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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs ARIZONA CARDINALS - 2020 Game 1

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  • Baldie
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Originally posted by dmax:
And why wasn't Jordan Reed playing in the final few mins.
Shannahan is to blame on this too. If kittle can't play where was Jordan reed..FCUK

Right! He's supposed to be fast and can catch the ball but didn't see him out there alot. With deebo and aiyuk out, I expected alot of 2 or 3 TE sets keeping the AZ LB's on the field and Reed/kittle outrunning the backers for passes.
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Originally posted by mutant-man49:
Where the hell was Dee Ford? He was disappointing today. Must be concern if the team is bringing in Anash for a workout this week.

for depth. Teams are gonna double bosa and probably AA alotthis season. Ford, Jones, kinlaw need to step up big.
[ Edited by Baldie on Sep 13, 2020 at 7:04 PM ]
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Hopkins ate us up. You can see already good receivers are going to have big days against our D. Murray is not as talented as passer as we will see with other teams either.

Secondary and Jimmy G are the weak spots, same as they were in the superbowl

I thought the interior D-line struggled along with the LB's.

yeah they did , but i think was that they'll shake the rust off , get some time in at real game speed they'll hold their own ,, still no Buck as a leader on the D is my biggest concern till, one of these youngsters rises up to the challenge ,, the D lost momentum and had no leader to refocus them IMHO .. the O is a whole another story ...
[ Edited by dugo on Sep 13, 2020 at 7:07 PM ]
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Originally posted by dugo:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Hopkins ate us up. You can see already good receivers are going to have big days against our D. Murray is not as talented as passer as we will see with other teams either.

Secondary and Jimmy G are the weak spots, same as they were in the superbowl

I thought the interior D-line struggled along with the LB's.

yeah they did , but i think was that they'll shake the rust off , get some time in at real game speed they'll hold their own ,, still no Buck as a leader on the D is my biggest concern till, one of these youngsters rises up to the challenge ,, the D lost momentum and had no leader to refocus them IMHO .. the O is a whole another story ...

I think trading Buck was a huge mistake but I guess they felt Armstead could take in his role.
Originally posted by TTTT9ers:
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by CainanUK:
Originally posted by TTTT9ers:
I don't understand how that play wasn't a PI. The ball bounced off of the defenders head, and he didn't make any attempt to look for it...

I was thinking exactly the same thing...

Sherman would get flagged

No doubt... I'm just not sure how they could have missed that. The ball was going one way then it was in the face of our WR. Physics tells you that ball was redirect.


Face guarding isn't a penalty in the NFL. This is a clean play. How about jimmy throws it to the back pylon for an easy td
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TTTT9ers:
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by CainanUK:
Originally posted by TTTT9ers:
I don't understand how that play wasn't a PI. The ball bounced off of the defenders head, and he didn't make any attempt to look for it...

I was thinking exactly the same thing...

Sherman would get flagged

No doubt... I'm just not sure how they could have missed that. The ball was going one way then it was in the face of our WR. Physics tells you that ball was redirect.


Face guarding isn't a penalty in the NFL. This is a clean play. How about jimmy throws it to the back pylon for an easy td

Or he lets it go a second earlier. They had Peterson beat there. The pass was late.
FREAKIN problem here is that Shanny thinks he can make ANY player looks good in his offense so he doesn't want to ask Lynch for those TYPE A players..
Originally posted by JavonKinlaw:

Troll gonna keep trolling
Yea pass was late but if he just put it up higher or to the back of the end zone it's an easy td. He should be making these plays with ease.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TTTT9ers:
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by CainanUK:
Originally posted by TTTT9ers:
I don't understand how that play wasn't a PI. The ball bounced off of the defenders head, and he didn't make any attempt to look for it...

I was thinking exactly the same thing...

Sherman would get flagged

No doubt... I'm just not sure how they could have missed that. The ball was going one way then it was in the face of our WR. Physics tells you that ball was redirect.


Face guarding isn't a penalty in the NFL. This is a clean play. How about jimmy throws it to the back pylon for an easy td

The ball ricochets off of the defender's helmet into our WR helmet. If it wasn't ricocheted it would have hit our WR in the hands, not the helmet. Balls tend not to to change direction in the air without something deflecting it.



