53-Man Roster & Depth Chart(2020)

It's pretty amusing how many of these roster projections have UDFA's taking the place of established players on the final 53. I highly doubt that Bourne and Taylor are going anywhere. Hasty has to beat out Wilson to even have a shot. Acy has to beat out Witherspoon, Harris, or Reed. Finke has to beat out, James, or Pettis, or Jennings, who also has to beat put Pettis and James. All of these expectations for guys I am betting that most of the people posting in this forum have never seen play. I know that the Niner's have had more success with UDFA's than almost any other team in the league but Lynch has already gone on record as saying one of the reasons he didn't mind not having many picks this year was because he and Kyle liked the team they had and that anyone picked up in the later rounds was going to have a hard time making the cut so he was content with picking up a few guys that they thought could be difference makers but somehow, all of these UDFA's are gong to make it. Honestly, I am surprised that no one has listed Broc Rutter as the starting QB yet.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

It's pretty amusing how many of these roster projections have UDFA's taking the place of established players on the final 53. I highly doubt that Bourne and Taylor are going anywhere. Hasty has to beat out Wilson to even have a shot. Acy has to beat out Witherspoon, Harris, or Reed. Finke has to beat out, James, or Pettis, or Jennings, who also has to beat put Pettis and James. All of these expectations for guys I am betting that most of the people posting in this forum have never seen play. I know that the Niner's have had more success with UDFA's than almost any other team in the league but Lynch has already gone on record as saying one of the reasons he didn't mind not having many picks this year was because he and Kyle liked the team they had and that anyone picked up in the later rounds was going to have a hard time making the cut so he was content with picking up a few guys that they thought could be difference makers but somehow, all of these UDFA's are gong to make it. Honestly, I am surprised that no one has listed Broc Rutter as the starting QB yet.

Fans like betting on the unknown when it comes to players because they've seen the flaws in the guys already on the roster. It's always been that way in sports. Most of these players won't even be in the league this season or ever. This roster is very deep and I doubt any of the UDFA's make the 53. Hopefully a couple can put up a fight to make the PS.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

You're missing McGlinchey bud.

Do you ever miss anything? LOL

BTW, I might be missing 1 on my 90. Ya know, in case you have the time.

Lol, nope.

Jared Mayden is missing on your roster.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
It's pretty amusing how many of these roster projections have UDFA's taking the place of established players on the final 53. I highly doubt that Bourne and Taylor are going anywhere. Hasty has to beat out Wilson to even have a shot. Acy has to beat out Witherspoon, Harris, or Reed. Finke has to beat out, James, or Pettis, or Jennings, who also has to beat put Pettis and James. All of these expectations for guys I am betting that most of the people posting in this forum have never seen play. I know that the Niner's have had more success with UDFA's than almost any other team in the league but Lynch has already gone on record as saying one of the reasons he didn't mind not having many picks this year was because he and Kyle liked the team they had and that anyone picked up in the later rounds was going to have a hard time making the cut so he was content with picking up a few guys that they thought could be difference makers but somehow, all of these UDFA's are gong to make it. Honestly, I am surprised that no one has listed Broc Rutter as the starting QB yet.

That's hardly a given considering how much time Taylor has missed with injuries.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

53-Man Roster Projection:

1. QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)
2. QB 4 Nick Mullens(2020)
3. RB 26 Tevin Coleman(2020)
4. RB 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)
5. RB 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2020)
6. RB 28 Jerick McKinnon(2020)
7. FB 44 Kyle Juszyczk(2020)
8. WR 11 Brandon Ayiuk(2023)
9. WR 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)
10. WR 84 Kendrick Bourne(2020)
11. WR 15 Trent Taylor(2020)
12. WR 18 Dante Pettis(2021)
13. WR 19 Jauan Jennings(2023)
14. WR/TE 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)
15. TE 85 George Kittle(2020)
16. TE 82 Ross Dwelley(2020)
17. TE 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)
18. C 58 Weston Richburg(2022)
19. C 63 Ben Garland(2020)
20. LG 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)
21. RG 60 Daniel Brunskill(2020)
22. RG/LT 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)
23. LT 71 Trent Williams(2020)
24. LT/RT 78 Shon Coleman(2020)
25. RT 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)
26. DE 91 Arik Armstead(2024)
27. DE 97 Nick Bosa(2022)
28. DE 55 Dee Ford(2023)
29. DE 98 Ronald Blair III(2020)
30. DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2020)
31. DT 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)
32. DT 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)
33. DT 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
34. DT 90 Kevin Givens(2020)
35. NT 93 D.J. Jones(2020)
36. SAM 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)
37. SAM 53 Mark Nzeocha(2021)
38. MIKE 54 Fred Warner(2021)
39. WILL 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)
40. WILL 59 Joe Walker(2020)
41. CB 25 Richard Sherman(2020)
42. CB 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2020)
43. CB 24 K'Waun Williams(2020)
44. CB 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)
45. CB 32 D.J. Reed Jr.(2021)
46. CB 49 DeMarkus Acy(2022)
47. FS 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)
48. FS 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
49. SS 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2020)
50. SS 43 Jared Mayden(2022)
51. PK 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
52. P 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
53. LS 86 Kyle Nelson(2022)

