All Pro OT Trent Williams "Silverback",

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Do you actually think they could have drafted a tackle with nearly as much talent as Trent? There might have been one in the last 3 drafts that was even close and the 49ers would have no shot at drafting him. Those top tier tackles are gone in the first 15 picks or less.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Do you actually think they could have drafted a tackle with nearly as much talent as Trent? There might have been one in the last 3 drafts that was even close and the 49ers would have no shot at drafting him. Those top tier tackles are gone in the first 15 picks or less.

No way do you replace trent that easily but you do at least work toward replacing him. Has this team worked toward replacing TW?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Do you actually think they could have drafted a tackle with nearly as much talent as Trent? There might have been one in the last 3 drafts that was even close and the 49ers would have no shot at drafting him. Those top tier tackles are gone in the first 15 picks or less.

It's not about as much talent as preparing for future. I give Trent two years then what? There should have been someone coming up the rears and preparing. We will not be able to afford a super high priced free agent at arguably the third highest cost position. Wait for it and cry later.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:
The window is closing. Kyle botched his chance to make a dynasty out of this team. Now you got players demanding more on a team that hasn't won a Superbowl in recent memory. It all wreaks.

Can't let these guys control the future of this franchise. Trent is old. He's not the future. BA is not Rice reincarnate. And he's not AJ Brown or Jefferson. Let these tools walk (trade). Use the saved money to keep guys Lenoire and Ward and Greenlaw on the roster. Sign your franchise QB. You'll have a shot for a decent WR in FA next year and you already have two potential decent guys in Pearsall and Cowling.

Done with these schmucks…

They keep not drafting offensive line early. Because Kyle is stubborn. Look what we have now. What a mess.

I dunno SD

They had a LT on lock down, so when it comes to first round picks....they had a LT.

In the last 5 years they spent a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th on the line.

It's very possible they are just too comfortable with the players they have, and think drafting guys to sit on the bench, when you are already low on draft capital due to Lance was bad resource management.

I think we, as fans....are absolutely NOT comfortable with the line we have, and are reacting to what appears to be a very poor draft in 2022 (minus Purdy of course) and what was given up for Trey Lance.

The fact the team is as loaded as it is, ....well....that is a blessing in-itself.

I wonder how much the shift from Lance, to Purdy has affected the direction of the offense, and in retrospect how the draft picks plug into that offense. I wonder if some of the dudes drafted were aimed at a different shade of offense, or a different shade of defense and if that has any effect on some of these dudes just not working.

I doubt we would be running the same plays with Lance we ran with Purdy, and we saw first hand how the defense has changed. We need a tried and true guy on defense that thinks being a DC is the max, and is not going to be hunting for a head coaching job and really nail down some consistency on both sides of the ball.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Do you actually think they could have drafted a tackle with nearly as much talent as Trent? There might have been one in the last 3 drafts that was even close and the 49ers would have no shot at drafting him. Those top tier tackles are gone in the first 15 picks or less.

It's not about as much talent as preparing for future. I give Trent two years then what? There should have been someone coming up the rears and preparing. We will not be able to afford a super high priced free agent at arguably the third highest cost position. Wait for it and cry later.

There is someone one coming up, Moore

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Do you actually think they could have drafted a tackle with nearly as much talent as Trent? There might have been one in the last 3 drafts that was even close and the 49ers would have no shot at drafting him. Those top tier tackles are gone in the first 15 picks or less.

It's not about as much talent as preparing for future. I give Trent two years then what? There should have been someone coming up the rears and preparing. We will not be able to afford a super high priced free agent at arguably the third highest cost position. Wait for it and cry later.

I agree that they should be looking for his replacement but I don't want to see them pick whoever is left in the draft. Unfortunately when you pick near the end of every round you aren't going to get a chance to draft top O line talent. There just aren't that many. Last season was one of the best in years and they were all gone when the 49ers picked. Maybe they could have taken a shot at someone that was still there but if he didn't pan out then fans would be ripping the pick and complaining that they should have taken so and so. Fans are good at drafting after the fact.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Who?

Who would you have drafted as an insurance plan against a potential hold out?

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Who?

Who would you have drafted as an insurance plan against a potential hold out?

The starting LT for the Chiefs, Kingsley Sumaiataia, who we gifted them and let them trade into our spot in the 2nd to get

Originally posted by 49ers808:
The starting LT for the Chiefs, Kingsley Sumaiataia, who we gifted them and let them trade into our spot in the 2nd to get

If Kingsley turns out to be a good player, that would be two OTs that the 49ers gifted to other teams.

Got to get Trent Williams back, just pay this man. Who is the Jets best DE? I really doubt Jaylon Moore can hold his own against that defense. What if behind the scenes Trent is secretly threatening to retire, NOW WHAT!!!

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
The starting LT for the Chiefs, Kingsley Sumaiataia, who we gifted them and let them trade into our spot in the 2nd to get

If Kingsley turns out to be a good player, that would be two OTs that the 49ers gifted to other teams.

One of my earliest mock drafts was Graham Barton (starting C for the Bucs) and then Kingsley with our first two picks. Potential starting five right off the bat:

Trent Williams
Aaron Banks
Graham Barton
Jon Feliciano
Kingsley Sumaitaia

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Different types of people. Don't get me wrong, it is a business, but TW is being a b***h.

He has made a ton of money and is a HoF that everyone respects. The only thing he needs is a ring which you think would be the thing he wants most to cap off his career, but its obvious that's not goal #1 to him in the twilight of his career. So as 49AlltheTime hinted, maybe he's terrible with money or that is simply what he is about?

Many of us figured they'd draft a tackle or two given his age/health, McKivitz performance, and we even wondered about him financially as we guessed hes want to guarantee these last few years to a degree. If fans can calculate that I am not sure how the team did not. The FO really f'ed up here.

This!

The 49ers could have avoided this simply by addressing the line in one of the last 3 drafts. As it stands now TW knows what a key he is to the team. He's simply playing the game and theres no way I'm gonna blame him for it, This FO dropped the ball big time. You reap what you sow 49ers front office..............

Who?

Who would you have drafted as an insurance plan against a potential hold out?

Exactly. This dead horse got beaten routinely around the draft. There has been ZERO indication this team wants to develop a young LT that may or may not work out. I fully expect them to do exactly what they did when Staley retired. Sign or trade for a veteran LT.

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
The starting LT for the Chiefs, Kingsley Sumaiataia, who we gifted them and let them trade into our spot in the 2nd to get

If Kingsley turns out to be a good player, that would be two OTs that the 49ers gifted to other teams.

One of my earliest mock drafts was Graham Barton (starting C for the Bucs) and then Kingsley with our first two picks. Potential starting five right off the bat:

Trent Williams
Aaron Banks
Graham Barton
Jon Feliciano
Kingsley Sumaitaia

We could have had Kingsley and Puni. Just wow. That would be incredible.

The Chiefs basically fixed their OL in one season after Tampa won the SB.

Are they that much smarter than us?

And it's more than the LT. We're paying the price for not being VERY aggressive in in the draft and FA in upgrading the whole OL.

We could have done it in 2 seasons. I know the draft is a crap shoot and we've definitely improved the secondary. We must do the same for the OL.

Most of our OL are solid back-ups who benefit from KS game plans. Ans our back-ups are practice squad kind of players.

Trent is the only difference maker and Aaron is solid.

If he's not playing every DC will have their best DE over Moore and McKivitz.