2021 Team Information (Needs)

Ball hawking safety please

Originally posted by kirkscrafford:

Who is Halapio? He must have years in the league to make above the min, although he just get practice squad dollars?

3 accrued years = 4th yr minimum of $965k.

Originally posted by irishluder:
Well done AB! I agree we have alot of talent and depth that I dont want to lose out on, especially on the DL... some of these guys haven't got their chance yet with health and opportunity. The late season surge has me not focusing on the draft yet, but there are a few must adds:

KR/PR/WR4/5- We must get a small slot type who has SPEED and ability to be a jitter bug for ST returns and YAC on slants.

CB- FA or draft, primarily FA, to be ready so our young DB's can come along. I believe Thomas can be a good starter if he can learn to turn his head and play the ball. Resign K'wuan and keep nickle locked down. Get Lenoir coached up to play nickel as his primary role.

OL- Mack is good, but he's a ticking time bomb at this age, we need to bring in a young athletic OC to be a journeyman and take over in 23'. OG, we have some talent to groom and I feel comfortable with that next season, see what we have. Wait to invest in a starting OG in 23' draft.

Edge- This draft is deep and lets take a shot on someone in Rd 4-5 who needs some grooming, resigning Arden Key is a must.

S- I want to add more talent here, zero clue on options in FA or draft, but we really need to add some talent here.

RB- This is our bread and butter and Lance will need a healthy list of RB's to take pressure off him. I'd like to see us get a bruising back for the tough yards and a pass catching speed back in the later rounds of the draft.

Enjoy the game today folks, this is a special moment!!!!

Agreed on everything, need a speedy smaller WR to be that 4th or 5th guy & returner, I'd sign & draft a CB to go with Eman, AMBRY, Lenoir, hopefully KW, add a young C, draft an EDGE, yes need to extend Key, also have to keep DJ & Laken IMO. Also think S depth is a need, I like Ward & Huf, Tartt if back, but I like Moore but not confident he'll be back, so a backup FS, I'd look into extending Ward too. RB wise, I'm good with Mitchell, Sermon, Hasty & Wilson if back or a late rd or UDFA.

Another quality CB a ball hawking safety. Edge rusher, Tackle, backup QB. I would love to see another good TE and more depth at RB

I am thinking they are only going to pay the minimum for Jeff Wilson. He hasn't made it through a season yet. Plus, Mitchell and Deebo are potentially going to take all the carries.

Gentlemen and ladies out there. I only see one need remaining. The need for speed. No wait that's something else entirely. What I meant to say was, the need for #6. Let's get it.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
Ball hawking safety please

I think we are good with Ward, Tartt, Moore, Hufanga, and avackup veteran.

Tartt and Moore are UFA, hope we will get them back.

Originally posted by irishluder:
Well done AB! I agree we have alot of talent and depth that I dont want to lose out on, especially on the DL... some of these guys haven't got their chance yet with health and opportunity. The late season surge has me not focusing on the draft yet, but there are a few must adds:

KR/PR/WR4/5- We must get a small slot type who has SPEED and ability to be a jitter bug for ST returns and YAC on slants.

CB- FA or draft, primarily FA, to be ready so our young DB's can come along. I believe Thomas can be a good starter if he can learn to turn his head and play the ball. Resign K'wuan and keep nickle locked down. Get Lenoir coached up to play nickel as his primary role.

OL- Mack is good, but he's a ticking time bomb at this age, we need to bring in a young athletic OC to be a journeyman and take over in 23'. OG, we have some talent to groom and I feel comfortable with that next season, see what we have. Wait to invest in a starting OG in 23' draft.

Edge- This draft is deep and lets take a shot on someone in Rd 4-5 who needs some grooming, resigning Arden Key is a must.

S- I want to add more talent here, zero clue on options in FA or draft, but we really need to add some talent here.

RB- This is our bread and butter and Lance will need a healthy list of RB's to take pressure off him. I'd like to see us get a bruising back for the tough yards and a pass catching speed back in the later rounds of the draft.

