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Originally posted by sspiker:
It's remarkable how solid our roster currently is, where the biggest questions are what size extensions are our best young players going to get. Most other fanbases would be thrilled to be in the position we're in. Kudos to Lynch, Peters, and Marathe for their roster construction. If we are able to re-sign Tomlinson and D.J. Jones (and maybe K'Waun and Key), we will really just a few holes/depth to fill out in FA and the draft.

My priority list:

Offensive Line: Even with re-signing Tomlinson, we need an upgrade at RG and swing tackle. We can't rely on Aaron Banks, and McKivitz and Moore should compete with a veteran for swing tackle. It'd also be nice to start thinking ahead to when Alex Mack can't go anymore.

Cornerback: Emphasis here is on nickel corner, which is hopefully filled by K'Waun. Otherwise, we have Mosely and Thomas penciled in as starters; I'd love to bring in a FA to compete and use another draft pick to shore up this position and provide valuable depth. We never want to have to rely on Dre Kirkpatrick to start again.

Safety: Whether re-signing Tartt or not, we still need depth here. Hufanga is a great STer and rotational player, but I don't think he has the speed to be a starting safety.

Edge Rusher: Key may have played himself out of the Bay Area, given our other priorities. Would love to see us address this position in the draft, but not sure if we'll be in a position to get anything more than developmental depth here.

Speed WR: For the first time in a very long time, the WR room is a strength for this team, with a soon-to-be extended Deebo, Aiyuk, and Jennings. We could use a speed option to take the top off defenses.

TE: It seems we've been talking about bringing in a complement to Kittle for years and it never pans out. I'd love to see Charlie Woerner step up in his 3rd year, and it seemed like he might after his big game in Chicago, but he's faded as a factor since then.

DL Depth: This is assuming we sign DJ Jones; even if we don't, I think we probably roll with Kinlaw next season. Either way, bringing in cheap depth in the draft or FA is likely to keep the room stocked with bodies.

Back-up QB: Seems likely we'll bring in a veteran QB who knows Shanny's system.

RB/LB Depth: We have locked in starters here, but a late draft pick and/or cheap veteran talent seems likely to compete in training camp.

Just wanted to circle back to the 2021 off season of team needs in this year's OP.

It looks like we didn't fix a number of the issues we identified...and they cost us dearly...and they're on your current list for 2022 already, again.

2021 Team Needs/Top Targets: (Draft & Free Agency)

Team Needs: QB, IOL (C & RG), CB, ER (Speed), XWR (Speed), T (Future), SS, TE2, SWR, ST (Returner)
QB - QB might be the first pick if their guy is available. There's nothing more important!
IOL - Once again, Weston Richburg's future hangs in the balance. Ben Garland, Daniel Brunskill and Colton McKivitz do not appear to be the answer and RT Mike McGlinchey fell off a cliff as a pass protector. 2 different QB's were placed on I.R. 3 times and gave this unit gave up 124 QB hits (2nd most). Unit pass protection remains the teams #1 need/issue.
CB - Will Jason Verrett, Ahkello Witherspoon, K'Wuan Williams, Richard Sherman, and/or Emmanuel Moseley be back?
ER- Once again, Dee Ford's future hangs in the balance. Kerry Hyder is an UFA as is Ronald Blair who missed all of 2020. Nick Bosa is returning from an ACL.
XWR - Kyle badly needed a speed guy after Marquise Goodwin left. He was unsuccessful in finding this player last year. This can be a ST player (returner) but a threat of that outside speed, even in part time duty, really helps open up Kyle's offense.
T - If the FO loses UFA Trent Williams, this will jump up to a high priority. Either way, a real talent needs to challenge Mike McGlinchey as he's way too comfortable and he had PRP injections last summer and lost a ton of weight to help minimize the strain on the knees but it cost him dearly in pass protection.
SS - Jimmie Ward (SS) and Tarvarius Moore (FS) are most likely your starters with quality depth in Marcell Harris who can also play SAM. Jaquaski Tartt is most likely gone.
TE2 - Imagine what Kyle could do for Jimmy with a TE2 like the Patriots had with Gronk/Hernandez. I believe Jalen Hurd was going to be our Hernandez but with a busted back, ACL and chronic injury concerns, ShanaLynch might need to go another direction here. Jordan Reed is a question-mark.
SWR - This position fell off a cliff and badly needs big play from both a big and small slot.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 31, 2022 at 12:42 PM ]
I can't believe it's time to make another one of these again. 9 years and counting.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 6, 2022 at 2:30 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by sspiker:
It's remarkable how solid our roster currently is, where the biggest questions are what size extensions are our best young players going to get. Most other fanbases would be thrilled to be in the position we're in. Kudos to Lynch, Peters, and Marathe for their roster construction. If we are able to re-sign Tomlinson and D.J. Jones (and maybe K'Waun and Key), we will really just a few holes/depth to fill out in FA and the draft.