Practice Squad:

1. QB 5 Broc Rutter
2. RB 38 JaMycal Hasty
3. RB --- Salvon Ahmed
4. FB 49 Josh Hokit
5. WR 7 Chris Finke
6. TE 83 Chase Harrell
7. OG 76 Ross Reynolds
8. OT 67 Justin Skule
9. DT 65 Darrion Daniels
10. SAM 47 Jonas Griffith
11. MIKE 51 Azeez Al-Shaair
12. CB 35 Tim Harris Jr.

Injured Lists:

PUP: DT 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)

Inactives:

1. RB Wilson or McKinnon
2. WR Jennings
3. OG McKivitz
4. DT Givens or Street
5. CB Acy

As for adding 2 from the PSquad to make 55, I don't know how it works, wish I did, not sure anyone does right now.

I absolutely could see this one.

OTC covered it on page 1 and it's still pretty confusing. And silly.

Does anybody know how years the RBs are under contract? I know Wilson is going to be on a 1 yr tender, but what about Mostert, Colman, and McKinnon?

Originally posted by DarkShinobiX:

Does anybody know how years the RBs are under contract? I know Wilson is going to be on a 1 yr tender, but what about Mostert, Colman, and McKinnon?

Wilson, Coleman, and Mostert are all on 1 yr deals and McKinnon is essentially on a one year deal

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

53-Man Roster Projection:

1. QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)
2. QB 4 Nick Mullens(2020)
3. RB 26 Tevin Coleman(2020)
4. RB 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)
5. RB 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2020)
6. RB 28 Jerick McKinnon(2020)
7. FB 44 Kyle Juszyczk(2020)
8. WR 11 Brandon Ayiuk(2023)
9. WR 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)
10. WR 84 Kendrick Bourne(2020)
11. WR 15 Trent Taylor(2020)
12. WR 18 Dante Pettis(2021)
13. WR 19 Jauan Jennings(2023)
14. WR/TE 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)
15. TE 85 George Kittle(2020)
16. TE 82 Ross Dwelley(2020)
17. TE 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)
18. C 58 Weston Richburg(2022)
19. C 63 Ben Garland(2020)
20. LG 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)
21. RG 60 Daniel Brunskill(2020)
22. RG/LT 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)
23. LT 71 Trent Williams(2020)
24. LT/RT 78 Shon Coleman(2020)
25. RT 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)
26. DE 91 Arik Armstead(2024)
27. DE 97 Nick Bosa(2022)
28. DE 55 Dee Ford(2023)
29. DE 98 Ronald Blair III(2020)
30. DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2020)
31. DT 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)
32. DT 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)
33. DT 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
34. DT 90 Kevin Givens(2020)
35. NT 93 D.J. Jones(2020)
36. SAM 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)
37. SAM 53 Mark Nzeocha(2021)
38. MIKE 54 Fred Warner(2021)
39. WILL 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)
40. WILL 59 Joe Walker(2020)
41. CB 25 Richard Sherman(2020)
42. CB 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2020)
43. CB 24 K'Waun Williams(2020)
44. CB 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)
45. CB 32 D.J. Reed Jr.(2021)
46. CB 49 DeMarkus Acy(2022)
47. FS 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)
48. FS 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
49. SS 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2020)
50. SS 43 Jared Mayden(2022)
51. PK 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
52. P 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
53. LS 86 Kyle Nelson(2022)

Practice Squad:

1. QB 5 Broc Rutter
2. RB 38 JaMycal Hasty
3. RB --- Salvon Ahmed
4. FB 49 Josh Hokit
5. WR 7 Chris Finke
6. TE 83 Chase Harrell
7. OG 76 Ross Reynolds
8. OT 67 Justin Skule
9. DT 65 Darrion Daniels
10. SAM 47 Jonas Griffith
11. MIKE 51 Azeez Al-Shaair
12. CB 35 Tim Harris Jr.

