49ers sign Ziggy Ansah

So, who's next?

C.Matthews
C.Wake
J.Sheard
T.Sizzle
Trade?

Running out of options here.

Originally posted by theduke85:
imo people lose credibility when they can't look at this stuff objectively. There is a reason Ziggy Ansah was available in week 3 in free agency. He sucks and he's injury prone. There is a reason Jordan Reed signed with us for the league minimum. He is injury prone as hell.

Yes, we've had some unfortunate injuries. But this board needs to stop with this victim complex of acting like injury-prone getting players injured is "bad luck". That's not bad luck, it should be expected.

agreed...I mean when you're signing guys that are constantly hurt don't be shocked if they're hurt lol. I'm fine getting some depth guys that are cheaper with some good upside (if healthy). I was cool with Reed. We have a great TE and anything we get from Reed is gravy. Fine with Verrett, we had starters at CB.

On the other hand we basically lost both our starting edge rushers and they opt to sign this old turd? Waste of money and time. I don't know how they actually thought he would magically be healthy

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
So, who's next?

C.Matthews
C.Wake
J.Sheard
T.Sizzle
Trade?

Running out of options here.

i think you gotta get mathews in here

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea the guy has been a walking injury his whole career. It's just like we all knew Jordan Reed would get injured

Reed actually looks like a football player though. He produced. Ziggy looks out of shape and slow, SF basically lost both edge rushers and somehow expected to get production out of this old turd

Whatever we got from Reed IMO is just gravy.

agree,

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

So, who's next?

C.Matthews
C.Wake
J.Sheard
T.Sizzle
Trade?

Running out of options here.

The draft.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Maybe... but I disagree with it being a victim complex or with it just being bad luck because we got guys who are injury prone. That's not the root cause of the reaction. The root cause of the reaction is all of the injuries to the team period. This year and almost the entirety of Shanahan and Lynch's time here. Last year we were actually somewhat fortunate of course. Jimmy stayed healthy, the backs stayed healthy except nicks and bruises. Receivers stayed healthy, Kittle out for a couple of games. Blair tore his ACL and Dee was in and out with the knee. But this year is like two years ago and obviously even worse with the sheer number of injuries and key ones at that. But I remember the Raiders game that night with Nick's debut when it wasn't just his coming out but also Raheem's coming out as maybe he's something as a running back. Has a nice long touchdown run and then later completely breaks his arm that same night. I remember twitter jokes, even though I don't tweet about how the 49ers can't catch a break this year.

I think people are just shell shocked by it all at this point and that's where it all comes from. Regardless of Ansah and Reed's durability and injury history.

I get the shell shock for sure... but how about we stop bringing in every injury prone player (who's actually talented) but never healthy...If it's depth guys that's fine. DO NOT count on them to be major contributors though.

For the love of god let's stop spending top end money on guys that have a history of injures or are coming off injuries. Richburg, Kwon, Ford etc. The only good thing with doing that is you can get them a little cheaper AND have some flexibility with those contracts...they completely got rid of that option when the restructured all three dudes

I'd say that's part that's a reason why we've been snake bitten with these injuries. No one truly knows why we're constantly injured ,if they did they'd be making a lot of cash lol, BUT constantly bringing in dudes with a history of health issues is probably a factor IMO.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I get the shell shock for sure... but how about we stop bringing in every injury prone player (who's actually talented) but never healthy...If it's depth guys that's fine. DO NOT count on them to be major contributors though.

For the love of god let's stop spending top end money on guys that have a history of injures or are coming off injuries. Richburg, Kwon, Ford etc. The only good thing with doing that is you can get them a little cheaper AND have some flexibility with those contracts...they completely got rid of that option when the restructured all three dudes

I'd say that's part that's a reason why we've been snake bitten with these injuries. No one truly knows why we're constantly injured ,if they did they'd be making a lot of cash lol, BUT constantly bringing in dudes with a history of health issues is probably a factor IMO.

FOR f**kING REAL!!!! Amen Brutha

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I get the shell shock for sure... but how about we stop bringing in every injury prone player (who's actually talented) but never healthy...If it's depth guys that's fine. DO NOT count on them to be major contributors though.

