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AB81Rules
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Some key things from the article/page in case you guys don't feel like ready the entire thing, cause it's massive.
Ideal 2021 Roster:
OFFENSE:
QB(2/3): 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 4 Nick Mullens(2021) and/or 3 C.J. Beathard(2021)
RB(4): 31 Raheem Mostert(2025)/ 26 Tevin Coleman(2022)/ 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2021)/ 38 JaMycal Hasty(2021)
FB(1): 44 Kyle Juszyzck(2024)
WR(6): 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023)/ 84 Kendrick Bourne(2022)/ 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ two of these players 13 Richie James Jr.(2021), 14 Kevin White(2021), 17 Jauan Jennings(2022), or Rookie Draft Pick(2024)
TE(4): 85 George Kittle(2025)/ 81 Jordan Reed(2021)/ 82 Ross Dwelley(2021)/ 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)
C(2): 58 Weston Richburg(2022)/ 63 Ben Garland(2021) or a Draft Pick or Veteran
OG(4): 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)/ 60 Daniel Brunskill(2021)/ 2 of these players 61 Dakoda Shepley(2022), Veteran, or Rookie Draft Pick C/OG(2024)
OT(3): 71 Trent Williams(2025)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2022)/ either 67 Justin Skule(2022), 78 Shon Coleman(2021), or a Rookie(2024)
DEFENSE:
DE(5): 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2024)/ 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ 98 Ronald Blair III(2021)/ 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2021)
DT(4): 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)/ 94 Solomon Thomas(2021)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)/ 90 Kevin Givens(2021)
NT(2): 93 D.J. Jones(2025)/ 77 Jullian Taylor(2021)
LB(5): 54 Fred Warner(2026)/ 56 Kwon Alexander(2022)/ 57 Dre Grenlaw(2022)/ two of these players 53 Mark Nzeocha(2021), 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021), 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2021), or a Rookie(2024)
CB(5): 25 Richard Sherman(2023)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2021)/ 24 K'Waun Williams(2024)/ 22 Jason Verrett(2023)/ Rookie Draft Pick(2024) or 23 Ahkello Witherspoon(2021)
FS(2): 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)/ 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)
SS(2): 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2023)/ either 36 Marcell Harris(2021) or 32 Johnathan Cyprien(2021)
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK(1): 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P(1): 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS(1): 46 Taybor Pepper(2020) or Vet/Rookie
Notes: The numbers in parenthesis are the year they're contract runs out.
I do have 54 players listed, as I'm having a hard time with who wouldn't be on the perfect 2021 roster, but I can see Nick Bosa, and Solomon Thomas starting on reserve/PUP, opening up 1 spot, maybe for a 2021 draft pick.
I have the following being restructured.
On a $175M cap, Garoppolo, Richburg, Armstead, Ford, Alexander, and Ward.
On a $198.2M cap, Garoppolo, Ford, and Alexander.
Re-signing the following.
QB 4 Nick Mullens to a 1-year deal, worth either $2.914M on a $175M cap, or $3.259M on a $198.2M as a RFA(2nd-round tender)
RB 26 Tevin Coleman to a 2-year deal, worth $5M($2.5M APY, $2.5M in 2021 & 2022)
RB 30 Jeff Wilson Jr. to a 1-year deal, worth $920K
RB 38 JaMycal Hasty to a 1-year deal, worth $780K
FB 44 Kyle Juszyzck to a 4-year deal, worth $21M($5.25M APY, $4.5M in 2021, $3.5M in 2022, $6.5M in 2023 & 2024)
TE 82 Ross Dwelley to a 1-year deal, worth $920K
WR 84 Kendrick Bourne to a 2-year deal, worth $5M($2.5M APY, $3M in 2021, $2M in 2022)
TE 81 Jordan Reed to a 1-year deal, worth $1.075M, but counting only $850K against the cap
C 63 Ben Garland to a 1-year deal, worth $2M
RG 60 Daniel Brunskill to a 1-year deal, worth $850K(ERFA tender)