My priority list:

Offensive Line: Even with re-signing Tomlinson, we need an upgrade at RG and swing tackle. We can't rely on Aaron Banks, and McKivitz and Moore should compete with a veteran for swing tackle. It'd also be nice to start thinking ahead to when Alex Mack can't go anymore.

Cornerback: Emphasis here is on nickel corner, which is hopefully filled by K'Waun. Otherwise, we have Mosely and Thomas penciled in as starters; I'd love to bring in a FA to compete and use another draft pick to shore up this position and provide valuable depth. We never want to have to rely on Dre Kirkpatrick to start again.

Safety: Whether re-signing Tartt or not, we still need depth here. Hufanga is a great STer and rotational player, but I don't think he has the speed to be a starting safety.

Edge Rusher: Key may have played himself out of the Bay Area, given our other priorities. Would love to see us address this position in the draft, but not sure if we'll be in a position to get anything more than developmental depth here.

Speed WR: For the first time in a very long time, the WR room is a strength for this team, with a soon-to-be extended Deebo, Aiyuk, and Jennings. We could use a speed option to take the top off defenses.

TE: It seems we've been talking about bringing in a complement to Kittle for years and it never pans out. I'd love to see Charlie Woerner step up in his 3rd year, and it seemed like he might after his big game in Chicago, but he's faded as a factor since then.

DL Depth: This is assuming we sign DJ Jones; even if we don't, I think we probably roll with Kinlaw next season. Either way, bringing in cheap depth in the draft or FA is likely to keep the room stocked with bodies.

Back-up QB: Seems likely we'll bring in a veteran QB who knows Shanny's system.

RB/LB Depth: We have locked in starters here, but a late draft pick and/or cheap veteran talent seems likely to compete in training camp.

Man, you nailed it.

I'd like to add "play maker" to many of these. For instance, we have a nice sound secondary but when K'Waun Williams is your best play maker in a passing league, it's going to cost you. We have an excellent DL rotation but do we have that speed rusher opposite Bosa late in games that force QB's like Jimmy to run for his life and make poor decisions? We have an outstanding WR group but do we have a playmaking deep threat that DB's have to respect at all times? The RB group is as strong as its ever been but do we have the play maker who can take it to the house on any snap? QB, we might have a play making off schedule and mobile QB who looks for bigger plays but now, can he execute clutch drives, is clutch in the RZ and can take 10 minutes off the clock at the end of the game to ice it?

We've always had a top 8ish roster that is far deeper than most teams. But what takes you over the top and has you in conversations about winning the Superbowl are play makers. And like Kyle said...he needs them to shine when needed most.

I disagree on Banks, we have to see what he has, he'll have a full offseason under his belt, so in no way can anyone write him off, I like McKivitz potentially at LG if Laken leaves, & Moore at RT if McGlinchey can't go.

Safety wise, many don't know this, but Tarvarius Moore's contract tolled, so he's under contract for 2022 at just $965K, so if he can come back, that'd be big, as he was really good in 2019 during our Super Bowl run.

I know people say Key may have played his way out, I disagree, people said Hyder would get up to $10M a yr, he got $3.3M a yr, so I don't see many teams knocking down Key's door to sign him to a big deal, same goes with K'Waun, & Tartt, market wasn't their in 2021, doubt it'll be there this offseason.

We need depth at LB for sure, I like our backs, if Wilson comes back, but I'd just try & find another late round or UDFA gem.

We need a speedy WR/Returner, #4 WR that is, as Deebo, Aiyuk, & Jennings are 1-3.

