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Originally posted by NCommand:
Front Office Opportunities for Improvement:
1. Ditch the moneyball department and philosophy. The ROI on this team is horrendous and it starts with targeting and extending players they can "win" in the contract negotiations (i.e. sign Garoppolo after only 5 games because you can add in annual rip cords and low GTD $, or draft red-flag players like Kinlaw later in a round, or spend millions on players like Verrett, Tartt, Alexander, etc.). The system has completely failed and in fact, has cost them way more in the end than just cap space. Add up all the cost of just losing Verrett and you could have just paid for a top healthy FA CB.
2. Find or promote a modern-day GM that has a full background in pro scout and pro personnel and who is respected enough to hold Kyle accountable for the product on the field. This includes retaining s**tty coaches and players he has personal relationships with and being ill-prepared, poor football IQ, no to poor contingency plans, getting out coached, clock and game/situational awareness, zero accountability for players, etc. This guy should be part of the younger crowd who believes in trades and actively seeks these out.
3. Hire a new strength and conditioning team and revamp the entire soft practice philosophy. Study up and learn from perennial healthy teams. Ditch the entire medical team. This has been the Achilles heel for two decades here.

Overall, the FO targets players they can "win" in contract negotiations (Paraag FTW!) and value in draft picks (Foster & Kinlaw), panics and overdrafts at the top of the draft (Aiyuk, Pettis & Wishnowsky) for specific players but lets the draft come to them in the later rounds (where they have far more success). Draft and development also seems to be a divide on this team as well and they not only invest top dollars at key positions and get low ROI but they rarely have any contingency plans for when those positions are lost to injuries; they drop off at crucial positions is enormous (Richburg and Mack to scrubs with no talents rookie developing to take over some day learning from the veterans). These ever-changing weekly lineups d/t lost snap counts lead to key losses in important games and being the 2nd most team in football for 9 straight years means the medical staff, S&C team and practice and without regime is a massive fail as is the player acquisitions they target for these systems.

There also doesn't appear to be much accountability for Kyle as he continues to make the same mistakes over and over and his loyalty to friends/coaches has cost him dearly. Kyle seems to only be able to win one way and he and his staff are lost when things go outside structure where we just saw coaches like Pete and Bill adjust to win with a poor roster or challenging weather conditions, respectively. Kyle's teams continue to find new and creative ways to lose and that's a sign of an undisciplined team and one that greatly lacks in football IQ.

PS: You can bet your ass the FO is licking their chops to resign Mike McGlinchey coming off a major career-threatening injury to win that contract. Then, pay close attention to the full ripple effect of this move going forward from cap $ spent on RT, to if he plays in the off season, to how he plays to start the season, to the development snaps of his backup, to who his backup even is, the inevitable in-season scramble when there is a medical flare up, to effects on the the weekly scheme, in-out of the lineup effects, etc.

Eventually, this has become our true culture.

I think to a certain extent, they have addressed your concerns.
1. I think they have changed their draft philosophy, Huf at round 5 vs Kentavius at round 4 (for example) Arden Key, Ebukam, Omenihu vs often injured and highly talented Dee Ford.
2. I think with the greater involvement of Kyle's dad, that's something that (I think) is going to develop further this year. I think the Front office is (to a certain extent) beginning to rely more and more on Kyle's dad to help out in them convincing Kyle to stop trading up for picks when he can (as you said) let the draft come to him like after the 4th rounds.
3. I think they can do a lot more in this area, definitely, and I think the missing component is the mental side of any injury. In the case of Bosa, how he attacked his re-hab mentally. In the case of drafting and acquiring players, they need to pay attention to more of the mental side of the talent equation. Do they work out in the offseason, do they stay in shape, do they do the things in the offseason that make them healthier during the regular season?
Re: McGlinchy, I think how they approach this player - whether they sign him, trade him, keep him and trade him or just let him go is going to be a big indicator for me, of how they have changed their way of evaluating injuries. We shall see.

Agree, I hope they go the way of the '86 draft and draft specifically for depth as another way of addressing the injury situation (in a different way than just dealing with it from the trainer/rehab diagnosis side). Yes, get the best medical personnel and definitely study the best practices with regards to injury prevention and recovery, but on the draft/player acquisition side - they have to get more depth. Again, instead of getting one Jerry Rice and two JJ Stokes, I'd rather get three Dwight Clarks. I.e. I'd rather have three good players vs one outstanding player and two mediocre ones, for *every position* on the team.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I know this is from early December, but how was Aiyuk an overdraft? He's proven he was well worth being picked where he was.

