Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:We need O line way more in the draft than D line our D line is better than our o line.Does not matter how good we are on Defense because if they stop them this o line is going to give the ball back , but if we can control the clock or score a lot of points that can help make up for a sub par d line but it's not going to work the other way around.Bottom line just like the other posters said we are not going to win a Super Bowl until we fix the o. Line.
McGlinch was the zone's whipping boy and well deserved. He was bad until his contract year. No way would you extend a guy like that
injuries sabotaged our OL in camp and continues to do so. Making it harder for everyone.
as for draft, picking OL high and consecutively isn't a safe recipe as you can be left with bust OL and no skill players. There have been times where you can get lucky with OL slipping down the draft board but that isn't consistent enough to make anyone feel that it's a lock.
and you can't say his offenses go no where when they have taken us to the highest you can go without having a number 1 OL.
I'm not saying we don't need to upgrade, we certainly do. And now is a time we can, as we have a lot of core pieces still in place.
There are 366 users in the forums
All Pro OT Trent Williams "Silverback",
Dec 22, 2024 at 10:08 PM
- Atrain
- Veteran
- Posts: 145
Dec 22, 2024 at 10:25 PM
- 49AllTheTime
- Veteran
- Posts: 70,552
Originally posted by Atrain:Defense wins championships
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:We need O line way more in the draft than D line our D line is better than our o line.Does not matter how good we are on Defense because if they stop them this o line is going to give the ball back , but if we can control the clock or score a lot of points that can help make up for a sub par d line but it's not going to work the other way around.Bottom line just like the other posters said we are not going to win a Super Bowl until we fix the o. Line.
McGlinch was the zone's whipping boy and well deserved. He was bad until his contract year. No way would you extend a guy like that
injuries sabotaged our OL in camp and continues to do so. Making it harder for everyone.
as for draft, picking OL high and consecutively isn't a safe recipe as you can be left with bust OL and no skill players. There have been times where you can get lucky with OL slipping down the draft board but that isn't consistent enough to make anyone feel that it's a lock.
and you can't say his offenses go no where when they have taken us to the highest you can go without having a number 1 OL.
I'm not saying we don't need to upgrade, we certainly do. And now is a time we can, as we have a lot of core pieces still in place.
and we didn't lose the SB due to our OL
Dec 23, 2024 at 5:49 AM
- Schulzy
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,286
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Atrain:Defense wins championships
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:We need O line way more in the draft than D line our D line is better than our o line.Does not matter how good we are on Defense because if they stop them this o line is going to give the ball back , but if we can control the clock or score a lot of points that can help make up for a sub par d line but it's not going to work the other way around.Bottom line just like the other posters said we are not going to win a Super Bowl until we fix the o. Line.
McGlinch was the zone's whipping boy and well deserved. He was bad until his contract year. No way would you extend a guy like that
injuries sabotaged our OL in camp and continues to do so. Making it harder for everyone.
as for draft, picking OL high and consecutively isn't a safe recipe as you can be left with bust OL and no skill players. There have been times where you can get lucky with OL slipping down the draft board but that isn't consistent enough to make anyone feel that it's a lock.
and you can't say his offenses go no where when they have taken us to the highest you can go without having a number 1 OL.
I'm not saying we don't need to upgrade, we certainly do. And now is a time we can, as we have a lot of core pieces still in place.
and we didn't lose the SB due to our OL
Not true at all
Dec 23, 2024 at 5:52 AM
- NYniner85
- Veteran
- Posts: 112,586
Originally posted by Patton:
Trent will not be back. I hope Lynch is smart enough to understand that the only positions he needs to draft and sign, are OL and DL
Trent has $60M reasons as to why he will be back next yr.
they aren't playing Trent if they're not competitive. He's not 25 yrs old and trying to get another deal.
Dec 23, 2024 at 5:54 AM
- NYniner85
- Veteran
- Posts: 112,586
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Defense wins championships
and we didn't lose the SB due to our OL
We lost because of multiple things….one being the OL.
they gotta upgrade the trenches on both sides this off season.