My top needs would be #2 QB, #4 WR, #3 TE, IOL, EDGE, LB Depth, CB help, & Safety depth, we won't fill all of these in free agency, but we should fill these between the draft & FA. I'd love to get a Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor to be the #2 QB, I'd also love someone like Jakeem Grant, or Braxton Berrios as a WR/Returner(I was high on both when they were coming out of college), as for CB, I'd look at the 2nd tier guys, cause we shouldn't give a Gilmore $15M a yr that he's rumored to want, & the likes of J.C. Jackson & Carlton Davis III will either get tagged, or there will be a huge bidding war, they could push towards the top, right now Ramsey is at $20M a yr, so I'd go after someone like Levi Wallace, Donte Jackson, Charvarius Ward, Desmond King(who played some outside this past season), guys like that, depending on the price tag, also don't expect them to go after a Quandre Diggs or Tyrann Mathieu, they're gonna get top money, like Jamal Adams, money, or in the Justin Simmons, Budda Baker, or Eddie Jackson money, all $14M a yr or more.

As for the draft, I'd look at CB, EDGE, & IOL as main needs, with LB depth, 3rd TE(I do like the idea of a Mo Alie-Cox or Lee Smith in FA for right price), RB on day 3, & Safety depth.
2022 Draft Picks: 9
(2 | 61) -
(3 | 93) -
(3 | X) - McDaniel
(4 | 130) -
(5 | 170) -
(6 | 186) -
(7 | 251) -
(7 | 254) -
(7 | 260) -

PS: it should, but I'm not sure if this includes the Saleh comp in the 3rd. And this is before the Jimmy trade too.

This is per Tankathon.
Originally posted by NCommand:
2022 Draft Picks: 9
(2 | 61) -
(3 | 93) -
(3 | X) - McDaniel
(4 | 130) -
(5 | 170) -
(6 | 186) -
(7 | 251) -
(7 | 254) -
(7 | 260) -

PS: it should, but I'm not sure if this includes the Saleh comp in the 3rd. And this is before the Jimmy trade too.

This is per Tankathon.

OverTheCap is more accurate, the picks are as follows, 2nd(61st), 3rd(93rd), 3rd Comp(102nd, right after the 3rd going to Miami), 4th(133rd), 5th(172nd), 6th(186th, from Denver), 7th(252nd, 254th, & 262nd, comp picks for losing Solomon Thomas, Kerry Hyder Jr., & C.J. Beathard)
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by sspiker:
It's remarkable how solid our roster currently is, where the biggest questions are what size extensions are our best young players going to get. Most other fanbases would be thrilled to be in the position we're in. Kudos to Lynch, Peters, and Marathe for their roster construction. If we are able to re-sign Tomlinson and D.J. Jones (and maybe K'Waun and Key), we will really just a few holes/depth to fill out in FA and the draft.

My priority list:

Offensive Line: Even with re-signing Tomlinson, we need an upgrade at RG and swing tackle. We can't rely on Aaron Banks, and McKivitz and Moore should compete with a veteran for swing tackle. It'd also be nice to start thinking ahead to when Alex Mack can't go anymore.

Cornerback: Emphasis here is on nickel corner, which is hopefully filled by K'Waun. Otherwise, we have Mosely and Thomas penciled in as starters; I'd love to bring in a FA to compete and use another draft pick to shore up this position and provide valuable depth. We never want to have to rely on Dre Kirkpatrick to start again.

Safety: Whether re-signing Tartt or not, we still need depth here. Hufanga is a great STer and rotational player, but I don't think he has the speed to be a starting safety.

Edge Rusher: Key may have played himself out of the Bay Area, given our other priorities. Would love to see us address this position in the draft, but not sure if we'll be in a position to get anything more than developmental depth here.

Speed WR: For the first time in a very long time, the WR room is a strength for this team, with a soon-to-be extended Deebo, Aiyuk, and Jennings. We could use a speed option to take the top off defenses.

TE: It seems we've been talking about bringing in a complement to Kittle for years and it never pans out. I'd love to see Charlie Woerner step up in his 3rd year, and it seemed like he might after his big game in Chicago, but he's faded as a factor since then.