I don't get why you're so caught up on some deals like Dee, Kwon, Verrett, & Tartt, Dee yes ended up a bad deal, Kwon was good for the first 8 games, then Dre made him expendable, we didn't really waste money on him, Verrett was only ever 1 semi-big deal, 1yr $5M this year, it was worth the try, I think you liked him, it didn't work out, just let him walk, no biggie, as I've said, the biggest issue cap wise was the pandemic, the cap went down by $15.7M, it should have went to $215M ish, then $230M in 2022, now it's $208.2M in 2022 max. Not sure what's wrong with Tartt, he didn't get a huge deal when they extended him, and he signed a 1yr vet minimum deal this past offseason.

As for Kinlaw, let's wait & see how he looks post surgery, same surgeon who did Bosa's ACL did Kinlaw, so that gives me hope. I agree Pettis was a reach, as was Hurd. Was Wish, maybe? NE may have taken him, I didn't like a 4th rd P, but it is what it is.

No way is John wanting to sign injured players to big money deals, you and others need to get that out of your heads, McGlinchey was having a good season before his injury, he'll play 2022, if he's good, he's back on a cheaper deal, if not, he's gone. Moore can fill in at RT IMO.

Let's not overvalue our own again. Aiyuk is coming around but he's only given us 650 yards this year. That's pretty replaceable production. But it was more about moving UP for him in a super deep year of receivers and those taken 'after' him have produced far more. It's just an example of how they panic, give up draft capital and overdraft players instead of letting the board fall to them. Just an example.

I'm caught up on ALL of their deals and their strategies for searching for and retaining those players and laid out clearly why this strategy has failed them time and time again.

As to this comment:

No way is John wanting to sign injured players to big money deals...

That's literally what he's done, hence my overarching concerns.

We aren't exactly known to sling the ball around. Jimmy G is bottom 5 in passing attempts. If the QB has that few passing attempts and there is a receiver on the team with 1200 yards and a TE that is like 150 yards away from 1000, how many yards do you think the other receiver is going to have?

Personally I think this team has the guys to be more of a threat passing the ball, but we don't have a QB that can pull the trigger- by using every part of the field on his throws.

We saw it last year and are seeing it this year. Aiyuk is a good pick and I suspect will be even more dangerous with Trey at the helm.

One could argue that there wasn't a need for a 1st round receiver, but if you think of our situation going into the 2020 draft, we were letting Sanders walk and NO ONE saw this kind of dominance coming from Deebo. We have two good receivers starting who are on rookie deals for the first time since Mariucci. Aiyuk is not on the list of questionable FO decisions. There are 50 things we could get into before we get to Aiyuk.

Yeah, agreed.

This was just an example of them locking on to "our guy" and overpaying, and often times, over valuing them...their common and documented strategy. Not really about what Aiyuk himself, could be in the future with a different QB.

But i love your point about properly measuring production within the context of the offense (or defense) itself. A #2 WR here ending with 750 yards might be the equivalent of a 1K season on a more pass-centric, wide open spread offense with a QB the offense and skill positions are built around. Excellent point.

The inverse would be RB's and run blocking (grades) in our current system and 3rd down and RZ efficiency.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 1, 2022 at 9:01 AM ]
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
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Let's not overvalue our own again. Aiyuk is coming around but he's only given us 650 yards this year. That's pretty replaceable production. But it was more about moving UP for him in a super deep year of receivers and those taken 'after' him have produced far more. It's just an example of how they panic, give up draft capital and overdraft players instead of letting the board fall to them. Just an example.

I'm caught up on ALL of their deals and their strategies for searching for and retaining those players and laid out clearly why this strategy has failed them time and time again.

As to this comment:

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That's literally what he's done, hence my overarching concerns.

We aren't exactly known to sling the ball around. Jimmy G is bottom 5 in passing attempts. If the QB has that few passing attempts and there is a receiver on the team with 1200 yards and a TE that is like 150 yards away from 1000, how many yards do you think the other receiver is going to have?

Personally I think this team has the guys to be more of a threat passing the ball, but we don't have a QB that can pull the trigger- by using every part of the field on his throws.

We saw it last year and are seeing it this year. Aiyuk is a good pick and I suspect will be even more dangerous with Trey at the helm.