Injured Lists:

PUP: DT 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)

Inactives:

1. RB Wilson or McKinnon
2. WR Jennings
3. OG McKivitz
4. DT Givens or Street
5. CB Acy

As for adding 2 from the PSquad to make 55, I don't know how it works, wish I did, not sure anyone does right now.

I absolutely could see this one.

OTC covered it on page 1 and it's still pretty confusing. And silly.

My question is: Do you only need to have 5 inactive regardless of whether you bring up a PS player or not? And if you elevate a PS player, do they have to be active? There would obviously be no need to elevate anyone unless you didn't have a reserve player among your 48 actives who could play. However, what if you had a reserve among your five typical inactives? Can you use a PS player to be the fifth inactive instead of being a replacement?

Am I overthinking it?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

My question is: Do you only need to have 5 inactive regardless of whether you bring up a PS player or not? And if you elevate a PS player, do they have to be active? There would obviously be no need to elevate anyone unless you didn't have a reserve player among your 48 actives who could play. However, what if you had a reserve among your five typical inactives? Can you use a PS player to be the fifth inactive instead of being a replacement?

Am I overthinking it?

Not at all. It's confusing af

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

My question is: Do you only need to have 5 inactive regardless of whether you bring up a PS player or not? And if you elevate a PS player, do they have to be active? There would obviously be no need to elevate anyone unless you didn't have a reserve player among your 48 actives who could play. However, what if you had a reserve among your five typical inactives? Can you use a PS player to be the fifth inactive instead of being a replacement?

Am I overthinking it?

Not at all. It's confusing af

Someone definitely needs to bug the beat writers for info on this one.

Originally posted by Midbay:

I'll take a quick stab at the logic behind the change...

A big motivation it seems is the ability to bring a guy up from the practice squad on a temporary basis, but not have to release him and send him through waivers and hope you can resign him to your practice squad.

As an example of the implications and strategy: When Juice went down last year, we could have made Daniel Helm active, but still a practice squad member, so as to have a proper fullback. Even if he played and did an alright job, the chance of him being picked up by another team would have still been small as that team would have to have needed a fullback (not many do) and would have to have signed him to their 53 to get Helm off the practice squad.

Another example that has been touched on: Beathard last year was basically the emergency option at QB. We kept him just in case the starter (Jimmy) got hurt so we would have a backup the next week who can at least run the offense a little. If Rutter looks alright this year, you can keep him around and make him the emergency QB if needed on game day so his usage in that way wouldn't be any different than the way we used Beathard last year. He probably won't play because he will be the backup, and even if he plays a little it is unlikely that another team would pick him up. Again, the other team would have to sign him to their 53.

If any P.S. player looks good in a game, it works out well for them because now they have teams competing to sign them off the practice squad.

Interestingly, it looks like backup QBs could be the most impacted group here. If teams are less likely to keep 3 QBs on their 53 because they can elevate a P.S. guy as an emergency option, it doesn't leave a lot of demand for players like Beathard on the 53 man rosters. It really creates a problem for those "veteran" backup QBs who aren't eligible for the practice squad (3rd string QBs have different P.S. eligibility rules as I just learned). I think Beathard is eligible for the P.S. and if that is true, we might actually see him there due to decreased demand for 3rd string QBs on the 53!

I probably missed something important here, but the strategic implications are certainly going to be interesting!

I think your explanation of the impact makes more sense. I think it will impact how the reserves play out.

For example, a typical roster has
Quarterback (2). 2 GD
Running back (4). 4 GD
Offensive Line (9). 7 GD
Wide Receivers (6). 5 GD
Tight ends (3). 3 GD

Defensive Lineman (9). 8 GD
Linebackers (7). 7 LB
Defensive Back (10). 7 DB

Punter
Kicker
Long Snapper

Given the ability to pull people up you might store some of these players on the practice squad instead of being on the roster.

I don't think you're getting Skule on the PS. Maybe it wasn't all pro level play but when he wasn't hurt he played well enough as a starter vs some pretty talented rushers that someone would definitely scoop him up.

Considering he's on a rookie deal for another 3 years I'd keep him over Coleman for sure.

Originally posted by genus49:

I don't think you're getting Skule on the PS. Maybe it wasn't all pro level play but when he wasn't hurt he played well enough as a starter vs some pretty talented rushers that someone would definitely scoop him up.

Considering he's on a rookie deal for another 3 years I'd keep him over Coleman for sure.

