Who's a better RB in SF??

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
What are those percentages? I'm guessing you mean the percentages they ran inside vs outside? That doesn't really prove one's better or worse inside.

Maybe not but it does prove they both have their strengths

Mostert on 1st and 2nd down.

Ill just outline the table,

1st 19 51.4

2nd 11 29.7

For coleman its

1st 15 57.7

2nd 8 30.8

Just because Coleman ran inside more, doesn't mean it was his "strength" BOTH RBs have similar skill sets. They're BOTH better suited for an OZ running scheme. Neither are stud in between the tackle runners.

One just seems to have better vision. Is what it is.

A s**t ton of top talent at RB next yr

This discussion is pointless.

Originally posted by mayo49:
The combination of Coleman and McKinnon should get the job done, IMO.

Lol. I like your optimism

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

This discussion is pointless.

Go on...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Just because Coleman ran inside more, doesn't mean it was his "strength" BOTH RBs have similar skill sets. They're BOTH better suited for an OZ running scheme. Neither are stud in between the tackle runners.

One just seems to have better vision. Is what it is.

Coleman is definitely a better inside Runner, the fact that 49ers continued to run him inside kinda disproves your point. Alot of time they used him to guage defenses and wear defenders down. Mostert would then come in have alot of off tackle runs and end runs. Its an effective 1-2 punch, idk why you're so against it..

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

Coleman is definitely a better inside Runner, the fact that 49ers continued to run him inside kinda disproves your point. Alot of time they used him to guage defenses and wear defenders down. Mostert would then come in have alot of off tackle runs and end runs. Its an effective 1-2 punch, idk why you're so against it..

Who cares if he's "better" than Mostert (And I don't really agree he is). he isn't good at it regardless. Neither are great at it, that's my pt.

Wearing down defenders by getting the first series of a game is complete nonsense. You're acting like Coleman would play the first half of games, which simply isn't true.

I'm not against anything, this thread is very simple...who's a better RB for SF. You told me the WZ was split on it and clearly that's not true.

They BOTH are OZ runners. They have a similar skill set. In most circumstances they would have the same role...when Coleman was signed, SF didn't plan on Mostert doing what he did down the stretch, that was suppose to be Coleman. Mostert made Coleman replaceable and every single stat backs that up.

They don't have a road grader RB who can "wear a defense down" Coleman's skill set is wasted if you think that's what his role should be on this offense

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Who cares if he's "better" than Mostert (And I don't really agree he is). he isn't good at it regardless. Neither are great at it, that's my pt.

Wearing down defenders by getting the first series of a game is complete nonsense. You're acting like Coleman would play the first half of games, which simply isn't true.

I'm not against anything, this thread is very simple...who's a better RB for SF. You told me the WZ was split on it and clearly that's not true.

They BOTH are OZ runners. They have a similar skill set. In most circumstances they would have the same role...when Coleman was signed, SF didn't plan on Mostert doing what he did down the stretch, that was suppose to be Coleman. Mostert made Coleman replaceable and every single stat backs that up.

They don't have a road grader RB who can "wear a defense down" Coleman's skill set is wasted if you think that's what his role should be on this offense

And you still dont get it and missing the point. Yes he is an OZ runner but he was running just fine inside until he got banged up against Seattle looked slow for about 5 weeks, then he does it again in the playoffs. He was a good inside runner,you just focus on that stretch of games where he looked slow and unsure

How is this even a debate?

I think some people are really just mad at Mostert's contract issues and have them in the "we don't even need him" "If it wasn't for our system..." or my personal favorite "the other team underestimated his speed" mindset.

He was the best back on our team last year and its not even close. If you say otherwise please explain why?

Everyone saying Kyle can make any RB look that good, uuummmm well than why didn't Coleman, Morris, Breida or Hyde put up those numbers?

Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
How is this even a debate?

I think some people are really just mad at Mostert's contract issues and have them in the "we don't even need him" "If it wasn't for our system..." or my personal favorite "the other team underestimated his speed" mindset.

He was the best back on our team last year and its not even close. If you say otherwise please explain why?

Everyone saying Kyle can make any RB look that good, uuummmm well than why didn't Coleman, Morris, Breida or Hyde put up those numbers?

because they didn't have Jimmy G

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
How is this even a debate?

I think some people are really just mad at Mostert's contract issues and have them in the "we don't even need him" "If it wasn't for our system..." or my personal favorite "the other team underestimated his speed" mindset.

He was the best back on our team last year and its not even close. If you say otherwise please explain why?

Everyone saying Kyle can make any RB look that good, uuummmm well than why didn't Coleman, Morris, Breida or Hyde put up those numbers?

because they didn't have Jimmy G

Oh yeah, duhh. Nevermind carry on.

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

And you still dont get it and missing the point. Yes he is an OZ runner but he was running just fine inside until he got banged up against Seattle looked slow for about 5 weeks, then he does it again in the playoffs. He was a good inside runner,you just focus on that stretch of games where he looked slow and unsure

Lol no you don't get it...he was not running just fine inside. He wasn't running fine in general...

TC's "yards created above/below expected per attempt" which is a collection of data (see below)...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fantasypros.com/2020/01/best-and-worst-rbs-at-creating-yards-in-2019-fantasy-football/amp/

Was 24th overall...Mostert was 2nd in the league behind only Derrick Henry.






Again every single stat you can come up with shows Coleman was avg to below avg as a RB.

It's not the end of the world, dude just wasn't very good last yr and throughout his career he's been an avg RB

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Lol no you don't get it...he was not running just fine inside. He wasn't running fine in general...

TC's "yards created above/below expected per attempt" which is a collection of data (see below)...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fantasypros.com/2020/01/best-and-worst-rbs-at-creating-yards-in-2019-fantasy-football/amp/

Was 24th overall a ZERO...Mostert was 2nd in the league behind only Derrick Henry.

Again every single stat you can come up with shows Coleman was avg to below avg as a RB.

Lol rightt, thats all you look at is stats. Look at the first 10 weeks when he was the RB on the team by far.

Wait you really just called Coleman an avg back

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Lol no you don't get it...he was not running just fine inside. He wasn't running fine in general...

TC's "yards created above/below expected per attempt" which is a collection of data (see below)...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fantasypros.com/2020/01/best-and-worst-rbs-at-creating-yards-in-2019-fantasy-football/amp/

Was 24th overall...Mostert was 2nd in the league behind only Derrick Henry.






Again every single stat you can come up with shows Coleman was avg to below avg as a RB.

It's not the end of the world, dude just wasn't very good last yr and throughout his career he's been an avg RB

So Coleman was better than Leveon Bell, Joe Mixon, Zeke, Kamara, Melvin Gordon and some other really good RBs. That's how agents talk