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Mar 17, 2021 at 2:25 PM
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Mar 17, 2021 at 2:39 PM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF? Can someone explain how Marquise Goodwin reverts back to the 49ers, and we end up losing our 7th round pick, when the trade was Goodwin and our 2020 6th for Philly's 2020 6th? Makes no sense.
Jason thanks for the explanation in the other thread bud. Def appreciate it.
Damn cap and all its complex super rules!
No worried bud
Mar 17, 2021 at 2:56 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Where are we at peeps for FA/Draft?
Team Needs: QB, IOL (C & RG), CB, ER (Speed), XWR (Speed), T (Future), SS, TE2, SWR, ST (Returner)
Draft Position Rankings: QB, OL, WR, Off-Ball LB, DL, CB, RB, TE & S (per Richard Shiro A/P)
Starter Needs: SS, DE
Backup Needs: RCB, LCB, Slot CB, PS CB x 2, SS, FS, G, RT, C, LT, TE, F receiver, Hback, RB, QB, 3T, DE, XWR, ZWR, Slot WR, FB, ST's core players/gunners, K, P
Mar 17, 2021 at 2:59 PM
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Where are we at peeps for FA/Draft?
Team Needs: QB, IOL (C & RG), CB, ER (Speed), XWR (Speed), T (Future), SS, TE2, SWR, ST (Returner)
Draft Position Rankings: QB, OL, WR, Off-Ball LB, DL, CB, RB, TE & S (per Richard Shiro A/P)
Starter Needs: SS, DE
Backup Needs: RCB, LCB, Slot CB, PS CB x 2, SS, FS, G, RT, C, LT, TE, F receiver, Hback, RB, QB, 3T, DE, XWR, ZWR, Slot WR, FB, ST's core players/gunners, K, P
That's a great way of looking at it. Starter vs. Depth need.
Mar 17, 2021 at 3:13 PM
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Updated 49ers roster. 70 players signed, the asterisk obviously means Richburg is gonna retire likely in June.
2021 49ers Roster:
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 2 Josh Rosen(2021)/ 1 Josh Johnson(2021)
RB: 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)/ 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2021)/ 38 JaMychal Hasty(2021)/ 48 Austin Walter(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025)/ 40 Josh Hokit(2021)
WR: 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023)/ 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 17 Travis Benjamin(2021)/ 17 Matt Cole(2021)/ 86 River Cracraft(2021)/ --- Austin Proehl(2021)/ 14 Kevin White(2021)/ 2 Chris Thompson(2021)/ 17 Jauan Jennings(2021)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2025)/ 82 Ross Dwelley(2021)/ 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)/ 83 Chase Harrell(2021)
C: --- Alex Mack(2021)/ 64 Jake Brendel(2021)/ 58 Weston Richburg(2022)*
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 60 Daniel Brunskill(2021)/ 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)/ 61 Dakoda Shepley(2021)/ 76 Isaiah Williams(2021)
OT: 71 Trent Williams(2026)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 67 Justin Skule(2022)/ 78 Shon Coleman(2021)/ --- Corbin Kaufuski(2021)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2024)/ 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ --- Samson Ebukam(2022)/ 77 Daeshon Hall(2021)/ 64 Alex Barrett(2021)
DT: 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)/ 90 Kevin Givens (2021)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
NT: 93 D.J. Jones(2021)/ 65 Darrion Daniels(2021)/ 77 Josiah Coatney(2021)
LB: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)/ 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2021)/ 5 Jonas Griffith(2021)
CB: 22 Jason Verrett(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2022)/ 35 Tim Harris Jr.(2021)/ --- Adonis Alexander(2021)/ 40 Ken Webster(2021)/ --- Mark Fields II
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)/ 43 Jared Mayden(2021)/ 43 Kai Nacua(2021)
SS: 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)/ 36 Marcell Harris(2021)/ 38 Chris Edwards(2021)/ --- Obi Melifonwu
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)
2021 49ers Roster:
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 2 Josh Rosen(2021)/ 1 Josh Johnson(2021)
RB: 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)/ 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2021)/ 38 JaMychal Hasty(2021)/ 48 Austin Walter(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025)/ 40 Josh Hokit(2021)