One could argue that there wasn't a need for a 1st round receiver, but if you think of our situation going into the 2020 draft, we were letting Sanders walk and NO ONE saw this kind of dominance coming from Deebo. We have two good receivers starting who are on rookie deals for the first time since Mariucci. Aiyuk is not on the list of questionable FO decisions. There are 50 things we could get into before we get to Aiyuk.

Yeah, agreed.

This was just an example of them locking on to "our guy" and overpaying, and often times, over valuing them...their common and documented strategy. Not really about what Aiyuk himself, could be in the future with a different QB.

But i love your point about properly measuring production within the context of the offense (or defense) itself. A #2 WR here ending with 750 yards might be the equivalent of a 1K season on a more pass-centric, wide open spread offense with a QB the offense and skill positions are built around. Excellent point.

The inverse would be RB's and run blocking (grades) in our current system and 3rd down and RZ efficiency.

I think they do a good job, as you said, valuing the day three picks. While you do have a point regarding overvaluing the day one and two picks from ShanaLynch, I think one reason they do it is because they do see the players they pick in day one and two as system fits as well as talent. That's a good reason for overvaluing them - again to a certain extent. However, your point is still valid that - they should take into account that *no one else* might value them as ShanaLYnch does and that may be a risk worth exploring.

Specially if they decide to go with depth of talent vs trying to get outstanding talent. (ie three good players vs one great and two good players).
Who ARE the 49ers after 18 weeks?

It's funny, when you go down the list of areas that tend to cost this team wins or make them harder than they need to be, let's review this epic Rams win in the same TEAM perspective I've done all year. Let's look at their strengths too!

🤟 - Outstanding
👍- A positive
👎- Same ol' issue
🖕- FU! bad

Team Weakneses:
👍 Pass interference - Lead the league in P.I.'s with 19
🤟 Defense can't generate TO's
🤟 Defense fails late in games
👎 Defense struggles taking a team's best player away
👎 3rd down pass defense
👎 Offensive TO's lead to points the other way
👎 Offensive TO's take points off the board
👎 Offensive penalties at crucial times (false starts, holdings, delays, etc.)
👎 Receiver drops
👎 Boneheaded team penalties at key moments
👎 Kyle is bipolar with play calling
👍 Kyle struggles with clock management at times
👎 Kyle gets too cute or too conservative at times
👎 Slow starts; poor second half adjustments
👍 Must run 35+ times to have a chance to win
👍 Unit pass protection - Colton McKivitz, Tom Compton & Daniel Brunskill (RB's, FB and TE's)
🖕 Too many key injuries at key positions at key times
👍 SpecialED teams

Team Strengths:
👍 RZ % - leads the NFL
🤟 Clutch points - leads the NFL
🤟 DL - #1 in the NFL since week 6 (Armstead moved inside)
🤟 2nd half come backs
🤟 Running game
🤟 Versatility/creative play calling
🤟 Next man up mentally
👍 Timely blitzes

Any others????
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 15, 2022 at 5:47 AM ]
The regular season is over. So what are your team needs? Priorities?

Player Pool ATM:

Offensive Personnel:
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Trey Lance & Nate Sudfeld
RB: Elijah Mitchell; Raheem Mostert, Trey Sermon, Jeff Wilson Jr., Jamycal Hasty, Trenton Cannon & Brian Hill
FB: Kyle Juszczyk; Josh Hokit
TE: George Kittle; Charlie Woerner, Ross Dwelley, Jordan Matthews & Tanner Hudson,
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Trent Sherfield & Travis Benjamin
SWR: Jauan Jennings; Richie James, River Cracraft, Connor Wedington & Austin Mack
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Mohamed Sanu & Devin Funchess
LT: Trent Williams; Colton McKivitz & Alfredo Gutierrez
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Jon Halapio
C: Alex Mack; Jake Brendel
RG: Daniel Brunskill; Aaron Banks & Wyatt Miller
RT: Tom Compton; Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore & Justin Skule

Defensive Personnel:
LDE/W9: Samson Ebukam; Charles Omenihu & Alex Barrett
2i: D.J. Jones; Arden Key, Maurice Hurst & Darrion Daniels
3T: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw, Kentavius Street, Kevin Givens & Chris Slayton
RDE/W9: Nick Bosa; Jordan Willis & Dee Ford
SAM: Azeez Al-Shaair; Marcell Harris & Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner; Curtis Robinson
WILL: Dre Greenlaw; Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
RCB: Emmanuel Moseley; Deommodore Lenoir, Luq Barcoo & Lavert Hill
SCB: K'Waun Williams; Dontae Johnson & Darqueze Dennard
LCB: Ambry Thomas; Jason Verrett, Josh Norman & Alexander Myers
FS: Jimmie Ward; Tarvarius Moore, Tavon Wilson, Tony Jefferson, Jarrod Wilson & Kai Nacua
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Talanoa Hufanga & Doug Middleton

Special Teams:
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky; Ryan Winslow
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 15, 2022 at 6:26 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
The regular season is over. So what are your team needs? Priorities?

