Is this a make or break year for Jimmy G?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by walker807:
You could put Jimmy on any team in the league and he would win games. All he does is win.

I like Jimmy.

I think he will be even better next year.

But this statement of yours is absolutely absurd.

I'm not so sure. He rolled out 5 wins on a team that went on to earn the number 2 overall pick without him the following year. Then he took that team to the superbowl. He is a winning QB for sure.

Originally posted by Second2Nunley:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by walker807:

You could put Jimmy on any team in the league and he would win games. All he does is win.

I like Jimmy.

I think he will be even better next year.

But this statement of yours is absolutely absurd.

I'm not so sure. He rolled out 5 wins on a team that went on to earn the number 2 overall pick without him the following year. Then he took that team to the superbowl. He is a winning QB for sure.

With no help at receiver as well as not good pass protection. That is ridiculously impressive

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I think people are under rating our receivers because we don't have one big time guy. As a group they work pretty well in Kyle's system and don't forget that he has the best tight end.

no.. we are under rating cuz with deebo and james hurt and our hot shot rookie on the shelf we have a bunch of guys with little to no varsity nfl experience. bourne is the exception. we think and hope taylor is fine but then..

I´d say Jimmy was responsible for 3 wins last year.

Arizona x2
New Orleans

10-6 whitout him I think.

The fact that Shanahan considered bringing 500-yr old Brady is noteworthy.

I love Jimmy. He´s really great throwing short-intermediate passes and if this season he can get better on deep throws he´ll be the QB we all have been waiting since Young.

I think they had 27 pass in the two playoff wins. That's 27 passes in two games. So yes he is in the hot seat if he does not progress in the offense. If he is not better in the passing game they will start to look for another QB.

If only there was a Jimmy G thread. Someone should start one.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

I´d say Jimmy was responsible for 3 wins last year.

Arizona x2
New Orleans

10-6 whitout him I think.

The fact that Shanahan considered bringing 500-yr old Brady is noteworthy.

I love Jimmy. He´s really great throwing short-intermediate passes and if this season he can get better on deep throws he´ll be the QB we all have been waiting since Young.

We don't win the Pittsburgh game without him. We don't win the Rams 2nd game without him.

Not sure we win the Seattle game either.

And they didn't really consider bringing in Brady. It's probably just another way to get Jimmy playing with a chip on his shoulder. IMO saying "hey it's Tom Brady, should we think about it?" Isn't the same as actually talking contract.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Besides Deebo none of these dudes have proven anything to be considered underrated.

People on the zone act like most teams have a stable of great wide receivers. They don't. Most teams have a main guy and a bunch support guys. If you have a guy that gets 110-120 receptions per year the other guys aren't going to have a lot of receptions. With our "terrible" receiving corps we still ranked 13th and would probably have been higher if our running game wasn't so good and had needed to pass more. Teams have enough trouble keeping one whiny big time receiver happy.

I'd much rather have a great number one receiver and a bunch of other decent ones than what you are saying. Look at teams like the Saints with Michael Thomas or the Chiefs with Tyreek hill or the Texans with Hopkins or Green Bay with Adams I can go on and on and on.

It's much better because at least you have a receiver that can make a play on third down or get touchdowns unlike our receivers. I don't know if you were OK with our receivers getting no more than five touchdowns per year but that is not good. It's actually horrible. My standards are a lot higher than that. Our poor receiving production shows in the redzone where we ALWAYS struggle and that has costs us games (and partially the Super Bowl ask Tyreek hill) not having a reliable go to target at wide receiver.

I generally agree to what you are saying. But you got some bad examples. All these teams were in the playoffs and the Chiefs just won the super and the biggest play was made by Hill. I think you can get it done both ways. Great group of wr's or one stud. As long has yo have the qb to get it done. We just don't have a proven group. If we had Deebo and Sanders then yes you can say that's a proven group. But now we have Deebo and 5/6 question marks. I'm not saying they are a bad group just unproven. We will find out shortly.

I disagree those are excellent examples. I have a whole lot of other ones. But I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. Those teams that have a great number one receiver also have other receivers that contribute. Those other contributors aren't much worse than our better receivers on our team. Certainly could be argued as good as our number two or three receivers.

