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⛏ SF 49ERS vs PHI EAGLES 🦅 Pregame Thread - 2020 Season Week 4

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⛏ SF 49ERS vs PHI EAGLES 🦅 Pregame Thread - 2020 Season Week 4

Originally posted by CreedBratton:
Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
I'm just here to say Trent Williams is an awesome addition and teammate!!

yes, gotta sign him

Not sure if this was posted but this guy is one hell of a leader
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Think Saleh throws more blitzes out again this game? Wentz is seeing ghosts and has no one to throw the ball too.

Also for the love of god can we stop the RPO? Teams are gonna keep using it until we actually start to stop it

Has any team stopped Seadderall and AZ? I think AZ stopped themselves with (I think) 3 interceptions. The RPO, with all the added QB protection rules changes, is almost impossible to stop nowadays. I think that's why Bellicheat went with Cam Newton as his QB. They are now basically a running team.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Has any team stopped Seadderall and AZ? I think AZ stopped themselves with (I think) 3 interceptions. The RPO, with all the added QB protection rules changes, is almost impossible to stop nowadays. I think that's why Bellicheat went with Cam Newton as his QB. They are now basically a running team.

What do you consider stopped? Arizona only scored 24 against us, 23 against the lions. I wouldn't say thats amazing. And against the lions, perhaps the 3 interceptions were the result of keeping Murray in the pocket?
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Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Has any team stopped Seadderall and AZ? I think AZ stopped themselves with (I think) 3 interceptions. The RPO, with all the added QB protection rules changes, is almost impossible to stop nowadays. I think that's why Bellicheat went with Cam Newton as his QB. They are now basically a running team.

What do you consider stopped? Arizona only scored 24 against us, 23 against the lions. I wouldn't say thats amazing. And against the lions, perhaps the 3 interceptions were the result of keeping Murray in the pocket?

Don't forget Mahomes too. Point is the offense has a man advantage (in a sense) with a running QB that is a good passer. It may be that defenses are catching up to Kliff's offense, but we shall see. At this point in time, the way the rules are, mobile QB's like a Russel Wilson should dominate offensively nowadays.

As for *stopping* - in the old days, defenses like the '85 bear defense, the Baltimore defense, the tampa bay Kiffen defenses could stop offenses cold. As in 3 and out, and nowadays, you can have an offense be 3rd and 15 and with a running mobile QB, they con convert, so I think stopping these offenses is the wrong word, I think slowing them down is the better word.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Not sure if this was posted but this guy is one hell of a leader

ya hes such a pro
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Stanley:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Has any team stopped Seadderall and AZ? I think AZ stopped themselves with (I think) 3 interceptions. The RPO, with all the added QB protection rules changes, is almost impossible to stop nowadays. I think that's why Bellicheat went with Cam Newton as his QB. They are now basically a running team.

What do you consider stopped? Arizona only scored 24 against us, 23 against the lions. I wouldn't say thats amazing. And against the lions, perhaps the 3 interceptions were the result of keeping Murray in the pocket?

Don't forget Mahomes too. Point is the offense has a man advantage (in a sense) with a running QB that is a good passer. It may be that defenses are catching up to Kliff's offense, but we shall see. At this point in time, the way the rules are, mobile QB's like a Russel Wilson should dominate offensively nowadays.

As for *stopping* - in the old days, defenses like the '85 bear defense, the Baltimore defense, the tampa bay Kiffen defenses could stop offenses cold. As in 3 and out, and nowadays, you can have an offense be 3rd and 15 and with a running mobile QB, they con convert, so I think stopping these offenses is the wrong word, I think slowing them down is the better word.
don't forget the Refs giving like 45 yards for touching KM. That there gave them the game
Originally posted by Giedi:
Don't forget Mahomes too. Point is the offense has a man advantage (in a sense) with a running QB that is a good passer. It may be that defenses are catching up to Kliff's offense, but we shall see. At this point in time, the way the rules are, mobile QB's like a Russel Wilson should dominate offensively nowadays.

As for *stopping* - in the old days, defenses like the '85 bear defense, the Baltimore defense, the tampa bay Kiffen defenses could stop offenses cold. As in 3 and out, and nowadays, you can have an offense be 3rd and 15 and with a running mobile QB, they con convert, so I think stopping these offenses is the wrong word, I think slowing them down is the better word.

That may be the biggest reason I'm not as enthusiastic about JG as some fans. The game is definitely changing to a more offensive game. As you pointed out, having a mobile QB can extend drives when it appears your defense has them stopped. Unfortunately that's one thing Jimmy can't do on any consistent basis. That not only can result in a score but it's deflating for the defense.

I used to think the running QBs couldn't last in the NFL but with rule changes and the uptempo option game that some of the college coaches have brought into the league, I've changed my mind. I think they may be here to stay unless there are some major rule changes that swing things back in favor of the defense. I don't see that happening any time soon.
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...
Originally posted by mattster03:
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...

Greenlaw is out again
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by mattster03:
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...

Greenlaw is out again

Supposedly PHI likes to use 2TE sets so not having Greenlaw means Al-Shair will get lots of snaps. That sucks I wanted to see Greenlaw play.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by mattster03:
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...

Greenlaw is out again

Supposedly PHI likes to use 2TE sets so not having Greenlaw means Al-Shair will get lots of snaps. That sucks I wanted to see Greenlaw play.

Thank god Goedert is out
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by mattster03:
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...

Greenlaw is out again
Did you get this from Twitter? I'm curious where I can get early practice attendance info. I always wait for the Niners to post it on their website around 5:00 or so...
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by mattster03:
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...

Greenlaw is out again

Supposedly PHI likes to use 2TE sets so not having Greenlaw means Al-Shair will get lots of snaps. That sucks I wanted to see Greenlaw play.

Thank god Goedert is out

Thank goed Godert is out
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by mattster03:
I really hope we see Greenlaw & Mosely practicing today...

Greenlaw is out again
Did you get this from Twitter? I'm curious where I can get early practice attendance info. I always wait for the Niners to post it on their website around 5:00 or so...

Inman and other beat writers will put it in their articles on the front page. Usually with KS's injury comments. I guess the good news is he was off in a side field practicing
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Oct 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Don't forget Mahomes too. Point is the offense has a man advantage (in a sense) with a running QB that is a good passer. It may be that defenses are catching up to Kliff's offense, but we shall see. At this point in time, the way the rules are, mobile QB's like a Russel Wilson should dominate offensively nowadays.

As for *stopping* - in the old days, defenses like the '85 bear defense, the Baltimore defense, the tampa bay Kiffen defenses could stop offenses cold. As in 3 and out, and nowadays, you can have an offense be 3rd and 15 and with a running mobile QB, they con convert, so I think stopping these offenses is the wrong word, I think slowing them down is the better word.

That may be the biggest reason I'm not as enthusiastic about JG as some fans. The game is definitely changing to a more offensive game. As you pointed out, having a mobile QB can extend drives when it appears your defense has them stopped. Unfortunately that's one thing Jimmy can't do on any consistent basis. That not only can result in a score but it's deflating for the defense.

I used to think the running QBs couldn't last in the NFL but with rule changes and the uptempo option game that some of the college coaches have brought into the league, I've changed my mind. I think they may be here to stay unless there are some major rule changes that swing things back in favor of the defense. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Havent they been around since time without beginning?

Tarkenton
Cunningham
Young
Brunell
Culpepper
Kordell
Vick
McNair
Tebow
Kap
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