Enjoy the game today folks, this is a special moment!!!!

Agree with the bolded above!


Game on!

WE NEED TWO FUDGING WINS!

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
WE NEED TWO FUDGING WINS!

LFG!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I know this is from early December, but how was Aiyuk an overdraft? He's proven he was well worth being picked where he was.

I don't get why you're so caught up on some deals like Dee, Kwon, Verrett, & Tartt, Dee yes ended up a bad deal, Kwon was good for the first 8 games, then Dre made him expendable, we didn't really waste money on him, Verrett was only ever 1 semi-big deal, 1yr $5M this year, it was worth the try, I think you liked him, it didn't work out, just let him walk, no biggie, as I've said, the biggest issue cap wise was the pandemic, the cap went down by $15.7M, it should have went to $215M ish, then $230M in 2022, now it's $208.2M in 2022 max. Not sure what's wrong with Tartt, he didn't get a huge deal when they extended him, and he signed a 1yr vet minimum deal this past offseason.

As for Kinlaw, let's wait & see how he looks post surgery, same surgeon who did Bosa's ACL did Kinlaw, so that gives me hope. I agree Pettis was a reach, as was Hurd. Was Wish, maybe? NE may have taken him, I didn't like a 4th rd P, but it is what it is.

No way is John wanting to sign injured players to big money deals, you and others need to get that out of your heads, McGlinchey was having a good season before his injury, he'll play 2022, if he's good, he's back on a cheaper deal, if not, he's gone. Moore can fill in at RT IMO.

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Let's not overvalue our own again. Aiyuk is coming around but he's only given us 650 yards this year. That's pretty replaceable production. But it was more about moving UP for him in a super deep year of receivers and those taken 'after' him have produced far more. It's just an example of how they panic, give up draft capital and overdraft players instead of letting the board fall to them. Just an example.

I'm caught up on ALL of their deals and their strategies for searching for and retaining those players and laid out clearly why this strategy has failed them time and time again.

As to this comment:

No way is John wanting to sign injured players to big money deals...

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That's literally what he's done, hence my overarching concerns.

We aren't exactly known to sling the ball around. Jimmy G is bottom 5 in passing attempts. If the QB has that few passing attempts and there is a receiver on the team with 1200 yards and a TE that is like 150 yards away from 1000, how many yards do you think the other receiver is going to have?

Personally I think this team has the guys to be more of a threat passing the ball, but we don't have a QB that can pull the trigger- by using every part of the field on his throws.

We saw it last year and are seeing it this year. Aiyuk is a good pick and I suspect will be even more dangerous with Trey at the helm.

One could argue that there wasn't a need for a 1st round receiver, but if you think of our situation going into the 2020 draft, we were letting Sanders walk and NO ONE saw this kind of dominance coming from Deebo. We have two good receivers starting who are on rookie deals for the first time since Mariucci. Aiyuk is not on the list of questionable FO decisions. There are 50 things we could get into before we get to Aiyuk.

Yeah, agreed.

This was just an example of them locking on to "our guy" and overpaying, and often times, over valuing them...their common and documented strategy. Not really about what Aiyuk himself, could be in the future with a different QB.

But i love your point about properly measuring production within the context of the offense (or defense) itself. A #2 WR here ending with 750 yards might be the equivalent of a 1K season on a more pass-centric, wide open spread offense with a QB the offense and skill positions are built around. Excellent point.

The inverse would be RB's and run blocking (grades) in our current system and 3rd down and RZ efficiency.

