Who's a better RB in SF??

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why the hate for Coleman - he's a very capable player and is still really young.

It's not hate, it's pointing out what he is as a RB. Average...he doesn't do anything very well. All his stats (and film) show a RB that is very replaceable.

I've asked people to show me these remarkable stats or amazing clips proving otherwise. Sure he can brake one loose every once in a while...That's he's skill set, speed one cut runner. It was that in Indiana and in ATL.

He's a COP back which is fine. Shouldn't make him the 15th highest RB imo.

Maybe, he's not Walter Payton, but he's a good player.

Mostert, pay him he deserves it. Take back the money from mckinn the team deserves a refund.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Maybe, he's not Walter Payton, but he's a good player.

Mayo, I'm not asking him to be Payton...I'm asking him to better than average. Every meaningful stat for a RB says he's not. There's more bad film then good film.

Hopefully he magically changes this yr

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Maybe, he's not Walter Payton, but he's a good player.

Mayo, I'm not asking him to be Payton...I'm asking him to better than average. Every meaningful stat for a RB says he's not. There's more bad film then good film.

Hopefully he magically changes this yr

I hear you.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Butter:

If they trade Mostert, can any of this years UDFA help fill the gap for outside zone running plays?

They not trading him. Probably could get a 5th rounder at best. And Mostert has 0 leverage

OK, let me restate. Can any of the rookie RBs duplicate what Mostert offers in the outside alone run plays and pass pro?

Coleman because mostert wants a trade.

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Just look at it like this Mostert is the big play guy. Coleman is the guy that can get those hard runs and consistently keep you ahead of the chains. Like i said, the runs that are not flashy but still get you solid yardage. He does get wide open lanes, you never see him having to make a juke or shake a defender. The OL blocks well and he simply runs through the hole, just has to make a cut. Its not like he has to sift through or make multiple cuts or read defenses.

Are you serious? Did you not click the links I posted that specifically show that Mostert has a much higher avg when you take out 10+ yard runs?

That 100% contradicts your evaluation of the two players. You actually have them flip flopped.

Coleman is the one that relied on the big play more that Mostert. Mostert is the one you can trust to keep you in front of the chains.

All you post is willfully ignorant conjecture.

Bring some actual evidence and I'll reply again but talking to you is like banging my head against a wall expecting it to cure my headache.

CUT Cole and McKey and give the money to Mostert !!

Originally posted by 9moon:

CUT Cole and McKey and give the money to Mostert !!

I'm sure we already have the money to pay Mostert extra, we just refuse because he already signed his contract at the beginning of last season. He can at least wait until the season is over before asking for more money imo.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Are you serious? Did you not click the links I posted that specifically show that Mostert has a much higher avg when you take out 10+ yard runs?

That 100% contradicts your evaluation of the two players. You actually have them flip flopped.

Coleman is the one that relied on the big play more that Mostert. Mostert is the one you can trust to keep you in front of the chains.

All you post is willfully ignorant conjecture.

Bring some actual evidence and I'll reply again but talking to you is like banging my head against a wall expecting it to cure my headache.

Idk how to upload pics from the phone but when Mostert on first and second down is running inside he had a 51.4 % and 29.7 % respectively.

Coleman running inside had a 57.7 % and 30.8 % respectively.

Coleman was a better inside runner while Mostert was the better outside runner. Mostert was faster than Coleman running to the outside and Coleman was stronger than Mostert running inside.

Originally posted by Butter:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Butter:

If they trade Mostert, can any of this years UDFA help fill the gap for outside zone running plays?

They not trading him. Probably could get a 5th rounder at best. And Mostert has 0 leverage

OK, let me restate. Can any of the rookie RBs duplicate what Mostert offers in the outside alone run plays and pass pro?

We have to wait and see if they can once they get the chance. I mean I wouldn't think Mostert could've did what he did until I saw him do it.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Butter:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Butter:
If they trade Mostert, can any of this years UDFA help fill the gap for outside zone running plays?

They not trading him. Probably could get a 5th rounder at best. And Mostert has 0 leverage

OK, let me restate. Can any of the rookie RBs duplicate what Mostert offers in the outside alone run plays and pass pro?

We have to wait and see if they can once they get the chance. I mean I wouldn't think Mostert could've did what he did until I saw him do it.

The combination of Coleman and McKinnon should get the job done, IMO.

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Are you serious? Did you not click the links I posted that specifically show that Mostert has a much higher avg when you take out 10+ yard runs?

That 100% contradicts your evaluation of the two players. You actually have them flip flopped.

Coleman is the one that relied on the big play more that Mostert. Mostert is the one you can trust to keep you in front of the chains.

All you post is willfully ignorant conjecture.

Bring some actual evidence and I'll reply again but talking to you is like banging my head against a wall expecting it to cure my headache.

Idk how to upload pics from the phone but when Mostert on first and second down is running inside he had a 51.4 % and 29.7 % respectively.

Coleman running inside had a 57.7 % and 30.8 % respectively.

Coleman was a better inside runner while Mostert was the better outside runner. Mostert was faster than Coleman running to the outside and Coleman was stronger than Mostert running inside.

What are those percentages? I'm guessing you mean the percentages they ran inside vs outside? That doesn't really prove one's better or worse inside.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

What are those percentages? I'm guessing you mean the percentages they ran inside vs outside? That doesn't really prove one's better or worse inside.

Maybe not but it does prove they both have their strengths

Mostert on 1st and 2nd down.

Ill just outline the table,


1st 19 51.4

2nd 11 29.7

For coleman its

1st 15 57.7

2nd 8 30.8