Coaches Film Analysis: 2020 Season

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by thl408:
zugschef: I was referring to the last two games - LAR and NE.

jd, about BAllen, I think it was just that very first play of the game where he had a 1/3 zone and was in bail technique (don't get beat deep). If I remember correctly, most of the other times BAllen got beat deep vs MIA, the 49ers were in a Cover3, but BAllen was in man coverage. I remember multiple times where he pressed the WR, had his back turned to the QB, and got beat. That first play of the game was inexcusable as he was in bail and still got beat deep. The other times, I put that on Saleh for having a depth CB man up on an island.

@thl I got you, I just wanted to remind that Saleh has already done that when it was absolutely the worst thing he could've done.

The problem on the first play was that he was unable to correctly adjust to the underthrown ball. If he wouldn't have stopped, he could've easily broken up or maybe even intercepted the ball. So yes, I agree, that one's on Allen. But after that play Saleh should have immediately made a mental note and given him help on every single play; which he for some totally inexplicable reason didn't.

It was utterly ridiculous. Just as if Saleh was thinking that surely they won't call that every time they need a chunk play because it's cheap or something. D'uh!

Totally agree on the bolded.

I didn't cut up plays for this game because jd hit on so many plays in his video. And the majority of the second half was garbage time imo.

Just want to gif these two plays (both 3rd downs) where the 49ers used formation to give NE a tough decision. Kittle got a lot of attention from Hoodie and was bracketed on multiple downs. When the TE is a big mismatch, this is something the offense can do to force the defense into a tough position.

On both these plays, the 49ers go 3x1 with Kittle as the 1. If NE wants to bracket Kittle they'd have to devote two defenders to the non-passing strength side of the field, which would possibly give a favorable matchup to the strongside (3 WR side). So NE makes a decision to put their best cover guy 1v1 on Kittle (Gilmore).

Defenders are either fast enough but not big enough, or big enough but not fast enough to cover Kittle 1v1. By lining up Kittle tight to the formation, it allows for more room to work the Out route. On one play Gilmore loses via body positioning. On the other play, Gilmore blitzes and Jimmy takes it. If defenses want to man up, this is always an option because Kittle cannot be covered 1v1.

Originally posted by thl408:
I didn't cut up plays for this game because jd hit on so many plays in his video. And the majority of the second half was garbage time imo.

Just want to gif these two plays (both 3rd downs) where the 49ers used formation to give NE a tough decision. Kittle got a lot of attention from Hoodie and was bracketed on multiple downs. When the TE is a big mismatch, this is something the offense can do to force the defense into a tough position.

On both these plays, the 49ers go 3x1 with Kittle as the 1. If NE wants to bracket Kittle they'd have to devote two defenders to the non-passing strength side of the field, which would possibly give a favorable matchup to the strongside (3 WR side). So NE makes a decision to put their best cover guy 1v1 on Kittle (Gilmore).

Defenders are either fast enough but not big enough, or big enough but not fast enough to cover Kittle 1v1. By lining up Kittle tight to the formation, it allows for more room to work the Out route. On one play Gilmore loses via body positioning. On the other play, Gilmore blitzes and Jimmy takes it. If defenses want to man up, this is always an option because Kittle cannot be covered 1v1.

And people continue to question Jimmy's arm strength, those are difficult throws that have to come with power and accuracy. Throws Mullens can't make with his noodle arm.

Originally posted by jcs:
And people continue to question Jimmy's arm strength, those are difficult throws that have to come with power and accuracy. Throws Mullens can't make with his noodle arm.

Cam newton apparently too lol

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by thl408:
I didn't cut up plays for this game because jd hit on so many plays in his video. And the majority of the second half was garbage time imo.

Just want to gif these two plays (both 3rd downs) where the 49ers used formation to give NE a tough decision. Kittle got a lot of attention from Hoodie and was bracketed on multiple downs. When the TE is a big mismatch, this is something the offense can do to force the defense into a tough position.

On both these plays, the 49ers go 3x1 with Kittle as the 1. If NE wants to bracket Kittle they'd have to devote two defenders to the non-passing strength side of the field, which would possibly give a favorable matchup to the strongside (3 WR side). So NE makes a decision to put their best cover guy 1v1 on Kittle (Gilmore).

Defenders are either fast enough but not big enough, or big enough but not fast enough to cover Kittle 1v1. By lining up Kittle tight to the formation, it allows for more room to work the Out route. On one play Gilmore loses via body positioning. On the other play, Gilmore blitzes and Jimmy takes it. If defenses want to man up, this is always an option because Kittle cannot be covered 1v1.

And people continue to question Jimmy's arm strength, those are difficult throws that have to come with power and accuracy. Throws Mullens can't make with his noodle arm.

