Niners draft Colton McKivitz | OT West Virginia

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Much ado about nothing.

Unless he ends up starting at RT. And that is a very real option under this regime.

I won't be surprised when him and Burford are starting

This regime has zero idea how to evaluate o line talent. Truely remarkable how terrible they are at it

This.

ShanaLynch can't draft good Olinemen to save their lives.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Much ado about nothing.

Unless he ends up starting at RT. And that is a very real option under this regime.

I won't be surprised when him and Burford are starting

If that happens the season is lost and the superbowl window slams shut.

So in 2019 they rolled out Mike Person and Brunskill. Both guys were trash. Brunskill developed into being serviceable but is now gone. Now we have Burford and Feliciano. Burford is trash and Feliciano is just serviceable. Stuck in the same exact spot 5 years later. History can't repeat it self here. They must improve the right side and center.

This. Great post sspike. But you're missing the end results after 7 full off seasons.

Williams is legit but he simply replaced Staley. You're not adding Williams TO Staley. We've gone from the standards of Richburg to Mack to Brendel. We've gone from Person to Compton to Feliciano/Burford? McGlinchey to McKivitz? Tomlinson to Banks (on his final year)?

You're completely missing the point and are living in the past.

This team has actually regressed or stayed the same in the OL in every position since 2019. 7 years!!!

Obviously you started to "get it" from 2023 on but the pattern remains exactly the same.

Meanwhile, they've spent every resource under the sun for the DL. A position that doesn't win Superbowls anymore.

In the end, I hope your theory is accurate in that they're finally going to treat the OL like the DL when it comes to team building. Call me skeptical. Obviously.

But if they do, it'll make all the difference in the world!

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Good post. This has been explained to him before though, facts don't matter however.

LOL. You're blind a/f. Like Hoov and the other small remaining fools. All 3 of you.

"HEy gUIs, OUR OL wAS gOOd EnOUGH BuT LEt'S draFT thE BEst Ol noW ANd GeT TYrOn SMitH In Fa!"

Originally posted by lamontb:
So in 2019 they rolled out Mike Person and Brunskill. Both guys were trash. Brunskill developed into being serviceable but is now gone. Now we have Burford and Feliciano. Burford is trash and Feliciano is just serviceable. Stuck in the same exact spot 5 years later. History can't repeat it self here. They must improve the right side and center.

Exactly. Anyone with half a brain knows you're not winning Superbowls with dudes like Garland, Person, Brunskill, Compton, Brendel, Tomlinson, Burford, Feliciano and McKivitz starting/playing in Superbowls.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. Anyone with half a brain knows you're not winning Superbowls with dudes like Garland, Person, Brunskill, Compton, Brendel, Tomlinson, Burford, Feliciano and McKivitz starting/playing in Superbowls.

Your betting history shows no one knows less about what it takes to win a SB then you

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Good post. This has been explained to him before though, facts don't matter however.

LOL. You're blind a/f. Like Hoov and the other small remaining fools. All 3 of you.

"HEy gUIs, OUR OL wAS gOOd EnOUGH BuT LEt'S draFT thE BEst Ol noW ANd GeT TYrOn SMitH In Fa!"

You've fought with at least 30 ppl regarding this. Idk if you just get too wasted and forget, but it's a long ass line of people who've called you out.

Ya of course we need to upgrade the OL. What you want to upgrade? QB? DL? LBs? WRs? TEs? OL played alright all year, didn't you move them to TIER 2 at one point lol? Didn't you also say Chiefs or uS can't win it all bc of the OL? 😂

RT was a weak spot, did anyone ever argue against this? You just live in your little fantasy world where if you don't have 5 all pros on the OL and don't spend 1st round picks on OL every year then you can't win.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:
So in 2019 they rolled out Mike Person and Brunskill. Both guys were trash. Brunskill developed into being serviceable but is now gone. Now we have Burford and Feliciano. Burford is trash and Feliciano is just serviceable. Stuck in the same exact spot 5 years later. History can't repeat it self here. They must improve the right side and center.

Exactly. Anyone with half a brain knows you're not winning Superbowls with dudes like Garland, Person, Brunskill, Compton, Brendel, Tomlinson, Burford, Feliciano and McKivitz starting/playing in Superbowls.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. Anyone with half a brain knows you're not winning Superbowls with dudes like Garland, Person, Brunskill, Compton, Brendel, Tomlinson, Burford, Feliciano and McKivitz starting/playing in Superbowls.

Your betting history shows no one knows less about what it takes to win a SB then you

Guy is so supremely arrogant for a guy tho clearly knows squat about football. Its pretty impressive

Originally posted by BigBug415:
McKivitz isn't the problem. Brendel is.
I sure hope we draft a Center.

I guess close to 60 pressures and 9 sacks given up (Some other sites say 12 sacks given up) Is not the problem? Please

I think a lot of you are forgetting that our line played a lot worse than the stats indicate. Brock escaped too many sacks to count. Maybe you all should consider that before saying our line played pretty good. Pass blocking has been horrible for almost a decade I hope we address this in free agency and the draft as our number one priority

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by BigBug415:
McKivitz isn't the problem. Brendel is.
I sure hope we draft a Center.

I guess close to 60 pressures and 9 sacks given up (Some other sites say 12 sacks given up) Is not the problem? Please

I mean their both not good but yeah Mckivitz is more not good lol

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Good post. This has been explained to him before though, facts don't matter however.

LOL. You're blind a/f. Like Hoov and the other small remaining fools. All 3 of you.