Player Pool ATM:

Offensive Personnel:
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Trey Lance & Nate Sudfeld
RB: Elijah Mitchell; Raheem Mostert, Trey Sermon, Jeff Wilson Jr., Jamycal Hasty, Trenton Cannon & Brian Hill
FB: Kyle Juszczyk; Josh Hokit
TE: George Kittle; Charlie Woerner, Ross Dwelley, Jordan Matthews & Tanner Hudson,
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Trent Sherfield & Travis Benjamin
SWR: Jauan Jennings; Richie James, River Cracraft, Connor Wedington & Austin Mack
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel; Mohamed Sanu & Devin Funchess
LT: Trent Williams; Colton McKivitz & Alfredo Gutierrez
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Jon Halapio
C: Alex Mack; Jake Brendel
RG: Daniel Brunskill; Aaron Banks & Wyatt Miller
RT: Tom Compton; Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore & Justin Skule

Defensive Personnel:
LDE/W9: Samson Ebukam; Charles Omenihu & Alex Barrett
2i: D.J. Jones; Arden Key, Maurice Hurst & Darrion Daniels
3T: Arik Armstead; Javon Kinlaw, Kentavius Street, Kevin Givens & Chris Slayton
RDE/W9: Nick Bosa; Jordan Willis & Dee Ford
SAM: Azeez Al-Shaair; Marcell Harris & Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner; Curtis Robinson
WILL: Dre Greenlaw; Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles
RCB: Emmanuel Moseley; Deommodore Lenoir, Luq Barcoo & Lavert Hill
SCB: K'Waun Williams; Dontae Johnson & Darqueze Dennard
LCB: Ambry Thomas; Jason Verrett, Josh Norman & Alexander Myers
FS: Jimmie Ward; Tarvarius Moore, Tavon Wilson, Tony Jefferson, Jarrod Wilson & Kai Nacua
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Talanoa Hufanga & Doug Middleton

Special Teams:
LS: Taybor Pepper
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky; Ryan Winslow

it really depends on who we resign we have a lot of guys id like to lock up

but as the team stands now

1) EDGE
2) IOL (RG)
3) ST returner
4) veteran CB depth

This is assuming we resign all our FA though
Originally posted by ritz126:
it really depends on who we resign we have a lot of guys id like to lock up

but as the team stands now

1) EDGE
2) IOL (RG)
3) ST returner
4) veteran CB depth

This is assuming we resign all our FA though

Nice. What about T with Mike McGlinchey?
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ritz126:
it really depends on who we resign we have a lot of guys id like to lock up

but as the team stands now

1) EDGE
2) IOL (RG)
3) ST returner
4) veteran CB depth

This is assuming we resign all our FA though

Nice. What about T with Mike McGlinchey?

I think the McGlinchy injury (and to a certain extent the Trent Williams sprained elbow injury) is kind of telling the 49ers that the OLine should be one of the spots that they need to put some draft capital in. I agree with Ritz126 - Edge, OLine (RG and Center would be my focus), and a ST returner - preferrable a WR burner with Goodwin-like speed and some YAC wiggle, on day 3.

Back to OLine - Banks and Moore - we don't know who they are yet, so give them this next year to showcase their talent (if they do have talent) so I'm thinking Banks and Moore are projected to be Tackle (Moore) and Guard (Banks) so that leaves Center. I'd use our highest pick (a 2nd rounder) on a center. If we get some good compensation for Jimmy, then use that compensation for edge. I think if we can sign Arden, and some of the more recent Edge free agents on the team (Ebukam, Willis, Omenihu) I think the edge position has the depth it needs even if we do lose Bosa to a ding or two during the 2022 season. I'd still use our next high round pick on edge, if there is one at that spot. So on to ST (preferably a WR) for Trey to use his Howitzer arm for.