If anything, we overpaid for Trey Sermon, not Brandon Aiyuk. There was no need in using a 3rd round pick on a running back in this system. Totally disagree on Aiyuk. When you watch Aiyuk play, rookie year and the second half of this year, you see it. This is a guy that can do some serious damage. I actually suspect he explodes next year with Trey starting. I love our running identity, but feel there is more potential in our passing offense because defenses are so keyed on stopping the run game and we leave a lot of yards on the field. My guess is that the passing yardage takes a step forward in 2022 with that yardage coming from Aiyuk. I'm thinking more big chunk plays as opposed to high volume. Because of his route running ability, the fact that Aiyuk is more of a natural receiver, and the attention on everyone else, Aiyuk is going to likely destroy team's second corner in 2022. Think Alvin Harper for the Cowboys, except far better, more yardage and catches. Aiyuk catching 50 passes, particularly in key situations for 800+ yards would be huge. I'd expect Kittle to be around 800 to 1K again, particularly if we can get Woerner or someone else to take up more of the blocking duties.

For more, if I could script it, I'd like to us to open games running, do more passing in the middle as teams try to shut down the run, then go back to the run again when we have a good lead. This will also require a commitment to even better pass protection. They took a step forward today, but can do even better. Hopefully Banks is prepared to start as well as Moore. Send Brunskill and Compton to the bench and suddenly, we have very good depth with Compton, Brunskill, and McKivitz. If McGlinchey comes back and plays well, it's good for us because I expect him to not be retained. With all of our big money deals coming up, we need to get more starters on rookie deals. If he comes back and performs well, he'll net us a comp pick. Hell, given O-line play league wide, if he plays to 2021 levels, he's netting us a comp pick lol.

Outside of that, add the speed edge rusher, two more corners (so long Norman), a returner, and settle on a center of the future to groom.

We don't have a lot of holes and have really good depth, which sets us up well for the draft if we can resign key guys. But the holes we do have are so obvious. We can be very deliberate in our drafting and do not have to overdraft anyone. Hopefully Jimmy is traded multiple picks and one of those picks is high for this year. If we come away with a 2nd for this year and we use the capital right, 2022 is gonna be a GREAT year.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
My updated offseason plan, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022-offseason-plan/

Key Moves:

Re-Signings:

RB Jeff Wilson Jr. - 2yr $5M ($2.5M APY)
RB JaMycal Hasty - $895K ERFA tender
RB Trenton Cannon - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
WR Jauan Jennings - $825K ERFA tender
WR Trent Sherfield - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
WR River Cracraft - 1yr $965K
C Jake Brendel - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
LG Laken Tomlinson - 4yr $32M($8M APY)
LG Colton McKivitz - $895K ERFA tender
RG Daniel Brunskill - 1yr $1.265M
RT Tom Compton - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
DE Arden Key - 4yr $24M ($6M APY)
DE Jordan Willis - 1yr $895K veteran minimum benefit deal
DT Kentavius Street - 1yr $1.265M
DT Kevin Givens - $895K ERFA tender
NT D.J. Jones - 5yr $30M ($6M APY)
SLB Azeez Al-Shaair - 3yr $10.5M ($3.5M APY)
SLB Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles - $895K ERFA tender
CB K'Waun Williams - 3yr $18M ($6M APY)
FS Tarvarius Moore - 1yr $1,047,500 veteran minimum benefit deal
SS Jaquiski Tartt - 1yr $1,272,500 Fourth Year Qualifying Contract (Gets $2.37M base, but only $1.12M counts)

Extensions:

WR Deebo Samuel - 5yr $102.5M ($20.5M APY)
DE Nick Bosa - 5yr $152.5M ($30.5M APY)
WLB Dre Greenlaw - 4yr $14M ($3.5M APY)

Trades/Releases:

QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Let Walk:

RB Raheem Mostert
WR Travis Benjamin
WR Mohamed Sanu Sr.
WR Richie James Jr.
CB Josh Norman
FS Tavon Wilson
FS Jarrod Wilson

Unsure of(50/50, players I like, but we can get better, only 1yr veteran minimum benefit deals):

TE Ross Dwelley
DT Maurice Hurst Jr.
WLB Marcell Harris
CB Dontae Johnson

Yes, I know I have a lot of guys back, 71 signed under my plan, but remember that we have 31 signed right now for 2022, add in the 20 PS players, with most of them to just be cut when we sign our UDFAs, happens every year, add in the 5 ERFAs & 4 RFAs, all will be tendered or re-signed, that's 59 before the UFAs being signed back, 7 are veteran minimum benefit deals, just 5 multi-year deals, so there's your 71 players, and again those PS players, not all may be signed, but either way, most will end up being cut anyway when we sign UDFAs.