WR: 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023)/ 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 17 Travis Benjamin(2021)/ 17 Matt Cole(2021)/ 86 River Cracraft(2021)/ --- Austin Proehl(2021)/ 14 Kevin White(2021)/ 2 Chris Thompson(2021)/ 17 Jauan Jennings(2021)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2025)/ 82 Ross Dwelley(2021)/ 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)/ 83 Chase Harrell(2021)
C: --- Alex Mack(2021)/ 64 Jake Brendel(2021)/ 58 Weston Richburg(2022)*
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 60 Daniel Brunskill(2021)/ 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)/ 61 Dakoda Shepley(2021)/ 76 Isaiah Williams(2021)
OT: 71 Trent Williams(2026)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 67 Justin Skule(2022)/ 78 Shon Coleman(2021)/ --- Corbin Kaufuski(2021)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2024)/ 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ --- Samson Ebukam(2022)/ 77 Daeshon Hall(2021)/ 64 Alex Barrett(2021)
DT: 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)/ 90 Kevin Givens (2021)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
NT: 93 D.J. Jones(2021)/ 65 Darrion Daniels(2021)/ 77 Josiah Coatney(2021)
LB: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)/ 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2021)/ 5 Jonas Griffith(2021)
CB: 22 Jason Verrett(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2022)/ 35 Tim Harris Jr.(2021)/ --- Adonis Alexander(2021)/ 40 Ken Webster(2021)/ --- Mark Fields II
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)/ 43 Jared Mayden(2021)/ 43 Kai Nacua(2021)
SS: 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)/ 36 Marcell Harris(2021)/ 38 Chris Edwards(2021)/ --- Obi Melifonwu
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)
Mar 17, 2021 at 3:33 PM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated 49ers roster. 70 players signed, the asterisk obviously means Richburg is gonna retire likely in June.
2021 49ers Roster:
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 2 Josh Rosen(2021)/ 1 Josh Johnson(2021)
RB: 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)/ 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2021)/ 38 JaMychal Hasty(2021)/ 48 Austin Walter(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025)/ 40 Josh Hokit(2021)
WR: 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023)/ 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 17 Travis Benjamin(2021)/ 17 Matt Cole(2021)/ 86 River Cracraft(2021)/ --- Austin Proehl(2021)/ 14 Kevin White(2021)/ 2 Chris Thompson(2021)/ 17 Jauan Jennings(2021)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2025)/ 82 Ross Dwelley(2021)/ 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)/ 83 Chase Harrell(2021)
C: --- Alex Mack(2021)/ 64 Jake Brendel(2021)/ 58 Weston Richburg(2022)*
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 60 Daniel Brunskill(2021)/ 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)/ 61 Dakoda Shepley(2021)/ 76 Isaiah Williams(2021)
OT: 71 Trent Williams(2026)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 67 Justin Skule(2022)/ 78 Shon Coleman(2021)/ --- Corbin Kaufuski(2021)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2024)/ 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ --- Samson Ebukam(2022)/ 77 Daeshon Hall(2021)/ 64 Alex Barrett(2021)
DT: 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)/ 90 Kevin Givens (2021)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
NT: 93 D.J. Jones(2021)/ 65 Darrion Daniels(2021)/ 77 Josiah Coatney(2021)
LB: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)/ 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2021)/ 5 Jonas Griffith(2021)
CB: 22 Jason Verrett(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2022)/ 35 Tim Harris Jr.(2021)/ --- Adonis Alexander(2021)/ 40 Ken Webster(2021)/ --- Mark Fields II
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)/ 43 Jared Mayden(2021)/ 43 Kai Nacua(2021)
SS: 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)/ 36 Marcell Harris(2021)/ 38 Chris Edwards(2021)/ --- Obi Melifonwu
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)
So AB, no news on Dee? There was some talk about physicals ,etc, but that kind of died off. Any NEW news on his status? Or is April 1 the date for that?
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Mar 17, 2021 at 3:33 PM ]
Mar 17, 2021 at 3:36 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated 49ers roster. 70 players signed, the asterisk obviously means Richburg is gonna retire likely in June.
