Niners sign J.J. Nelson

Originally posted by NYniner85:

No thread for this little guy

Super explosive running a 4.28 with a 10 yard split of 1.5 and a broad jump of 127"

I had this dude in my off season plan for this exact Goodwin-like role (insurance for him). Glad he's here.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Doesn't have great hands and he's really small. That's probably why he only started 16 games in 5 seasons. His catch percentage is 45.7% and his average YPG is 25. For comparison, Deebo and Bourne had 70% and 63% catch percentage and they both were ripped a lot for dropping too many passes.

I think Goodwin had the same knock on him coming to the 49ers and he improved while he was with Kyle.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Speed kills, and once kyle sees him he has the 1st requisite....FAST. Then it is just can he concentrate on the ball, get open. Learn routes, etc. But sure like the idea of looking him over. 4.28? Yikes.

I think Kyle can scheme him open the way he schemed Goodwin. I think those catch percentages will go up. I mean it doesn't have to be a Ghost to the Post route, but how about a twenty yard out? With the property set up and scheme, I think JJ can eat up slow DB secondary's.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Speed kills, and once kyle sees him he has the 1st requisite....FAST. Then it is just can he concentrate on the ball, get open. Learn routes, etc. But sure like the idea of looking him over. 4.28? Yikes.

I think Kyle can scheme him open the way he schemed Goodwin. I think those catch percentages will go up. I mean it doesn't have to be a Ghost to the Post route, but how about a twenty yard out? With the property set up and scheme, I think JJ can eat up slow DB secondary's.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Speed kills, and once kyle sees him he has the 1st requisite....FAST. Then it is just can he concentrate on the ball, get open. Learn routes, etc. But sure like the idea of looking him over. 4.28? Yikes.

I think Kyle can scheme him open the way he schemed Goodwin. I think those catch percentages will go up. I mean it doesn't have to be a Ghost to the Post route, but how about a twenty yard out? With the property set up and scheme, I think JJ can eat up slow DB secondary's.

Mayo, your hour is up. Wake up.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Speed kills, and once kyle sees him he has the 1st requisite....FAST. Then it is just can he concentrate on the ball, get open. Learn routes, etc. But sure like the idea of looking him over. 4.28? Yikes.

I think Kyle can scheme him open the way he schemed Goodwin. I think those catch percentages will go up. I mean it doesn't have to be a Ghost to the Post route, but how about a twenty yard out? With the property set up and scheme, I think JJ can eat up slow DB secondary's.

Mayo, your hour is up. Wake up.

Lol, look who's talking - you have trouble sleeping, too?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Lol, look who's talking - you have trouble sleeping, too?

Not really, although my schedule allows me to work strange hours. Its good to have a fellow niner fan awake at 3 am in the morning.

Burns Seattle's secondary, with Sherman and Kam Chancellor!!!

I'm more excited for this guy than Tavon Austin. Nelson was productive when Carson Palmer was throwing the ball to him (2016/17). When Palmer got hurt midseason 2017, Nelson's production slipped (Gabbert became QB). 2018 was rookie Josh Rosen (bleh). Then he got injured early 2019 with the Raiders and got cut. If he sticks he adds a speed element that Kyle lost in Travis Benjamin.

Originally posted by thl408:
I'm more excited for this guy than Tavon Austin. Nelson was productive when Carson Palmer was throwing the ball to him (2016/17). When Palmer got hurt midseason 2017, Nelson's production slipped (Gabbert became QB). 2018 was rookie Josh Rosen (bleh). Then he got injured early 2019 with the Raiders and got cut. If he sticks he adds a speed element that Kyle lost in Travis Benjamin.

Excellent point. I'd just add that with Kyle's system and his schemes, I think both Tavon and Nelson are going to perform better than they had in the past. Both remind me a bit of Goodwin before he got here.

Originally posted by Kolohe:


Burns Seattle's secondary, with Sherman and Kam Chancellor!!!

Nelson was facing Sherm in a game that John Lynch was broadcasting.

Hmmm....

He has a terrible catch% and I kind of looked into it. He's never had a catch% over 50% in a any meaningful season - meaning when QBs target him, less than half the time he's catching it. Catch% does not take into account bad throws, it just counts how often he's targeted and how often he catches it. So if the QB throws it at Nelson's feet (or severely overthrows him), it still hurts his catch%.

I did a search on all of Nelson's career targets and there were 277 plays (NFL Gamepass). I then did a search for the word 'deep' since the play description will describe where the pass was thrown. I got back 102 instances of the word 'deep'. This includes preseason so it's not super accurate, but the point is, playing in Bruce Arians 'no risk it, no biscuit' offense that liked to throw deep, Nelson was often the deep threat target and those throws are low percentage.

Originally posted by ChicoCorrales:
any relation to willie?

Lol,,,yo' crazy ass...GOOD ONE..

Originally posted by SFrush:

Give us the breakdown on him Phoenix49er.

Great speed, bad hands. The end.