He really showcased his arm strength on a bumbled snap on a fake screen throwing to Juice. It was an absolute laser 70 ft dowfield. Funny thing is, I watched Matt Ryan make the same throw 13 yards down field, did the match:
Jimmy's ball speed is 44.85 MPH
Matty Ice: 30.58 MPH

That's in game ball velocity

Originally posted by jonnydel:
He really showcased his arm strength on a bumbled snap on a fake screen throwing to Juice. It was an absolute laser 70 ft dowfield. Funny thing is, I watched Matt Ryan make the same throw 13 yards down field, did the match:
Jimmy's ball speed is 44.85 MPH
Matty Ice: 30.58 MPH

That's in game ball velocity

Where'd you find that (throw MPH)?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
He really showcased his arm strength on a bumbled snap on a fake screen throwing to Juice. It was an absolute laser 70 ft dowfield. Funny thing is, I watched Matt Ryan make the same throw 13 yards down field, did the match:
Jimmy's ball speed is 44.85 MPH
Matty Ice: 30.58 MPH

That's in game ball velocity

Where'd you find that (throw MPH)?

I adjusted the calculations a little after I took into account lateral distance. I got it by calculating the hypotenuse, recorded the throw, trimmed it to the moment of release and the moment of catch and got the time, used that to calculate distance the ball traveled over time(feet per second) then converted that to MPH.

Jimmy's was actually 47 MPH and Matt's 42.15 MPH

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
He really showcased his arm strength on a bumbled snap on a fake screen throwing to Juice. It was an absolute laser 70 ft dowfield. Funny thing is, I watched Matt Ryan make the same throw 13 yards down field, did the match:
Jimmy's ball speed is 44.85 MPH
Matty Ice: 30.58 MPH

That's in game ball velocity

Where'd you find that (throw MPH)?

I adjusted the calculations a little after I took into account lateral distance. I got it by calculating the hypotenuse, recorded the throw, trimmed it to the moment of release and the moment of catch and got the time, used that to calculate distance the ball traveled over time(feet per second) then converted that to MPH.

Jimmy's was actually 47 MPH and Matt's 42.15 MPH

The throws were:
Jimmy vs NE 4:02 3rd qtr
Matt: 13:19 2nd qtr week 1 vs SEA

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
He really showcased his arm strength on a bumbled snap on a fake screen throwing to Juice. It was an absolute laser 70 ft dowfield. Funny thing is, I watched Matt Ryan make the same throw 13 yards down field, did the match:
Jimmy's ball speed is 44.85 MPH
Matty Ice: 30.58 MPH

That's in game ball velocity

Where'd you find that (throw MPH)?

I adjusted the calculations a little after I took into account lateral distance. I got it by calculating the hypotenuse, recorded the throw, trimmed it to the moment of release and the moment of catch and got the time, used that to calculate distance the ball traveled over time(feet per second) then converted that to MPH.

Jimmy's was actually 47 MPH and Matt's 42.15 MPH

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
He really showcased his arm strength on a bumbled snap on a fake screen throwing to Juice. It was an absolute laser 70 ft dowfield. Funny thing is, I watched Matt Ryan make the same throw 13 yards down field, did the match:
Jimmy's ball speed is 44.85 MPH
Matty Ice: 30.58 MPH

That's in game ball velocity

Where'd you find that (throw MPH)?

I adjusted the calculations a little after I took into account lateral distance. I got it by calculating the hypotenuse, recorded the throw, trimmed it to the moment of release and the moment of catch and got the time, used that to calculate distance the ball traveled over time(feet per second) then converted that to MPH.

Jimmy's was actually 47 MPH and Matt's 42.15 MPH

LOL, pretty much.

You guys are awesome! JD, THL a special thanks to you for sharing!

Originally posted by eastie:

You guys are awesome! JD, THL a special thanks to you for sharing!

You, sir, are welcome.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

I adjusted the calculations a little after I took into account lateral distance. I got it by calculating the hypotenuse, recorded the throw, trimmed it to the moment of release and the moment of catch and got the time, used that to calculate distance the ball traveled over time(feet per second) then converted that to MPH.

Jimmy's was actually 47 MPH and Matt's 42.15 MPH

Jonnydel......you work for Nasa or what?

Originally posted by Thanos89:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

I adjusted the calculations a little after I took into account lateral distance. I got it by calculating the hypotenuse, recorded the throw, trimmed it to the moment of release and the moment of catch and got the time, used that to calculate distance the ball traveled over time(feet per second) then converted that to MPH.

Jimmy's was actually 47 MPH and Matt's 42.15 MPH

Jonnydel......you work for Nasa or what?

Mother f**king Good Will Hunting

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by jcs:

And people continue to question Jimmy's arm strength, those are difficult throws that have to come with power and accuracy. Throws Mullens can't make with his noodle arm.

Cam newton apparently too lol

I think Cam's body is shot sadly, not really a fan but I hate to see a guy get used up so young.