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Originally posted by AB81Rules:I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
Nice post AB. Thanks, and i couldn't have said it better.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:Originally posted by 9moon:... and you have my respect !!
BUT not liking the trade was actually different than the ones who were spittin at the idea BEFORE the trade happened..
I honestly wanted Trent because Staley has been done for the last 3 years and I kept repeating that.. I also hope that we resign Trent for another 3 years.
I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Williams is definitely an upgrade over Staley.
Originally posted by JimmyWhy:Originally posted by AB81Rules:Originally posted by 9moon:... and you have my respect !!
BUT not liking the trade was actually different than the ones who were spittin at the idea BEFORE the trade happened..
I honestly wanted Trent because Staley has been done for the last 3 years and I kept repeating that.. I also hope that we resign Trent for another 3 years.
I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
I think Washington could have figured out that Staley was retiring just from the fact that we were trying to trade for Williams in the first place. What tanked Williams trade value was that everyone knew that they had no choice but to trade him since he refused to play there and also that he hadn't played in a season.
Originally posted by NCommand:Exactly. No question TW not only forced a trade but forced a trade to us, specifically, hence why we got him so cheap.
Mad balls by Lynch for not taking a T with the first pick knowing the TW trade wasn't fully consummated yet. Crazy risky IMHO.
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by JimmyWhy:Originally posted by AB81Rules:Originally posted by 9moon:... and you have my respect !!
BUT not liking the trade was actually different than the ones who were spittin at the idea BEFORE the trade happened..
I honestly wanted Trent because Staley has been done for the last 3 years and I kept repeating that.. I also hope that we resign Trent for another 3 years.
I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
I think Washington could have figured out that Staley was retiring just from the fact that we were trying to trade for Williams in the first place. What tanked Williams trade value was that everyone knew that they had no choice but to trade him since he refused to play there and also that he hadn't played in a season.
Exactly. No question TW not only forced a trade but forced a trade to us, specifically, hence why we got him so cheap.
Mad balls by Lynch for not taking a T with the first pick knowing the TW trade wasn't fully consummated yet. Crazy risky IMHO.
Originally posted by tankle104:Williams is a better talent than Joe, but joe was so important to the locker room and culture - I hope Williams can help replace some of that as well
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by JimmyWhy:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 9moon:
... and you have my respect !!
BUT not liking the trade was actually different than the ones who were spittin at the idea BEFORE the trade happened..
I honestly wanted Trent because Staley has been done for the last 3 years and I kept repeating that.. I also hope that we resign Trent for another 3 years.
I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
I think Washington could have figured out that Staley was retiring just from the fact that we were trying to trade for Williams in the first place. What tanked Williams trade value was that everyone knew that they had no choice but to trade him since he refused to play there and also that he hadn't played in a season.
Exactly. No question TW not only forced a trade but forced a trade to us, specifically, hence why we got him so cheap.
Mad balls by Lynch for not taking a T with the first pick knowing the TW trade wasn't fully consummated yet. Crazy risky IMHO.
Originally posted by walker807:Originally posted by tankle104:Williams is a better talent than Joe, but joe was so important to the locker room and culture - I hope Williams can help replace some of that as well
I think when both were 100% healthy Joe was just a hair worse. Staley's run blocking was elite when he was healthy. One of the big differences IMO is that Joe was more inclined to play through injuries so there's more 'bad tape' of Joe if that makes sense. Not a knock on Trent since he was playing for a toxic organization.
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly didn't think it was happening, cause everything Lynch threw out there that Staley hadn't told them he was retiring, but he was masterful with the talk, we got Trent for peanuts, Washington, and the NFL didn't know Staley was retiring. I wanted Williams only if Staley was retiring. I loved Staley, but glad we have Trent, he's younger, and yes better than Staley, but will miss Joe big time.
Nice post AB. Thanks, and i couldn't have said it better.
STALEY should have retired 3 years ago.. I've always felt that way.. and it would be a DUMB REASON if Lynch says that the only reason why they traded for Trent was because Staley decided to retire...
there is no way Lynch can stand and man up and say that he would have NEVER traded for Trent if Staley decided to play for another year..
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
It doesn't matter what you or any other fans wants/thinks, Staley played and played damn well. If Staley hadn't retired, we probably don't trade for Trent, cause no way is Staley sitting, or McGlinchey. And Trent wasn't gonna play Guard.