For the love of god let's stop spending top end money on guys that have a history of injures or are coming off injuries. Richburg, Kwon, Ford etc. The only good thing with doing that is you can get them a little cheaper AND have some flexibility with those contracts...they completely got rid of that option when the restructured all three dudes

I'd say that's part that's a reason why we've been snake bitten with these injuries. No one truly knows why we're constantly injured ,if they did they'd be making a lot of cash lol, BUT constantly bringing in dudes with a history of health issues is probably a factor IMO.

Kwon actually made some plays yesterday. First time I've really seen him involved that much since the opening game last season. I understand the frustration about signing players that have an injury history but that's part of Paraag's and John's philosophy I guess. They're always trying to find the bargain players and once in awhile it works but it backfires an awful lot. It's something they may need to sit back and evaluate in the off season.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Maybe... but I disagree with it being a victim complex or with it just being bad luck because we got guys who are injury prone. That's not the root cause of the reaction. The root cause of the reaction is all of the injuries to the team period. This year and almost the entirety of Shanahan and Lynch's time here. Last year we were actually somewhat fortunate of course. Jimmy stayed healthy, the backs stayed healthy except nicks and bruises. Receivers stayed healthy, Kittle out for a couple of games. Blair tore his ACL and Dee was in and out with the knee. But this year is like two years ago and obviously even worse with the sheer number of injuries and key ones at that. But I remember the Raiders game that night with Nick's debut when it wasn't just his coming out but also Raheem's coming out as maybe he's something as a running back. Has a nice long touchdown run and then later completely breaks his arm that same night. I remember twitter jokes, even though I don't tweet about how the 49ers can't catch a break this year.

I think people are just shell shocked by it all at this point and that's where it all comes from. Regardless of Ansah and Reed's durability and injury history.

I'm just saying that you can't conflate everything into one big sweeping statement. Evaluate this stuff on a case-by-case basis.

Jordan Reed was injury prone. Ziggy Ansah was injury prone. Dee Ford had serious question marks about his health when he traded for him, that's why we got him relatively cheap. These guys shouldn't fuel the "woe is me" narrative.

If you think we're unlucky about injuries with other players, fine. I'm just saying it's disingenuous to lump them all together.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Rascal:
Come on down Clay Matthews.

Hes not going to want to sign here. Hes safe on his couch. I joked that Ansah would avoid signing here because of the injury curse, and it turns out that's exactly what happened.

We will see about that. At the end of the day, money talks, BS walks.

Would love it if they signed Matthews. I doubt they will though.

They don't have a choice. It doesn't really matter whether he is a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 DE, he just needs to get to the QB and last year he did pretty well playing for the Rams.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kwon actually made some plays yesterday. First time I've really seen him involved that much since the opening game last season. I understand the frustration about signing players that have an injury history but that's part of Paraag's and John's philosophy I guess. They're always trying to find the bargain players and once in awhile it works but it backfires an awful lot. It's something they may need to sit back and evaluate in the off season.

Yeah he actually tackled some dudes for a change

He's still not even close to worth his contract. Not even close.

Yeah it's a pretty bad philosophy IMO. Sign guys with injuries or a injured past, don't be shocked if they get injured again. AND for the love of god don't count on them to be major contributors at the very least.

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

So, who's next?

C.Matthews
C.Wake
J.Sheard
T.Sizzle
Trade?

Running out of options here.

Hell, give me anybody that can generate a pass rush. Right now, we have nobody that can get consistent pressure from the edge.

Ansah is doing what Ansah has done his entire career. Absolutely nothing. He's big and doesn't mess up, but he provides nothing at all.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah it's a pretty bad philosophy IMO. Sign guys with injuries or a injured past, don't be shocked if they get injured again. AND for the love of god don't count on them to be major contributors at the very least.

It's fine to take gambles on these guys. They have high upside. But yeah, counting on them is a fool's game. And crying about it being bad luck is even worse.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah he actually tackled some dudes for a change

He's still not even close to worth his contract. Not even close.

Yeah it's a pretty bad philosophy IMO. Sign guys with injuries or a injured past, don't be shocked if they get injured again. AND for the love of god don't count on them to be major contributors at the very least.

That's where they are making the mistake. If he doesn't work out or gets injured again, they don't really have a plan B other than to go to the backups. Even if they play well like some have done, you still weaken the team because those guys were supposed to be your rotational depth. Now they're starters.