"HEy gUIs, OUR OL wAS gOOd EnOUGH BuT LEt'S draFT thE BEst Ol noW ANd GeT TYrOn SMitH In Fa!"

You've fought with at least 30 ppl regarding this. Idk if you just get too wasted and forget, but it's a long ass line of people who've called you out.

Ya of course we need to upgrade the OL. What you want to upgrade? QB? DL? LBs? WRs? TEs? OL played alright all year, didn't you move them to TIER 2 at one point lol? Didn't you also say Chiefs or uS can't win it all bc of the OL? 😂

RT was a weak spot, did anyone ever argue against this? You just live in your little fantasy world where if you don't have 5 all pros on the OL and don't spend 1st round picks on OL every year then you can't win.

Called me out for being 100% accurate on this topic in the end...for YEARS.

🤡

Imagine still trying to convince others the OL was good enough.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by BigBug415:
McKivitz isn't the problem. Brendel is.
I sure hope we draft a Center.

I guess close to 60 pressures and 9 sacks given up (Some other sites say 12 sacks given up) Is not the problem? Please

I think a lot of you are forgetting that our line played a lot worse than the stats indicate. Brock escaped too many sacks to count. Maybe you all should consider that before saying our line played pretty good. Pass blocking has been horrible for almost a decade I hope we address this in free agency and the draft as our number one priority

Bingo. Don't let the 3-4 remaining 🤡's try to spin reality anymore. We all know what needs to take place this off season (like every one before this past year).

It's time to prioritize the OL. And let Brock flourish.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by BigBug415:
McKivitz isn't the problem. Brendel is.
I sure hope we draft a Center.

I guess close to 60 pressures and 9 sacks given up (Some other sites say 12 sacks given up) Is not the problem? Please

I mean their both not good but yeah Mckivitz is more not good lol

Haha. True.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Good post. This has been explained to him before though, facts don't matter however.

LOL. You're blind a/f. Like Hoov and the other small remaining fools. All 3 of you.

"HEy gUIs, OUR OL wAS gOOd EnOUGH BuT LEt'S draFT thE BEst Ol noW ANd GeT TYrOn SMitH In Fa!"

You've fought with at least 30 ppl regarding this. Idk if you just get too wasted and forget, but it's a long ass line of people who've called you out.

Ya of course we need to upgrade the OL. What you want to upgrade? QB? DL? LBs? WRs? TEs? OL played alright all year, didn't you move them to TIER 2 at one point lol? Didn't you also say Chiefs or uS can't win it all bc of the OL? 😂

RT was a weak spot, did anyone ever argue against this? You just live in your little fantasy world where if you don't have 5 all pros on the OL and don't spend 1st round picks on OL every year then you can't win.

Called me out for being 100% accurate on this topic in the end...for YEARS.

🤡

Imagine still trying to convince others the OL was good enough.

We had one of the best offense production in the history of this team. We were a couple plays away from winning the SB. How the f**k do you accomplish that with a terrible OL?

Clown is correct.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Much ado about nothing.

Unless he ends up starting at RT. And that is a very real option under this regime.

I won't be surprised when him and Burford are starting

If that happens the season is lost and the superbowl window slams shut.

So in 2019 they rolled out Mike Person and Brunskill. Both guys were trash. Brunskill developed into being serviceable but is now gone. Now we have Burford and Feliciano. Burford is trash and Feliciano is just serviceable. Stuck in the same exact spot 5 years later. History can't repeat it self here. They must improve the right side and center.

This. Great post sspike. But you're missing the end results after 7 full off seasons.

Williams is legit but he simply replaced Staley. You're not adding Williams TO Staley. We've gone from the standards of Richburg to Mack to Brendel. We've gone from Person to Compton to Feliciano/Burford? McGlinchey to McKivitz? Tomlinson to Banks (on his final year)?

You're completely missing the point and are living in the past.

This team has actually regressed or stayed the same in the OL in every position since 2019. 7 years!!!

Obviously you started to "get it" from 2023 on but the pattern remains exactly the same.

Meanwhile, they've spent every resource under the sun for the DL. A position that doesn't win Superbowls anymore.

In the end, I hope your theory is accurate in that they're finally going to treat the OL like the DL when it comes to team building. Call me skeptical. Obviously.

But if they do, it'll make all the difference in the world!

Williams > Staley. Banks >Tomlinson. Brendel < Mack and Richburg. Burford < Brunskill/Person. McKivitz < McGlinchey.

Definitely a net negative. They have tried, particularly at center and have been snakebitten with Richburg and Mack. I think what they have done on the right side is try and fail. They have used picks (Moore, Burford, Zakelj, McKivitz), but out of the four, we can't say any of them are actually decent. Although high picks haven't been invested in OL often, we have seen teams with good O lines get production out of late picks. I said in an earlier post what we do on O line is anti competitive. Those guys are given jobs with no threat of competition.

I disagree about DL winning Super Bowls. You need both :). DL (our opponents)has showed up big in every one of our playoff losses. Had we won the Super Bowl, lots of credit would've been given to the D line for how they were murdering the Chiefs for 3 quarters (sounds familiar). The offense failed to score enough when they had the Chiefs down (also familiar) .

We have some elite QB play. We just need average, freaking average pass and run blocking. Take a guy like Zach Frazier and he starts day 1 at RG. Can move over to center in 2025 or 2026. Get a tackle in the 2nd or 3rd to compete at RT. Have some real competition on that OL and everyone's lives will be easier.