Dec 23, 2024 at 5:56 AM
- Schulzy
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,286
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
Trent will not be back. I hope Lynch is smart enough to understand that the only positions he needs to draft and sign, are OL and DL
Trent has $60M reasons as to why he will be back next yr.
they aren't playing Trent if they're not competitive. He's not 25 yrs old and trying to get another deal.
When he was looking for a new deal last offseason at his age, they should have told him to report to camp. But John and Kyle want to be buddy buddy with the players.
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:27 PM
- 9erson3
- Veteran
- Posts: 6,145
I know I bring this up every week or so but what is exactly his injury? Now he's going IR. It's the most non talked about injury I recall in a long time. Did he tear something? Break something? I just hear ankle issue.
It still feels like he has tossed in the towel and retirement is imminent.
It still feels like he has tossed in the towel and retirement is imminent.
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:29 PM
- 9erson3
- Veteran
- Posts: 6,145
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
Trent will not be back. I hope Lynch is smart enough to understand that the only positions he needs to draft and sign, are OL and DL
Trent has $60M reasons as to why he will be back next yr.
they aren't playing Trent if they're not competitive. He's not 25 yrs old and trying to get another deal.
I don't buy it. And on the flip they have $60m they are about to feed to QB. So he should be protecting. The entire thing reeks.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Dec 26, 2024 at 3:29 PM ]
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:30 PM
- Cisco0623
- Veteran
- Posts: 13,269
Originally posted by 9erson3:
I know I bring this up every week or so but what is exactly his injury? Now he's going IR. It's the most non talked about injury I recall in a long time. Did he tear something? Break something? I just hear ankle issue.
It still feels like he has tossed in the towel and retirement is imminent.
Could be. But imo the season is lost. He went through personal hell. This is a very very chill move by the 49ers to just ir him. Let him get paid, But also just decompress.
He could retire but you better believe he's grateful for this action. My guess is he comes back rejuvenated next season for one more go and I bet you he tells them otherwise before the draft this time if that's the case. They really have always done him right.
[ Edited by Cisco0623 on Dec 26, 2024 at 3:31 PM ]
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:33 PM
- TheWooLick
- Veteran
- Posts: 42,446
Originally posted by NYniner85:Trent has $60M reasons as to why he will be back next yr.
they aren't playing Trent if they're not competitive. He's not 25 yrs old and trying to get another deal.
He got his deal and then contributed next to nothing.
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:36 PM
- TheWooLick
- Veteran
- Posts: 42,446
Originally posted by Cisco0623:Could be. But imo the season is lost. He went through personal hell. This is a very very chill move by the 49ers to just ir him. Let him get paid, But also just decompress.
He could retire but you better believe he's grateful for this action. My guess is he comes back rejuvenated next season for one more go and I bet you he tells them otherwise before the draft this time if that's the case. They really have always done him right.
He was so s**tty when he did play this year. Especially early when he was taking himself out for oxygen.
I feel for what he went through but the fact he sat out then didn't show up makes me wish they would have just let him sit.
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:40 PM
- Cisco0623
- Veteran
- Posts: 13,269
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Could be. But imo the season is lost. He went through personal hell. This is a very very chill move by the 49ers to just ir him. Let him get paid, But also just decompress.
He could retire but you better believe he's grateful for this action. My guess is he comes back rejuvenated next season for one more go and I bet you he tells them otherwise before the draft this time if that's the case. They really have always done him right.
He was so s**tty when he did play this year. Especially early when he was taking himself out for oxygen.
I feel for what he went through but the fact he sat out then didn't show up makes me wish they would have just let him sit.
I hear you and he knows he handled that wrong imo. But that's who he is. The 49ers have held their heads high when it comes to him. If he's healthy and wants to I think he'll play fine next season. That being said I'm still taking a tackle rd1.
Dec 26, 2024 at 3:53 PM
- TheWooLick
- Veteran
- Posts: 42,446
Originally posted by Cisco0623:I hear you and he knows he handled that wrong imo. But that's who he is. The 49ers have held their heads high when it comes to him. If he's healthy and wants to I think he'll play fine next season. That being said I'm still taking a tackle rd1.
Why do you think he felt he ha died it wrong and what difference does it make?
I don't see him putting in the work going forward. He got his last big payday.
Hope I am wrong and I have nothing but love for his family.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Dec 26, 2024 at 3:54 PM ]