Needs IMO, in no order.

#2 QB (Tyrod Taylor maybe? 1yr up-to $10M, $5M cap hit)
Future C
Young EDGE opposite Bosa
CB depth(both young & veteran)
KR/PR (Speedy WR)

I'm not worried about RG, I have faith in Aaron Banks, as for RT, I see Jaylon Moore or Tom Compton if McGlinchey can't go, we won't be able to move on from him.

I'd also look into extending Ward, Moseley, & maybe Ebukam(gonna need to reduce his salary), can create room by redoing guys like Kittle & Armstead.

IMO, this should be the teams priorities in the offseason.

Extend Deebo, Bosa, & Dre
Re-Sign(Multi yr deals) J.Wilson, Laken, Key, Jones, Al-Shaair, & K'Waun

And yes, this is all possible.

What's the plan for Verrett? Tricky one since he was a stud when healthy.

Vet minimum. If he takes it, great. If he doesn't, oh well. Should we sign him, I'd want him in the room with our young secondary essentially being another coach.

Miosely, Thomas, Williams, Lenoir, and two more rookies looks promising.

Now that we usher in the Trey Era, these are our TEAM strengths and weaknesses. Feel free to add any I forgot. These are areas that have cost us dearly in losses and big reasons we went as far as we did with a roster that wasn't quite good enough for a Superbowl (IMHO, of course). It's a fluid comprehensive list (over 18+ weeks).

Team Weakneses:
Defensive pass interference
Defense can't generate TO's
Defense fails late in games and in quick fashion
Defense instantly gives up a score immediately after going up double digits
3rd down pass defense
Defense piss poor tackling (and technique) at times
Offense missed a big opportunity/play
Offensive TO's lead to points the other way
Offensive TO's take points off the board
Offensive penalties at crucial times usually in the RZ or backed up (false starts, holdings, delays, etc.)
Receiver drops
Boneheaded team penalties at key moments
Kyle is bipolar with play calling
Kyle struggles with clock management at times
Kyle gets too cute or too conservative at times
Slow starts and/or poor second half adjustments
Must run 35+ times to have a chance to win
Unit pass protection collapse in predictable passing situations (includes RB's, FB and TE's)
Too many key injuries at key positions at key times
SpecialED teams

Team Strengths:
RZ % - leads the NFL
Clutch points - leads the NFL
DL - #1 in the NFL since week 6 (Armstead moved inside)
2nd half come backs
Running game
Versatility/creative play calling
Next man up production
Timely blitzes

Many of these are going to have to be fixed with new personnel or focused on in practice significantly. We don't want Trey developing any poor habits out of the gate.

It's remarkable how solid our roster currently is, where the biggest questions are what size extensions are our best young players going to get. Most other fanbases would be thrilled to be in the position we're in. Kudos to Lynch, Peters, and Marathe for their roster construction. If we are able to re-sign Tomlinson and D.J. Jones (and maybe K'Waun and Key), we will really just a few holes/depth to fill out in FA and the draft.

My priority list:

Offensive Line: Even with re-signing Tomlinson, we need an upgrade at RG and swing tackle. We can't rely on Aaron Banks, and McKivitz and Moore should compete with a veteran for swing tackle. It'd also be nice to start thinking ahead to when Alex Mack can't go anymore.

Cornerback: Emphasis here is on nickel corner, which is hopefully filled by K'Waun. Otherwise, we have Mosely and Thomas penciled in as starters; I'd love to bring in a FA to compete and use another draft pick to shore up this position and provide valuable depth. We never want to have to rely on Dre Kirkpatrick to start again.

Safety: Whether re-signing Tartt or not, we still need depth here. Hufanga is a great STer and rotational player, but I don't think he has the speed to be a starting safety.