2021 49ers Roster:
OFFENSE:
QB: 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022)/ 2 Josh Rosen(2021)/ 1 Josh Johnson(2021)
RB: 31 Raheem Mostert(2021)/ 30 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2021)/ 38 JaMychal Hasty(2021)/ 48 Austin Walter(2021)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025)/ 40 Josh Hokit(2021)
WR: 19 Deebo Samuel(2022)/ 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023)/ 14 Jalen Hurd(2022)/ 13 Richie James Jr.(2021)/ 17 Travis Benjamin(2021)/ 17 Matt Cole(2021)/ 86 River Cracraft(2021)/ --- Austin Proehl(2021)/ 14 Kevin White(2021)/ 2 Chris Thompson(2021)/ 17 Jauan Jennings(2021)
TE: 85 George Kittle(2025)/ 82 Ross Dwelley(2021)/ 89 Charlie Woerner(2023)/ 83 Chase Harrell(2021)
C: --- Alex Mack(2021)/ 64 Jake Brendel(2021)/ 58 Weston Richburg(2022)*
OG: 75 Laken Tomlinson(2021)/ 60 Daniel Brunskill(2021)/ 68 Colton McKivitz(2023)/ 61 Dakoda Shepley(2021)/ 76 Isaiah Williams(2021)
OT: 71 Trent Williams(2026)/ 69 Mike McGlinchey(2021)/ 67 Justin Skule(2022)/ 78 Shon Coleman(2021)/ --- Corbin Kaufuski(2021)
DEFENSE:
DE: 97 Nick Bosa(2022)/ 91 Arik Armstead(2024)/ 55 Dee Ford(2023)/ --- Samson Ebukam(2022)/ 77 Daeshon Hall(2021)/ 64 Alex Barrett(2021)
DT: 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023)/ 90 Kevin Givens (2021)/ 95 Kentavius Street(2021)
NT: 93 D.J. Jones(2021)/ 65 Darrion Daniels(2021)/ 77 Josiah Coatney(2021)
LB: 54 Fred Warner(2021)/ 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022)/ 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2021)/ 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2021)/ 5 Jonas Griffith(2021)
CB: 22 Jason Verrett(2021)/ 41 Emmanuel Moseley(2022)/ 35 Tim Harris Jr.(2021)/ --- Adonis Alexander(2021)/ 40 Ken Webster(2021)/ --- Mark Fields II
FS: 20 Jimmie Ward(2022)/ 43 Jared Mayden(2021)/ 43 Kai Nacua(2021)
SS: 33 Tarvarius Moore(2021)/ 36 Marcell Harris(2021)/ 38 Chris Edwards(2021)/ --- Obi Melifonwu
SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P: 6 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS: 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)
So AB, no news on Dee? There was some talk about physicals ,etc, but that kind of died off. Any NEW news on his status? Or is April 1 the date for that?
He redid his deal, awaiting details, they likely saved between $5M-$10M.
Mar 17, 2021 at 3:37 PM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Starter Needs: SS, DE
Backup Needs: RCB, LCB, Slot CB, PS CB x 2, SS, FS, G, RT, C, LT, TE, F receiver, Hback, RB, QB, 3T, DE, XWR, ZWR, Slot WR, FB, ST's core players/gunners, K, P
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's a great way of looking at it. Starter vs. Depth need.
We need Edge so bad it's not funny. You just can't expect Bosa to come back 100% from an ACL in the first year. I hope we're having serious conversations because AZ is protecting their passer and LA has a new (better) one. Nothing cleans things up nicer than an unstoppable pass-rush.
Yeah, I like his strategy.
Mine might be (no QB option) like this per the strengths of the position groups:
Starter/Prominent Role (no order): RG, ER, CB & ST (Returner)
Depth/ST: QB, C, XWR (Speed), RT (Future), SS, TE2, SWR
Draft Position Rankings: QB, OL, WR, Off-Ball LB, DL, CB, RB, TE & S (per Richard Shiro A/P)
Who we've met with: Courtesy hummbabybear
Rashawn Slater OT Northwestern
Teven Jenkins OT Oklahoma State
Jermar Jefferson RB Oregon State
Pooka Williams RB Kansas
Javian Hawkins RB Louisville
Rondale Moore WR Purdue
Demetric Felton WR UCLA
Connor Wedington WR Stanford
Dax Milne WR BYU
Brevin Jordan TE Miami
Tommy Tremble TE Notre Dame
Greg Newsome CB Northwestern
Ifeatu Melifonwu CB Syracuse
Trill Williams CB Syracuse
Asante Samuel Jr. CB Florida State
Benjamin St. Juste CB Minnesota
Avery Williams CB Boise State
Deommodore Lenoir CB Oregon
Darren Hall CB San Diego State
Jacoby Stevens S LSU
Azeez Ojulari EDGE Georgia
Jonathan Cooper EDGE Ohio State
Daelin Hayes EDGE Notre Dame
Darius Stills DT West Virginia
Jamin Davis LB Kentucky
Evan McPherson K Florida
Looks like the big pools are CB & WR/TE with quality at T & ER. That means your first three picks will comprise of this pool: OL/WR/ER/CB.
