Done with these schmucks…

Reeks. Good, sir. Reeks.

Peace and Humptiness Forever.

Originally posted by NC49er:
I wouldn't worry about it. The chances the 49ers even get back to the SB back to back is not statistically in their favor. Not to mention the odds that they actually shut down Mahommes or the KC Zebras or the league making them sway the calls to benefit the larger profit pool with the betting pot.

The 49ers need to up their offers slightly and say that's all we're gonna do,play or lose $, to BA and TW.
Especially TW but also BA ( or any NFL starter) it's not like he/they ever have to worry about getting in line at the free soup kitchen or going to the food bank ,or their generations to come.

Fans care about rings but most player's it's the money and only the $ that matters 1st,2nd & 3rd.

If I were fortunate enough to be one of them I'd probably be the same way, but for people that actually work for a living see athletes, who have been spoiled from around College on, holdout,whine and complain because they want to make 30 million per year instead of 26-28 the sympathy goes out the window.

These are the facts. The 49ers have these guys under contract so it goes like this. The team can tell them "we have your rights the next 3 seasons, so ... you either play here and make your money or you hold out and make none and the fines will be enforced". Those are the facts. The only way these guys can feed their families is if they get on the field for the 49ers or they will make no money. Bottom line!

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Quick Conversation Notes:

--League source said teams are still making calls for DTs and CBs.

--Says it'll be interesting to watch what #Titans do to further bolster LB depth questions.

--Stated they're hearing Trent Williams wants to be 'paid-paid' like the very important… pic.twitter.com/ybEUpD9rHX

— JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) August 27, 2024

kinda weird it's not a source from SF lol?

Agreed but tbh my gut tells me this is exactly it. TW is about the money.

I am between laughing and being depressed because we saw this com ing one way or another and this is why I kept on about pounding o line early and often this past draft, but nope.

Kyle said at the start of camp they had considered TW would do this, but were hoping he didn't and unfortunately he did.

I have no idea why they take these SB run crippling risks. For all the disagreeing people have on here it's fairly unanimous TW is the most important piece and they should have started addressing that asap.

tbh I cannot see us winning it all without TW, but if we cave then it's this year and after that the roster gets blown up.

I wouldn't worry about it. The chances the 49ers even get back to the SB back to back is not statistically in their favor. Not to mention the odds that they actually shut down Mahommes or the KC Zebras or the league making them sway the calls to benefit the larger profit pool with the betting pot.

The 49ers need to up their offers slightly and say that's all we're gonna do,play or lose $, to BA and TW.
Especially TW but also BA ( or any NFL starter) it's not like he/they ever have to worry about getting in line at the free soup kitchen or going to the food bank ,or their generations to come.

Fans care about rings but most player's it's the money and only the $ that matters 1st,2nd & 3rd.

If I were fortunate enough to be one of them I'd probably be the same way, but for people that actually work for a living see athletes, who have been spoiled from around College on, holdout,whine and complain because they want to make 30 million per year instead of 26-28 the sympathy goes out the window.

I logically agree and emotionally hope we're wrong. After we lost I said odds are we missed our chance again. Purdy gives me hope but you'd think they build him a wicked o-line.

Yep, I'm not routing against the team but history shows a repeat is not likely. (unless your QB's name was Brady or is Mahommes) I do have confidence BP will up his game even more this season but they just can't seem to manage to get over the hump to seal the deal.

I have to temper my enthusiasm because I am tired of seeing it slip away the past 3 times they were there.

It's not as bad as what the Bill's fans endured with 4 straight SB appearances and losses but we are approaching the number 4 😬

Originally posted by NC49er:
Yep, I'm not routing against the team but history shows a repeat is not likely. (unless your QB's name was Brady or is Mahommes) I do have confidence BP will up his game even more this season but they just can't seem to manage to get over the hump to seal the deal.

I have to temper my enthusiasm because I am tired of seeing it slip away the past 3 times they were there.

It's not as bad as what the Bill's fans endured with 4 straight SB appearances and losses but we are approaching the number 4 😬

Making it to the Super Bowl is a lot better than not making it though. And even though we lost, I do think we were the better team all 3 times. I think too Vegas had us favored all 3 times too.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Exactly.

Good business by him but my only
problem is if it's about money why must these guys insist they get it here?

Dont kno if I'd refer to Trent Williams as a "guy."

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Making it to the Super Bowl is a lot better than not making it though. And even though we lost, I do think we were the better team all 3 times. I think too Vegas had us favored all 3 times too.

4.5 point favorite against the Ravens.
2 point favorite last year.
1.5 point underdog against the Chiefs the first time.

Last year was the first time we lost a playoff game as a favorite under KS.

Originally posted by random49er:
Dont kno if I'd refer to Trent Williams as a "guy."

He's a HOFer for sure but what I'm saying is that if you're playing on this team built to win with multiple A list players to the tune of 9 top 100 players wouldn't it make sense to a veteran that if we are to keep this thing together we can't pay every player top of market or else if we try that we will likely lose three or four of those guys in the process and then we turn into an NFC South squad? If money is what you want over what we have then be willing to go to NE or the NFC South

That sure seems logical to me. At least Deforest went to the Colts got his bag and hasn't seen the playoffs since

Then it's likely we pay Trent anyway but we can't keep doing this every couple of offseasons either

Kittle and Warner didn't ask for raises when they saw players at their positions getting paid more than them despite not being nearly as good.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Kittle and Warner didn't ask for raises when they saw players at their positions getting paid more than them despite not being nearly as good.

Those gents have integrity. TW doesn't (neither does BA but his circumstances are arguably different). Myself, I'd rather those "guys" weren't on the team.
TW in particular is as fickle as they come. As an organization, one cannot rest the foundation of the team on guys like that. It's malpractice on the part of the Niners FO not to have built in safeguards. Their disregard on not shoring up the OL over the years is just gross negligence.
Fortunately, I believe that Purdy is good enough to be able to work around much of that. But we shouldn't expect miracles.

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Those gents have integrity. TW doesn't (neither does BA but his circumstances are arguably different). Myself, I'd rather those "guys" weren't on the team.
TW in particular is as fickle as they come. As an organization, one cannot rest the foundation of the team on guys like that. It's malpractice on the part of the Niners FO not to have built in safeguards. Their disregard on not shoring up the OL over the years is just gross negligence.
Fortunately, I believe that Purdy is good enough to be able to work around much of that. But we shouldn't expect miracles.

Yea my thing is when you make your second contract you make sure you get the best bag you can get to secure your family and when you set the market you know that's for a short time so invest your money and let it make money for you. In a couple years when the market has moved upwards so has your invested money so that the guys making a couple million more than you don't actually HAVE more millions than you because they have to EARN it while you've already SAVED it

What are some of these guys doing with their money? Buying jewelry and tricking it off? Save that bread and build equity and play for your third deal and play for a chip and build your legacy and your retirement. Don't pocket watch others until your own next opportunity to cash in.

If QBs did this they would be at the table annually seeking raises

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Kittle and Warner didn't ask for raises when they saw players at their positions getting paid more than them despite not being nearly as good.

Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

Send this guy to Carolina. He can finish his career with a s**t load of money and no SB ring to his legacy.