I agree on all fronts. The rookie would have to be substantially better, which seems unlikely.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
53-Man Roster Projection:

1. QB 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)
2. QB 4 Nick Mullens(2020)
3. RB 26 Tevin Coleman(2020)
4. RB 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)
5. RB 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2020)
6. RB 28 Jerick McKinnon(2020)
7. FB 44 Kyle Juszyczk(2020)
8. WR 11 Brandon Ayiuk(2023)
9. WR 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)
10. WR 84 Kendrick Bourne(2020)
11. WR 15 Trent Taylor(2020)
12. WR 18 Dante Pettis(2021)
13. WR 19 Jauan Jennings(2023)
14. WR/TE 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)
15. TE 85 George Kittle(2020)
16. TE 82 Ross Dwelley(2020)
17. TE 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)
18. C 58 Weston Richburg(2022)
19. C 63 Ben Garland(2020)
20. LG 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)
21. RG 60 Daniel Brunskill(2020)
22. RG/LT 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)
23. LT 71 Trent Williams(2020)
24. LT/RT 78 Shon Coleman(2020)
25. RT 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)
26. DE 91 Arik Armstead(2024)
27. DE 97 Nick Bosa(2022)
28. DE 55 Dee Ford(2023)
29. DE 98 Ronald Blair III(2020)
30. DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2020)
31. DT 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)
32. DT 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)
33. DT 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
34. DT 90 Kevin Givens(2020)
35. NT 93 D.J. Jones(2020)
36. SAM 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)
37. SAM 53 Mark Nzeocha(2021)
38. MIKE 54 Fred Warner(2021)
39. WILL 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)
40. WILL 59 Joe Walker(2020)
41. CB 25 Richard Sherman(2020)
42. CB 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2020)
43. CB 24 K'Waun Williams(2020)
44. CB 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)
45. CB 32 D.J. Reed Jr.(2021)
46. CB 49 DeMarkus Acy(2022)
47. FS 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)
48. FS 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
49. SS 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2020)
50. SS 43 Jared Mayden(2022)
51. PK 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
52. P 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
53. LS 86 Kyle Nelson(2022)

Practice Squad:

1. QB 5 Broc Rutter
2. RB 38 JaMycal Hasty
3. RB --- Salvon Ahmed
4. FB 49 Josh Hokit
5. WR 7 Chris Finke
6. TE 83 Chase Harrell
7. OG 76 Ross Reynolds
8. OT 67 Justin Skule
9. DT 65 Darrion Daniels
10. SAM 47 Jonas Griffith
11. MIKE 51 Azeez Al-Shaair
12. CB 35 Tim Harris Jr.

Injured Lists:

PUP: DT 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)

Inactives:

1. RB Wilson or McKinnon
2. WR Jennings
3. OG McKivitz
4. DT Givens or Street
5. CB Acy

As for adding 2 from the PSquad to make 55, I don't know how it works, wish I did, not sure anyone does right now.

This is pretty close to what I had....and I'd like to say first that the Zone is so lucky to have guys like AB, OTC, and NCommand putting out such great posts...

OK...the only issues I have with this roster are (and I admit I'm being nitpicky)...

I think LB Al-Shaair makes the final roster and maybe even Jonas Griffith. I like Joe Walker too. Those guys are great athletes and will probably excel on Special Teams...I also really doubt that Al-Shaair would clear waivers to go on the PS. Also not sure Nzoecha makes the final cut. Man, with their starters, the Niners have some really good, young LBs

From what I have heard, the Niners like CB Tim Harris quite a bit and he has now had a full year in their system. Not sure Acy, although talented, takes Harris' spot on the roster. I could see Acy on the practice squad though... I'm also not sure the Niners give up on Marcell Harris either, especially in favor of an UDFA...

Justin Skule will never clear waivers....lots of good film on him on there and a lot of NFL teams have lousy OLs...

Of course, injuries will dictate a lot of moves this year as always...players that might surprise include WRs Bourne and Hurd, DLmen Thomas, Street, and Givens, P Wishnowsky, and S Moore... I think most, if not all, take their games to the next level this season.. Would love your feedback on this AB...when you get a chance...

Feels great, baby!!

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

My question is: Do you only need to have 5 inactive regardless of whether you bring up a PS player or not? And if you elevate a PS player, do they have to be active? There would obviously be no need to elevate anyone unless you didn't have a reserve player among your 48 actives who could play. However, what if you had a reserve among your five typical inactives? Can you use a PS player to be the fifth inactive instead of being a replacement?

Am I overthinking it?

Not at all. It's confusing af

Someone definitely needs to bug the beat writers for info on this one.

From the podcasts, they seem as confused as us.