In general you don't need a great number one receiver to win a Super Bowl however our receiving corps has been garbage for the last 10 years. So any of those examples I listed would've helped our team a lot more than having a rookie wr Be our best option and him only getting 3 receiving touchdowns? We absolutely needed any of those teams number one receivers last year because our second third fourth receivers were not producing much at all.

Again I think I just have a higher expected standard because I want to not struggle in the red zone like we always do because we don't have a good receiver that can get touchdowns when it matters.

In time our core will be top 10 but right now it is the reason we are held back in the passing game. Most people that watched our games saw that our receivers were having trouble getting separation and like I was saying we need a good receiver that's reliable which we did not have. When Samuel is your best receiver as a rookie you have problems. He will be very good and same with Brandon A and Trent Taylor but again that is what was holding us back.

Going forward you are right, I don't think it will be a problem

You right. I just realized I mis read what you said earlier. Those are great examples

Originally posted by genus49:
We don't win the Pittsburgh game without him. We don't win the Rams 2nd game without him.

Not sure we win the Seattle game either.

And they didn't really consider bringing in Brady. It's probably just another way to get Jimmy playing with a chip on his shoulder. IMO saying "hey it's Tom Brady, should we think about it?" Isn't the same as actually talking contract.

The Pittsburgh game we were gonna lose but the defense got a fumble.
The Seattle game was a roller coaster with offense and defense making good and bad plays in the 2nd half and at the end the defense made THE play because the offense couldn´t kill the clock.
The 2nd Rams game yeah I forgot about that so that´s 4 wins thanks to him. 9-7 whitout him.

About Brady you said "IMO" so that´s your opinion.

It's a break year

Cuz Jimmy G gonna break it off in the league's arse

He has nothing to prove. All he needs to do is avoid getting speared in the head, helmet to helmet when he is laying on the ground already tackled. If that happens again, then the opposing team should be disqualified. It'll never happen but i am afraid of some schlub trying to head spear him again because last yr they concussed him and he wasn't the same afterwards.

I hope he does't give any team ability to head Spear him again . That would be all he needs to do different. Other than that. He is ready.

"jimmy needs to improve on his deep passing or he should be gone."

Who's jimmy had @ receiver consistently since he's got here?
Or at the O-live?

Tough to get better when it's a revolving door since you've showed up.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
He has nothing to prove. All he needs to do is avoid getting speared in the head, helmet to helmet when he is laying on the ground already tackled. If that happens again, then the opposing team should be disqualified. It'll never happen but i am afraid of some schlub trying to head spear him again because last yr they concussed him and he wasn't the same afterwards.

I hope he does't give any team ability to head Spear him again . That would be all he needs to do different. Other than that. He is ready.

I disagree with this because lots of people use the "this is his first season as a full starter playing all games and led the 49ers to the superbowl" reasoning as why hes so great etc, but its a double edge sword because its his first season and who knows what happens this season... what if he reinjures that knee or gets a concussion that takes him out lots of games. To me he still has to prove that he can be relied on because basically this was his full fully healthy season. Also he had opportunities to cement himself as one of the greats this past season already, but the opportunity slipped. Those don't come very often in the QB category. Not saying that hes not going to be great, but there's still alot to be seen and desired from him.

Jimmy going to put his jimmy in Erin Andrews. Word

The deep ball has been something we haven't seen consistently from Garoppolo as a Niner (not sure about New England, didn't watch much of his fill in snaps for Brady in 2016). But the thing to keep in mind is that Garoppolo is never going to be Alex Smith level gunshy in big games with attacking intermediate and beyond. For that you must be grateful, because that's nearly impossible to overcome once it sets in. Even Kaepernick became gun shy as the years went on.

I really think this season Kyle is going to finally attack defenses vertically along with everything he's shown so far. I don't think we'll ever be Kansas City or Tampa in that regard, but maybe something resembling the Rams two seasons ago. If we can do 70% of what those Rams teams did vertically, this team will be unstoppable (only 70% because they had some legit WRs).

McKinnon and Trent Taylor providing some solid safety nets will keep drives moving even better than before.

I'm very confident going forward with our boy.