LT 71 Trent Williams to a 5-year deal, worth $80M($16M APY, $5.5M in 2021, $5.5M in 2022, $19.5M in 2023, $24.5M in 2024, & $25M in 2025)
DE 92 Kerry Hyder Jr. to a 1-year deal, worth $2M
DE 98 Ronald Blair III to a 1-year deal, worth $3M
DT 94 Solomon Thomas to a 1-year deal, worth $1,127,500
NT 93 D.J. Jones to a 5-year deal, worth $25M($5M APY $2.5M in 2021 & 2022, $5.5M in 2023, $6.5M in 2024, $8M in 2025)
CB 25 Richard Sherman to a 3-year deal, worth $30M($10M APY, $8M in 2021, $7M in 2022, & $15M in 2023)
CB 41 Emmanuel Moseley to a 1-year deal, worth either $2.914M on a $175M cap, or $3.259M on a $198.2M as a RFA(2nd-round tender)
CB 24 K'Waun Williams to a 4-year deal, worth $32M($8M APY, $7.5M in 2021, $3.5M in 2022, $10.5M in 2023 & 2024)
CB 22 Jason Verrett to a 3-year deal worth $12M($4M APY, $2.5M in 2021, $4.5M in 2022, $5M in 2023)
SS 29 Jaquiski Tartt to a 3-year deal, worth $28.5M($9.5M APY, $6.5M in 2021, $5.5M in 2022, & 14.5M in 2023)
Extensions:
RB 31 Raheem Mostert to a 4-yerar extension, worth $20M($5M APY, $2,718,922 in 2021, $3M in 2022 & 2023, $4M in 2024, & $5M in 2025)
MLB 54 Fred Warner to a 5-year extension, worth $90M($18M APY, $5,252,547 in 2021, $5.5M in 2022, $10.5M in 2023, $19M in 2024, $27M in 2025, & $25M in 2026)
Potential Re-Sigings:
WR 14 Kevin White to a 1-year deal, worth $850K
CB 23 Ahkello Witherspoon to a 1-year deal, worth $987,500
SS 36 Marcell Harris to a 1-year deal, worth $920K
SS 32 Johnathan Cyprien to a 1-year deal, worth $850K
Cap Room:
2021(On a $175M cap) - $6,386,772
2021(On a $198.2M cap) - $14,296,772
2022(On a $227.5M cap, with a 2021 cap of $175M) - ($14,215,890)
2022(On a $227.5M cap, with a 2021 cap of $198.2M) - ($12,706,890)
2023(On a $241M cap, with a 2021 cap of $175M) - $28,767,509
2023(On a $241M cap, with a 2021 cap of $198.2M) - $39,657,509
2024(On a $256M cap, with a 2021 cap of $175M) - $108,923,000
2024(On a $256M cap, with a 2021 cap of $198.2M) - $108,293,000
Don't be scared by the 2022 cap room, or overage, for that year they can restructure Kittle's deal, and save $8.423M, also if they pick up Mike McGlinchey's 5th-year option, it would either be $12.525M if the 2021 cap is $175M, or $14.666M if the 2021 cap is $198.2M, the reason for the difference is that the 5th-year option is based off of the previous years transition tag number if the player is a top 10 pick, which McGlinchey was. It could also be in between, as we don't know for sure what the 2021 cap will be set at, it's looking more likely, unless the NFL gets a huge amount of revenue, the cap will be on the lower end, which means the team will need to get creative with restructurings, on a $175M cap, they'd NEED to redo Jimmy(I look at it as an extension if he keeps playing well), AA, Ward, Richburg, Ford, and Kwon, on a $198.2M cap, then just Jimmy, AA, Ward, and Ford, they could get away with not redoing Dee's deal, but they'd lose $11.26M in cap room from my 2021 cap number.
Also, the RFA tenders will be different, if the cap is $175M the 2nd rd tender would be around $2.914M, or $3.259M on a $198.2M cap, I expect both Mullens and Moseley to get the 2nd rd tender level.
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NYniner85
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^^ AB I know you're all about resigning every niner, but there is absolutely no reason to resign Coleman...none.
If Blair doesn't come back this yr, I see no point in resigning him. I also don't see how he would get more than Hyder? Solomon Thomas? Nope. Take all that extra $ and get a meaningful edge rusher.
While I love Bourne, I'd let him test the market out. I'd also let Tartt test out the market. Same with Sherm.
I'd also be very leery of restructuring any of the following Ford/Richburg/Kwon. They gotta stop pushing money down the road on guys that just can't stay healthy. Pull the band-Aid.
No more giving meaningful money to guys that can't stay healthy, no more pushing money down the road in hopes they can stay healthy...