But I agree, going for the back pylon would have been the better choice given more time (can't remember if he had the time or not).
[ Edited by TTTT9ers on Sep 13, 2020 at 7:38 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
And personnel packages. Why didn't Wilson get that goal line pass, and why is Trent at 5'7" trying to win jump balls?

That was a scramble play at the end with Trent. It wasn't the play-call...jimmy got out of the pocket and they tried to make a play.

Was Wilson even active dude?

So the rule is quarterbacks can slide feet first or headfirst and they still can't be touched?

I didn't know that.
8 of our last 10 regular season games have been decided by 7 points or less (would have been 9 out of 10 if you remember we scored that weird game ending TD vs the Cards at home to win 36-26) ....Our record in those 8 games is 4-4 .... It may be something to keep an eye on in the future...It might be a sign of the inability of putting away teams, letting teams hang around...
[ Edited by vamphunter23 on Sep 13, 2020 at 7:51 PM ]
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
And personnel packages. Why didn't Wilson get that goal line pass, and why is Trent at 5'7" trying to win jump balls?

That was a scramble play at the end with Trent. It wasn't the play-call...jimmy got out of the pocket and they tried to make a play.

Was Wilson even active dude?

So the rule is quarterbacks can slide feet first or headfirst and they still can't be touched?

I didn't know that.

Hey if that is true I know how to go undefeated the rest of the year... Jimmy G diving QB sneak every play, if they touch him 15 yards.... if not get a couple yards every play, lol
Between Mosert, Coleman, Wilson and McKinnon (!), I feel okay about the 49ers running game.

George Kittle is a next level TE, but he is beginning to spend a lot of time in the shop instead of on the field, and that's worrisome.

Because the 49ers wide receivers scare NO ONE. There is nobody whom a defensive coordinator needs to do extra prep or reps to face. Kendrick Bourne? Trent Taylor? Dante Pettis? Whatever other cold ham n' cheese receiver will Shanny and Lync roll out there in red-and-gold to pretend they are the next Jerry Rice?

Nobody in this group qualifies to carry Flash 80's jock, and when you don't have to worry about the wide-outs, you dare Jimmy G. to beat you with dinking and dunking underneath with screens and roll-outs and other junk that doesn't stretch a defense. Doesn't give a secondary any reason to fear. Doesn't keep a defensive coordinator up late at night until the wee hours of the morning.

The 49ers have not had a WR like that for YEARS. After a certain point, bad drafts and bad trades and bad luck is not enough. The NFL is a passing league and if your quarterback can't run like a Jackson, Allen, Newton or Murray, you'd best have some receivers who can make up for a QB who can't make plays with their feet.

This feels like we are going into the final year of the "Jimmy G. is the next great 49ers QB" hype. Thus far, he is not. He can't make plays with his legs OR arm, with these guys, so what's left? Yes, he's a good looking guy, but go pose nekkid for the next ESPN Body Issue (oops, dated reference cuz ESPN the Magazine is deader than disco) if you need that sort of thing.

I need Shanahan and Lynch to show they have the weapons to not only repeat as NFC champs, but to improve as so to knock off a Ravens or Chiefs. I did not see those steps in the off-season and I definitely did not at 4:30 pm EST today. The Cards owned the 49ers two seasons ago winning their only two game of 2018 against the crimson and gold and here we are again. Murray gave Bob Saleh's defense fits last season and now 15 pounds heavier, he's only built on that.

Let the record show that the NFL is moving beyond the stand-in-the-pocket QB's like Jimmy G. It has definitely moved past WR3's posing as ones and twos. If I can see that sitting on my couch in Ohio, why haven't Lynch and Shanahan seen it in Cali. I can't get too hyped over one game, but boy is it discouraging to see the problems of 2019 carried over to 2020.
[ Edited by Ohio49er on Sep 13, 2020 at 8:16 PM ]
Originally posted by vamphunter23:
8 of our last 10 regular season games have been decided by 7 points or less (would have been 9 out of 10 if you remember we scored that weird game ending TD vs the Cards at home to win 36-26) ....Our record in those 8 games is 4-4 .... It may be something to keep an eye on in the future...It be a sign of the inability of putting away teams, letting teams hang around...

This was basically exactly the same thing when Nick Mullens was starting, except we lost all of those games. At least with Jimmy we were winning more of those close games, but its possible that its just chance that we are winning the close ones now and if mulleins was in there, we could've had the same record?
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