A lot of the draft depends on how the Free Agency period develops (assuming we win a super bowl - huge big assumption there) this team will get raided and all the promising free agents (and possibly some assistant coaches) we have will be gone, and pretty much a rebuild will be going on in 2022. I doubt we will retain a guy like Arden for example, if we get into a bidding war with some bottom feeding teams with cap space.
My updated offseason plan, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022-offseason-plan/

Key Moves:

Re-Signings:

RB Jeff Wilson Jr. - 2yr $5M ($2.5M APY)
RB JaMycal Hasty - $895K ERFA tender
RB Trenton Cannon - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
WR Jauan Jennings - $825K ERFA tender
WR Trent Sherfield - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
WR River Cracraft - 1yr $965K
C Jake Brendel - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
LG Laken Tomlinson - 4yr $32M($8M APY)
LG Colton McKivitz - $895K ERFA tender
RG Daniel Brunskill - 1yr $1.265M
RT Tom Compton - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
DE Arden Key - 4yr $24M ($6M APY)
DE Jordan Willis - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
DT Kentavius Street - 1yr $1.265M
DT Kevin Givens - $895K ERFA tender
NT D.J. Jones - 5yr $30M ($6M APY)
SLB Azeez Al-Shaair - 3yr $10.5M ($3.5M APY)
SLB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles - $895K ERFA tender
CB K'Waun Williams - 3yr $18M ($6M APY)
FS Tarvarius Moore - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
SS Jaquiski Tartt - 1yr $1,272,500 Fourth Year Qualifying Contract (Gets $2.37M base, but only $1.12M counts)

Extensions:

WR Deebo Samuel - 5yr $102.5M ($20.5M APY)
DE Nick Bosa - 5yr $152.5M ($30.5M APY)
WLB Dre Greenlaw - 4yr $14M ($3.5M APY)

Trades/Releases:

QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Let Walk:

RB Raheem Mostert
WR Travis Benjamin
WR Mohamed Sanu Sr.
WR Richie James Jr.
CB Josh Norman
FS Tavon Wilson
FS Jarrod Wilson

Unsure of(50/50, players I like, but we can get better, only 1yr veteran minimum benefit deals):

TE Ross Dwelley
DT Maurice Hurst Jr.
WLB Marcell Harris
CB Dontae Johnson

Yes, I know I have a lot of guys back, 71 signed under my plan, but remember that we have 31 signed right now for 2022, add in the 20 PS players, with most of them to just be cut when we sign our UDFAs, happens every year, add in the 5 ERFAs & 4 RFAs, all will be tendered or re-signed, that's 59 before the UFAs being signed back, 7 are veteran minimum benefit deals, just 5 multi-year deals, so there's your 71 players, and again those PS players, not all may be signed, but either way, most will end up being cut anyway when we sign UDFAs.

Needs IMO, in no order.

#2 QB (Tyrod Taylor maybe? 1yr up-to $10M, $5M cap hit)
Future C
Young EDGE opposite Bosa
CB depth(both young & veteran)
KR/PR (Speedy WR)

I'm not worried about RG, I have faith in Aaron Banks, as for RT, I see Jaylon Moore or Tom Compton if McGlinchey can't go, we won't be able to move on from him.

I'd also look into extending Ward, Moseley, & maybe Ebukam(gonna need to reduce his salary), can create room by redoing guys like Kittle & Armstead.

IMO, this should be the teams priorities in the offseason.

Extend Deebo, Bosa, & Dre
Re-Sign(Multi yr deals) J.Wilson, Laken, Key, Jones, Al-Shaair, & K'Waun

And yes, this is all possible.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by ritz126:
it really depends on who we resign we have a lot of guys id like to lock up

but as the team stands now

1) EDGE
2) IOL (RG)
3) ST returner
4) veteran CB depth

This is assuming we resign all our FA though

Nice. What about T with Mike McGlinchey?

I think the McGlinchy injury (and to a certain extent the Trent Williams sprained elbow injury) is kind of telling the 49ers that the OLine should be one of the spots that they need to put some draft capital in. I agree with Ritz126 - Edge, OLine (RG and Center would be my focus), and a ST returner - preferrable a WR burner with Goodwin-like speed and some YAC wiggle, on day 3.

Back to OLine - Banks and Moore - we don't know who they are yet, so give them this next year to showcase their talent (if they do have talent) so I'm thinking Banks and Moore are projected to be Tackle (Moore) and Guard (Banks) so that leaves Center. I'd use our highest pick (a 2nd rounder) on a center. If we get some good compensation for Jimmy, then use that compensation for edge. I think if we can sign Arden, and some of the more recent Edge free agents on the team (Ebukam, Willis, Omenihu) I think the edge position has the depth it needs even if we do lose Bosa to a ding or two during the 2022 season. I'd still use our next high round pick on edge, if there is one at that spot. So on to ST (preferably a WR) for Trey to use his Howitzer arm for.