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AB81Rules
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
^^ AB I know you're all about resigning every niner, but there is absolutely no reason to resign Coleman...none.
If Blair doesn't come back this yr, I see no point in resigning him. I also don't see how he would get more than Hyder? Solomon Thomas? Nope. Take all that extra $ and get a meaningful edge rusher.
While I love Bourne, I'd let him test the market out. I'd also let Tartt test out the market. Same with Sherm.
I'd also be very leery of restructuring any of the following Ford/Richburg/Kwon. They gotta stop pushing money down the road on guys that just can't stay healthy. Pull the band-Aid.
No more giving meaningful money to guys that can't stay healthy, no more pushing money down the road in hopes they can stay healthy...
I mentioned at the bottom that I wouldn't re-sign Coleman, but I believe Shanny will fight to keep him, he is a good blocker, but I'd move on.
Blair I have back, probably too high I agree, just like him, had a back break with the ACL tear in the Seahawks game.
Bourne I'd re-sign due to no other real threat at WR besides Deebo and Aiyuk. I'd re-sign Tartt for sure, he's had a really good season. I agree with Sherman, I'd either let him test the market/walk, or re-sign on super team friendly deal, only if he can return this season, if not, don't re-sign, I'm fine with EMan, Verrett, and K'Waun at CB.
Unfortunately the restructuring has to be done to keep our guys, the main ones like Trent, K'Waun, Juice, Jones, Tartt.
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JaggedJ
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The only reason we'd keep Coleman is if Shanny wanted to keep him as a vet presence.
Hasty looks good, damn good, and if he continues to ball then he should move up the chart.
Mostert, Wilson, Hasty sounds fine to me with us picking up another late round or UDFA to develop behind them.
Kwon/Ford are sticking points. Our FO/scouts seem to have a good handle on the prototypical LB for our system, and I would back them to find someone to develop behind Warner/Greenlaw if we could move Kwon.
For just can't stay available. Right now it's a waste of cap and roster spot.
Secondary is an interesting one. Verret, E-Man and Sherm are all starting quality DB's, but I would look to keep all 3 just because Spoon doesn't look likely to be kept and having just Verret, E-Man with ??? Behind them is a little scary.
Safeties I'd be more at ease switching up because we do have depth behind them.
Ford/Kwon are the ones that make me uneasy. Restructuring them further really backs us into a corner and I'm not really keen on that.
Great read BTW AB.
[ Edited by JaggedJ on Oct 26, 2020 at 2:21 PM ]
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Originally posted by lamontb:
we can't keep everybody and shouldn't. Ward and Tartt don't make much of a difference to be resigned when we need to save money to pay better players. DJ Jones really hasn't shown much to be resigned in my opinion. Mckinnon and Coleman both need to be gone. We do need to resign Williams. I'd rather have him over Sherman at this point in there careers. Sherm leg issues aren't going to get better
I Agree with you. I think it is time to rebuild the Backfield. Let Ward and Tartt go, replace with Moore and Harris/draft pick/FA.
Sherman shouldn't be re signed unless it is very team friendly. I too would rather keep Williams and possibly Verrett(do not give him a big contract!). We have Eman and maybe a 1st round corner/Verrett starting.
Solomon Thomas has already stolen enough money from the team and needs to go to the XFL.
DJ Jones will command a decent pay day due to the nature of overpaying in FA and I don't think he should be re signed.
I would keep Hyder and try to find diamonds in the rough similar to Hyder who don't cost much but will produce.
Warner will and should be payed as top1 or top2 LB in the NFL.
Get rid of Kwon
Get rid of Dee Ford if injuries persist.
To be honest next year might be sort of a soft reboot and we might see a lot of new guys on the team.
We can't and shouldn't keep non producers and injuries Flies.
Mckinnon must go, I would get rid of Coleman and keep Mostert, Hasty, and Wilson Jr. Sign UDFAs for the Win.
Get rid of Bourne unless he signs for the vet Minimum
Get rid of Taylor, James and Pettis
We need fresh blood from the end of the draft rds 6-7th plus Hungry UDFAs for new receivers.
Too much money is tied up in Non producers and injuries Flies this year and it is f**king up the ability to trade for someone who could have helped us on the Edge this year on our quest to the Super Bowl, which we still have a excellent shot due to the weak NFC this year