On quality, the first pick will be either RT/RG Rashawn Slater, ER Azeez Ojulari or CB Asante Samuel Jr.
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 18, 2021 at 6:20 AM ]
Mar 17, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He redid his deal, awaiting details, they likely saved between $5M-$10M.
Well, that's something, but still...ouch. I would love to see him come back, but hx is against him. I assume that means he DID pass a physical? The problem is that if he is a "possible" that means there is some hope he can come back...but if not, he is not only eating cap, we are missing our ER. And that is twice as much pain. He either has them over a barrel OR, there really is hope he returns. Saving $5-10Mil....maybe that was the "meet in the middle " answer?
Mar 17, 2021 at 4:23 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He redid his deal, awaiting details, they likely saved between $5M-$10M.
Well, that's something, but still...ouch. I would love to see him come back, but hx is against him. I assume that means he DID pass a physical? The problem is that if he is a "possible" that means there is some hope he can come back...but if not, he is not only eating cap, we are missing our ER. And that is twice as much pain. He either has them over a barrel OR, there really is hope he returns. Saving $5-10Mil....maybe that was the "meet in the middle " answer?
It's better than having his $11.6M injury guarantee being fully GTD on April 1, and having a $20M cap hit, still too much, hopefully he can come back.
Mar 17, 2021 at 4:24 PM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
WTF? Can someone explain how Marquise Goodwin reverts back to the 49ers, and we end up losing our 7th round pick, when the trade was Goodwin and our 2020 6th for Philly's 2020 6th? Makes no sense.
Jason thanks for the explanation in the other thread bud. Def appreciate it.
Damn cap and all its complex super rules!
That's why Paraag makes more than you or me.
Mar 17, 2021 at 4:30 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He redid his deal, awaiting details, they likely saved between $5M-$10M.
Well, that's something, but still...ouch. I would love to see him come back, but hx is against him. I assume that means he DID pass a physical? The problem is that if he is a "possible" that means there is some hope he can come back...but if not, he is not only eating cap, we are missing our ER. And that is twice as much pain. He either has them over a barrel OR, there really is hope he returns. Saving $5-10Mil....maybe that was the "meet in the middle " answer?
I didn't hear that he passed a physical. I heard they did some restructuring because he isn't able to pass a physical.
Mar 17, 2021 at 4:31 PM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He redid his deal, awaiting details, they likely saved between $5M-$10M.
Well, that's something, but still...ouch. I would love to see him come back, but hx is against him. I assume that means he DID pass a physical? The problem is that if he is a "possible" that means there is some hope he can come back...but if not, he is not only eating cap, we are missing our ER. And that is twice as much pain. He either has them over a barrel OR, there really is hope he returns. Saving $5-10Mil....maybe that was the "meet in the middle " answer?
I didn't hear that he passed a physical. I heard they did some restructuring because he isn't able to pass a physical.
Yeah most likely due to him not being able to pass a physical, so they did a restructure, hoping it was more of a pay cut.
Mar 18, 2021 at 1:26 PM
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Mar 18, 2021 at 1:46 PM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He redid his deal, awaiting details, they likely saved between $5M-$10M.
Well, that's something, but still...ouch. I would love to see him come back, but hx is against him. I assume that means he DID pass a physical? The problem is that if he is a "possible" that means there is some hope he can come back...but if not, he is not only eating cap, we are missing our ER. And that is twice as much pain. He either has them over a barrel OR, there really is hope he returns. Saving $5-10Mil....maybe that was the "meet in the middle " answer?
I didn't hear that he passed a physical. I heard they did some restructuring because he isn't able to pass a physical.
Yeah most likely due to him not being able to pass a physical, so they did a restructure, hoping it was more of a pay cut.
That was really the question AB, but just said a bit differently. Interesting about NOT being able to pass the physical...so he stays with less money. That is a semi- win for us, i guess...but we'll take it. Better than it was. Still we are paying for a guy not out there and the position is EDGE. That is the painful part.