Who was the best QB the 49ers had in the last decade

Calling someone's well-supported opinion "laughable" is as backhandedly disrespectful as it gets though to simply express a disagreement. I already stated that I understand the reasonings for each perspective, and I even understand that I'm the minority, but I'm most certainly not the only one who feels this way, and I detailed why I think the way I do. To be frank, if you are incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes and seeing their perspective, especially when it comes to a minority opinion, you have no business responding to them.

The bottom line is, the question the OP posed asks your feelings on the caliber of these players. That question was answered. And I further clarified that I thought the guy was a certain caliber all along. You're free to disagree, but I'm not going to sit here and be told that I'm "lying" with the way I'm answering. Come TF on.

I apologize that my words were harsh. But the simple fact is, you are manipulating the spirit of the question in order to give the answer you are giving.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Calling someone's well-supported opinion "laughable" is as backhandedly disrespectful as it gets though to simply express a disagreement. I already stated that I understand the reasonings for each perspective, and I even understand that I'm the minority, but I'm most certainly not the only one who feels this way, and I detailed why I think the way I do. To be frank, if you are incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes and seeing their perspective, especially when it comes to a minority opinion, you have no business responding to them.

The bottom line is, the question the OP posed asks your feelings on the caliber of these players. That question was answered. And I further clarified that I thought the guy was a certain caliber all along. You're free to disagree, but I'm not going to sit here and be told that I'm "lying" with the way I'm answering. Come TF on.

Dude you're using career best numbers when Jimmy nor Kap ever got to play with the top rusher, top deep threat, and top TE (at the time).

You're boasting the record and efficiency stats of checkdown king that got carried so bad by 2 different SB contenders that they both had to let him go.

You may not be lying, but you're definitely being disingenuous.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

I apologize that my words were harsh. But the simple fact is, you are manipulating the spirit of the question in order to give the answer you are giving.

"Manipulating the spirit of the question"? You're the only one saying this about my response. Stop trying to tell me that I'm jumping through hoops to justify my answer, because it's simply not the case. I was as clear as I could be just saying that in my opinion, Alex was always a higher caliber player than I felt some were willing to give him credit for. Even the fact that he was winning, albeit ugly, with that turd team in Washington before he got hurt I thought was telling to at least some extent.

I have no problem admitting Kaepernick had plenty of positives, but I had concerns that eventually came to fruition before my own eyes. His struggles on short throws, struggles in calibrating velocity and ball trajectory, pre-snap reads/audibles, horrendous vision at times seeing guys open all over the field (this was a massive issue that pissed off many fans), and holding the ball too long eventually reared their ugly head.

None of this is said to absolve Smith of his own flaws, which have already been discuss ad nauseam. At the end of the day, I weighed the flaws and strengths of each player, and made my choice. I am not going to laugh at anyone's choice or mock anyone for thinking differently. It's okay to disagree, but it's not okay to backhandedly insult other's intelligence and integrity.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Even the fact that he was winning, albeit ugly, with that turd team in Washington before he got hurt I thought was telling to at least some extent.

No it wasn't, and the Washington fan base (who has been longing for a QB) would tell you the same. If you don't believe me, just PM me. I will send you countless links of threads full of Washington fans that were not impressed with Alex.

His 2018 in Washington, to me, proved that he wasn't any good. There wasn't elite talent at every position anymore, and his numbers reflected that. Doesn't matter how good Peterson or their defense was in their wins, Alex was awful.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

It's okay to disagree, but it's not okay to backhandedly insult other's intelligence and integrity.

If that's how you felt about my replies to you, then I apologize again. My intention was never to insult your intelligence or integrity.

Atl can't say Brett Favre was the best qb they had because of what Brett Favre did in Green Bay. This is just about us then you factor in the past decade and with Alex it's a very short span too. Just the 11-12 years. Kap/ Jimmy's body of work is longer, their individual stats are better, the teams went further. I'm sorry but Alex is not even in the conversation.

Overall sure you can argue Alex was the best of the 3 but people saw him as a game manager and he was ran out of town. He is KC's 2nd place qb of the decade so he's got that going for him.

It's a toss up between Kap and Jimmy with Kap getting the edge due to a higher peak/ better health.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

I get OTC's point but Atl can't say Brett Favre was the best qb they had because of what Brett Favre did in Green Bay. This is just about us then you factor in the past decade and with Alex it's a very short span too. Just the 11-12 years. Kap/ Jimmy's body of work is longer, their individual stats are better, the teams went further. I'm sorry he's not even in the conversation.

Overall sure you can argue Alex was the best of the 3 but people saw him as a game manager and he was ran out of town.

By 2 different teams that proceeded to go to the SB and put up 31 points

It's Jimmy G which is pretty sad. Kaep was a good athlete but mediocre passer. Jimmy is a good QB but gets hurt often and is very inconsistent.

Yeah that's a sad list.

This franchise needs to draft a franchise QB. A stud.

Give up the farm to try and get Fields.

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Atl can't say Brett Favre was the best qb they had because of what Brett Favre did in Green Bay. This is just about us then you factor in the past decade and with Alex it's a very short span too. Just the 11-12 years. Kap/ Jimmy's body of work is longer, their individual stats are better, the teams went further. I'm sorry but Alex is not even in the conversation.

Overall sure you can argue Alex was the best of the 3 but people saw him as a game manager and he was ran out of town. He is KC's 2nd place qb of the decade so he's got that going for him.

It's a toss up between Kap and Jimmy with Kap getting the edge due to a higher peak/ better health.

I respect your position for sure. To kind of address your post though, and absolutely clarify my position, I'm not saying "Alex is great because of what he went on to do in KC and beyond" -- my point that I've been trying to contend is that I always believed in Alex and thought I saw a better player than others did before he left to go anywhere else. I 100% acknowledge many don't feel that way, and have their reasons. I respect that. I just mentioned his accomplishments elsewhere because I feel like more other people starting to believe in him then. He wasn't on par with the best of the best, so of course he wasn't gonna be better than Mahomes who is arguably the best in the entire league now, but to me, I still thought he was pretty darn good.

On the Brett Favre example, although it doesn't apply to my position, I am not sure that would really be an apples to apples comp. Reason being, Brett never had any significant playing time with ATL -- in fact, he never even made a start for them.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

It's okay to disagree, but it's not okay to backhandedly insult other's intelligence and integrity.

If that's how you felt about my replies to you, then I apologize again. My intention was never to insult your intelligence or integrity.

All good, man. I know this is a heated topic. I probably shouldn't have gotten involved in this one lol.

Everyone knows the real answer but most hates to admit it. Lol

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Everyone knows the real answer but most hates to admit it. Lol

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