A lot of the draft depends on how the Free Agency period develops (assuming we win a super bowl - huge big assumption there) this team will get raided and all the promising free agents (and possibly some assistant coaches) we have will be gone, and pretty much a rebuild will be going on in 2022. I doubt we will retain a guy like Arden for example, if we get into a bidding war with some bottom feeding teams with cap space.

I honestly don't see Key getting these high offers like some think he will, people thought Hyder would, he didn't, he only got $3.5M a yr, I'd go $6M for Key.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly don't see Key getting these high offers like some think he will, people thought Hyder would, he didn't, he only got $3.5M a yr, I'd go $6M for Key.


Originally posted by AB81Rules:
My updated offseason plan, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022-offseason-plan/

Key Moves:

Re-Signings:

RB Jeff Wilson Jr. - 2yr $5M ($2.5M APY)
RB JaMycal Hasty - $895K ERFA tender
RB Trenton Cannon - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
WR Jauan Jennings - $825K ERFA tender
WR Trent Sherfield - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
WR River Cracraft - 1yr $965K
C Jake Brendel - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
LG Laken Tomlinson - 4yr $32M($8M APY)
LG Colton McKivitz - $895K ERFA tender
RG Daniel Brunskill - 1yr $1.265M
RT Tom Compton - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
DE Arden Key - 4yr $24M ($6M APY)
DE Jordan Willis - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
DT Kentavius Street - 1yr $1.265M
DT Kevin Givens - $895K ERFA tender
NT D.J. Jones - 5yr $30M ($6M APY)
SLB Azeez Al-Shaair - 3yr $10.5M ($3.5M APY)
SLB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles - $895K ERFA tender
CB K'Waun Williams - 3yr $18M ($6M APY)
FS Tarvarius Moore - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
SS Jaquiski Tartt - 1yr $1,272,500 Fourth Year Qualifying Contract (Gets $2.37M base, but only $1.12M counts)

Extensions:

WR Deebo Samuel - 5yr $102.5M ($20.5M APY)
DE Nick Bosa - 5yr $152.5M ($30.5M APY)
WLB Dre Greenlaw - 4yr $14M ($3.5M APY)

Trades/Releases:

QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Let Walk:

RB Raheem Mostert
WR Travis Benjamin
WR Mohamed Sanu Sr.
WR Richie James Jr.
CB Josh Norman
FS Tavon Wilson
FS Jarrod Wilson

Unsure of(50/50, players I like, but we can get better, only 1yr veteran minimum benefit deals):

TE Ross Dwelley
DT Maurice Hurst Jr.
WLB Marcell Harris
CB Dontae Johnson

Yes, I know I have a lot of guys back, 71 signed under my plan, but remember that we have 31 signed right now for 2022, add in the 20 PS players, with most of them to just be cut when we sign our UDFAs, happens every year, add in the 5 ERFAs & 4 RFAs, all will be tendered or re-signed, that's 59 before the UFAs being signed back, 7 are veteran minimum benefit deals, just 5 multi-year deals, so there's your 71 players, and again those PS players, not all may be signed, but either way, most will end up being cut anyway when we sign UDFAs.

Needs IMO, in no order.

#2 QB (Tyrod Taylor maybe? 1yr up-to $10M, $5M cap hit)
Future C
Young EDGE opposite Bosa
CB depth(both young & veteran)
KR/PR (Speedy WR)

I'm not worried about RG, I have faith in Aaron Banks, as for RT, I see Jaylon Moore or Tom Compton if McGlinchey can't go, we won't be able to move on from him.

I'd also look into extending Ward, Moseley, & maybe Ebukam(gonna need to reduce his salary), can create room by redoing guys like Kittle & Armstead.

IMO, this should be the teams priorities in the offseason.

Extend Deebo, Bosa, & Dre
Re-Sign(Multi yr deals) J.Wilson, Laken, Key, Jones, Al-Shaair, & K'Waun

And yes, this is all possible.

DANG! I counted 32 free agents worth keeping on your post. That's *A LOT* - I didn't know it was that much. That's a ton of information to digest. Give me a month!
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I honestly don't see Key getting these high offers like some think he will, people thought Hyder would, he didn't, he only got $3.5M a yr, I'd go $6M for Key.