Edge Rusher: Key may have played himself out of the Bay Area, given our other priorities. Would love to see us address this position in the draft, but not sure if we'll be in a position to get anything more than developmental depth here.

Speed WR: For the first time in a very long time, the WR room is a strength for this team, with a soon-to-be extended Deebo, Aiyuk, and Jennings. We could use a speed option to take the top off defenses.

TE: It seems we've been talking about bringing in a complement to Kittle for years and it never pans out. I'd love to see Charlie Woerner step up in his 3rd year, and it seemed like he might after his big game in Chicago, but he's faded as a factor since then.

DL Depth: This is assuming we sign DJ Jones; even if we don't, I think we probably roll with Kinlaw next season. Either way, bringing in cheap depth in the draft or FA is likely to keep the room stocked with bodies.

Back-up QB: Seems likely we'll bring in a veteran QB who knows Shanny's system.

RB/LB Depth: We have locked in starters here, but a late draft pick and/or cheap veteran talent seems likely to compete in training camp.

Originally posted by sspiker:
It's remarkable how solid our roster currently is, where the biggest questions are what size extensions are our best young players going to get. Most other fanbases would be thrilled to be in the position we're in. Kudos to Lynch, Peters, and Marathe for their roster construction. If we are able to re-sign Tomlinson and D.J. Jones (and maybe K'Waun and Key), we will really just a few holes/depth to fill out in FA and the draft.

My priority list:

Offensive Line: Even with re-signing Tomlinson, we need an upgrade at RG and swing tackle. We can't rely on Aaron Banks, and McKivitz and Moore should compete with a veteran for swing tackle. It'd also be nice to start thinking ahead to when Alex Mack can't go anymore.

Cornerback: Emphasis here is on nickel corner, which is hopefully filled by K'Waun. Otherwise, we have Mosely and Thomas penciled in as starters; I'd love to bring in a FA to compete and use another draft pick to shore up this position and provide valuable depth. We never want to have to rely on Dre Kirkpatrick to start again.

Safety: Whether re-signing Tartt or not, we still need depth here. Hufanga is a great STer and rotational player, but I don't think he has the speed to be a starting safety.

Edge Rusher: Key may have played himself out of the Bay Area, given our other priorities. Would love to see us address this position in the draft, but not sure if we'll be in a position to get anything more than developmental depth here.

Speed WR: For the first time in a very long time, the WR room is a strength for this team, with a soon-to-be extended Deebo, Aiyuk, and Jennings. We could use a speed option to take the top off defenses.

TE: It seems we've been talking about bringing in a complement to Kittle for years and it never pans out. I'd love to see Charlie Woerner step up in his 3rd year, and it seemed like he might after his big game in Chicago, but he's faded as a factor since then.

DL Depth: This is assuming we sign DJ Jones; even if we don't, I think we probably roll with Kinlaw next season. Either way, bringing in cheap depth in the draft or FA is likely to keep the room stocked with bodies.

Back-up QB: Seems likely we'll bring in a veteran QB who knows Shanny's system.

RB/LB Depth: We have locked in starters here, but a late draft pick and/or cheap veteran talent seems likely to compete in training camp.

Man, you nailed it.

I'd like to add "play maker" to many of these. For instance, we have a nice sound secondary but when K'Waun Williams is your best play maker in a passing league, it's going to cost you. We have an excellent DL rotation but do we have that speed rusher opposite Bosa late in games that force QB's like Jimmy to run for his life and make poor decisions? We have an outstanding WR group but do we have a playmaking deep threat that DB's have to respect at all times? The RB group is as strong as its ever been but do we have the play maker who can take it to the house on any snap? QB, we might have a play making off schedule and mobile QB who looks for bigger plays but now, can he execute clutch drives, is clutch in the RZ and can take 10 minutes off the clock at the end of the game to ice it?

We've always had a top 8ish roster that is far deeper than most teams. But what takes you over the top and has you in conversations about winning the Superbowl are play makers. And like Kyle said...he needs them to shine when needed most.