Originally posted by AB81Rules:
My updated offseason plan, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022-offseason-plan/

Key Moves:

Re-Signings:

RB Jeff Wilson Jr. - 2yr $5M ($2.5M APY)
RB JaMycal Hasty - $895K ERFA tender
RB Trenton Cannon - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
WR Jauan Jennings - $825K ERFA tender
WR Trent Sherfield - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
WR River Cracraft - 1yr $965K
C Jake Brendel - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
LG Laken Tomlinson - 4yr $32M($8M APY)
LG Colton McKivitz - $895K ERFA tender
RG Daniel Brunskill - 1yr $1.265M
RT Tom Compton - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
DE Arden Key - 4yr $24M ($6M APY)
DE Jordan Willis - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
DT Kentavius Street - 1yr $1.265M
DT Kevin Givens - $895K ERFA tender
NT D.J. Jones - 5yr $30M ($6M APY)
SLB Azeez Al-Shaair - 3yr $10.5M ($3.5M APY)
SLB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles - $895K ERFA tender
CB K'Waun Williams - 3yr $18M ($6M APY)
FS Tarvarius Moore - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
SS Jaquiski Tartt - 1yr $1,272,500 Fourth Year Qualifying Contract (Gets $2.37M base, but only $1.12M counts)

Extensions:

WR Deebo Samuel - 5yr $102.5M ($20.5M APY)
DE Nick Bosa - 5yr $152.5M ($30.5M APY)
WLB Dre Greenlaw - 4yr $14M ($3.5M APY)

Trades/Releases:

QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Let Walk:

RB Raheem Mostert
WR Travis Benjamin
WR Mohamed Sanu Sr.
WR Richie James Jr.
CB Josh Norman
FS Tavon Wilson
FS Jarrod Wilson

Unsure of(50/50, players I like, but we can get better, only 1yr veteran minimum benefit deals):

TE Ross Dwelley
DT Maurice Hurst Jr.
WLB Marcell Harris
CB Dontae Johnson

Yes, I know I have a lot of guys back, 71 signed under my plan, but remember that we have 31 signed right now for 2022, add in the 20 PS players, with most of them to just be cut when we sign our UDFAs, happens every year, add in the 5 ERFAs & 4 RFAs, all will be tendered or re-signed, that's 59 before the UFAs being signed back, 7 are veteran minimum benefit deals, just 5 multi-year deals, so there's your 71 players, and again those PS players, not all may be signed, but either way, most will end up being cut anyway when we sign UDFAs.

Needs IMO, in no order.

#2 QB (Tyrod Taylor maybe? 1yr up-to $10M, $5M cap hit)
Future C
Young EDGE opposite Bosa
CB depth(both young & veteran)
KR/PR (Speedy WR)

I'm not worried about RG, I have faith in Aaron Banks, as for RT, I see Jaylon Moore or Tom Compton if McGlinchey can't go, we won't be able to move on from him.

I'd also look into extending Ward, Moseley, & maybe Ebukam(gonna need to reduce his salary), can create room by redoing guys like Kittle & Armstead.

IMO, this should be the teams priorities in the offseason.

Extend Deebo, Bosa, & Dre
Re-Sign(Multi yr deals) J.Wilson, Laken, Key, Jones, Al-Shaair, & K'Waun

And yes, this is all possible.

DANG! I counted 32 free agents worth keeping on your post. That's *A LOT* - I didn't know it was that much. That's a ton of information to digest. Give me a month!

I know, a good amount of guys I love to keep, but can't keep them all, just hope they retain Key, DJ, K'Waun, & Laken on multi yr deals, then extend Deebo, Nick, & Dre, also give Al-Shaair a multi yr deal, the ERFAs aren't going anywhere(Hasty, Jennings, Givens, McKivitz, & DFF), nor are the RFAs(Brunskill & Street), if Al-Shaair isn't signed before FA, he'll get the 2nd rd tender so we don't lose him, Brunskill idk if he gets tendered, as for Street, the $2.54M tender would give us a 4th, so I doubt someone gives a 4th for Street, but I want both back anyway.
Who is Halapio? He must have years in the league to make above the min, although he just get practice squad dollars?
Well done AB! I agree we have alot of talent and depth that I dont want to lose out on, especially on the DL... some of these guys haven't got their chance yet with health and opportunity. The late season surge has me not focusing on the draft yet, but there are a few must adds:

KR/PR/WR4/5- We must get a small slot type who has SPEED and ability to be a jitter bug for ST returns and YAC on slants.

CB- FA or draft, primarily FA, to be ready so our young DB's can come along. I believe Thomas can be a good starter if he can learn to turn his head and play the ball. Resign K'wuan and keep nickle locked down. Get Lenoir coached up to play nickel as his primary role.

OL- Mack is good, but he's a ticking time bomb at this age, we need to bring in a young athletic OC to be a journeyman and take over in 23'. OG, we have some talent to groom and I feel comfortable with that next season, see what we have. Wait to invest in a starting OG in 23' draft.

Edge- This draft is deep and lets take a shot on someone in Rd 4-5 who needs some grooming, resigning Arden Key is a must.

S- I want to add more talent here, zero clue on options in FA or draft, but we really need to add some talent here.

RB- This is our bread and butter and Lance will need a healthy list of RB's to take pressure off him. I'd like to see us get a bruising back for the tough yards and a pass catching speed back in the later rounds of the draft.

Enjoy the game today folks, this is a special moment!!!!
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
My updated offseason plan, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022-offseason-plan/

Key Moves:

Re-Signings:

RB Jeff Wilson Jr. - 2yr $5M ($2.5M APY)
RB JaMycal Hasty - $895K ERFA tender
RB Trenton Cannon - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
WR Jauan Jennings - $825K ERFA tender
WR Trent Sherfield - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
WR River Cracraft - 1yr $965K
C Jake Brendel - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
LG Laken Tomlinson - 4yr $32M($8M APY)
LG Colton McKivitz - $895K ERFA tender
RG Daniel Brunskill - 1yr $1.265M
RT Tom Compton - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
DE Arden Key - 4yr $24M ($6M APY)
DE Jordan Willis - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
DT Kentavius Street - 1yr $1.265M
DT Kevin Givens - $895K ERFA tender
NT D.J. Jones - 5yr $30M ($6M APY)
SLB Azeez Al-Shaair - 3yr $10.5M ($3.5M APY)
SLB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles - $895K ERFA tender
CB K'Waun Williams - 3yr $18M ($6M APY)
FS Tarvarius Moore - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
SS Jaquiski Tartt - 1yr $1,272,500 Fourth Year Qualifying Contract (Gets $2.37M base, but only $1.12M counts)

Extensions:

WR Deebo Samuel - 5yr $102.5M ($20.5M APY)
DE Nick Bosa - 5yr $152.5M ($30.5M APY)
WLB Dre Greenlaw - 4yr $14M ($3.5M APY)

Trades/Releases:

QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Let Walk:

RB Raheem Mostert
WR Travis Benjamin
WR Mohamed Sanu Sr.
WR Richie James Jr.
CB Josh Norman
FS Tavon Wilson
FS Jarrod Wilson

Unsure of(50/50, players I like, but we can get better, only 1yr veteran minimum benefit deals):

TE Ross Dwelley
DT Maurice Hurst Jr.
WLB Marcell Harris
CB Dontae Johnson

Yes, I know I have a lot of guys back, 71 signed under my plan, but remember that we have 31 signed right now for 2022, add in the 20 PS players, with most of them to just be cut when we sign our UDFAs, happens every year, add in the 5 ERFAs & 4 RFAs, all will be tendered or re-signed, that's 59 before the UFAs being signed back, 7 are veteran minimum benefit deals, just 5 multi-year deals, so there's your 71 players, and again those PS players, not all may be signed, but either way, most will end up being cut anyway when we sign UDFAs.

Needs IMO, in no order.

#2 QB (Tyrod Taylor maybe? 1yr up-to $10M, $5M cap hit)
Future C
Young EDGE opposite Bosa
CB depth(both young & veteran)
KR/PR (Speedy WR)

I'm not worried about RG, I have faith in Aaron Banks, as for RT, I see Jaylon Moore or Tom Compton if McGlinchey can't go, we won't be able to move on from him.

I'd also look into extending Ward, Moseley, & maybe Ebukam(gonna need to reduce his salary), can create room by redoing guys like Kittle & Armstead.

IMO, this should be the teams priorities in the offseason.

Extend Deebo, Bosa, & Dre
Re-Sign(Multi yr deals) J.Wilson, Laken, Key, Jones, Al-Shaair, & K'Waun

And yes, this is all possible.

What's the plan for Verrett? Tricky one since he was a stud when healthy.
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