DL Depth: This is assuming we sign DJ Jones; even if we don't, I think we probably roll with Kinlaw next season. Either way, bringing in cheap depth in the draft or FA is likely to keep the room stocked with bodies.

Back-up QB: Seems likely we'll bring in a veteran QB who knows Shanny's system.

RB/LB Depth: We have locked in starters here, but a late draft pick and/or cheap veteran talent seems likely to compete in training camp.

Man, you nailed it.

I'd like to add "play maker" to many of these. For instance, we have a nice sound secondary but when K'Waun Williams is your best play maker in a passing league, it's going to cost you. We have an excellent DL rotation but do we have that speed rusher opposite Bosa late in games that force QB's like Jimmy to run for his life and make poor decisions? We have an outstanding WR group but do we have a playmaking deep threat that DB's have to respect at all times? The RB group is as strong as its ever been but do we have the play maker who can take it to the house on any snap? QB, we might have a play making off schedule and mobile QB who looks for bigger plays but now, can he execute clutch drives, is clutch in the RZ and can take 10 minutes off the clock at the end of the game to ice it?

We've always had a top 8ish roster that is far deeper than most teams. But what takes you over the top and has you in conversations about winning the Superbowl are play makers. And like Kyle said...he needs them to shine when needed most.

I disagree on Banks, we have to see what he has, he'll have a full offseason under his belt, so in no way can anyone write him off, I like McKivitz potentially at LG if Laken leaves, & Moore at RT if McGlinchey can't go.

Safety wise, many don't know this, but Tarvarius Moore's contract tolled, so he's under contract for 2022 at just $965K, so if he can come back, that'd be big, as he was really good in 2019 during our Super Bowl run.

I know people say Key may have played his way out, I disagree, people said Hyder would get up to $10M a yr, he got $3.3M a yr, so I don't see many teams knocking down Key's door to sign him to a big deal, same goes with K'Waun, & Tartt, market wasn't their in 2021, doubt it'll be there this offseason.

We need depth at LB for sure, I like our backs, if Wilson comes back, but I'd just try & find another late round or UDFA gem.

We need a speedy WR/Returner, #4 WR that is, as Deebo, Aiyuk, & Jennings are 1-3.

My top needs would be #2 QB, #4 WR, #3 TE, IOL, EDGE, LB Depth, CB help, & Safety depth, we won't fill all of these in free agency, but we should fill these between the draft & FA. I'd love to get a Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor to be the #2 QB, I'd also love someone like Jakeem Grant, or Braxton Berrios as a WR/Returner(I was high on both when they were coming out of college), as for CB, I'd look at the 2nd tier guys, cause we shouldn't give a Gilmore $15M a yr that he's rumored to want, & the likes of J.C. Jackson & Carlton Davis III will either get tagged, or there will be a huge bidding war, they could push towards the top, right now Ramsey is at $20M a yr, so I'd go after someone like Levi Wallace, Donte Jackson, Charvarius Ward, Desmond King(who played some outside this past season), guys like that, depending on the price tag, also don't expect them to go after a Quandre Diggs or Tyrann Mathieu, they're gonna get top money, like Jamal Adams, money, or in the Justin Simmons, Budda Baker, or Eddie Jackson money, all $14M a yr or more.

As for the draft, I'd look at CB, EDGE, & IOL as main needs, with LB depth, 3rd TE(I do like the idea of a Mo Alie-Cox or Lee Smith in FA for right price), RB on day 3, & Safety depth.

Great posts both of you. The thing that is worrisome is the RG & RT situation. Man, i would love to know just exactly how good Banks, Jaylon Moore, and McKivitz are, and hope that JL and Kyle both already know if any of these 3 guys are way better than our current RG and RT. That is really the determining factor in what we do, all based on how JL/KS evaluate these 3.

If they are certain that Jaylon is a lock at RT, then fantastic. If they KNOW that Banks will be solid at RG in both PP and RB, super. McKivitz…same . Because if they KNOW for certain that any of these 3 guys will do great in both run and pass blocking, then we don't have to worry about OL unless it is a pipeline guy at C that needs a yr seasoning.

It would be incredibly helpful if we knew R side of OL is locked and loaded so we could look at CBs a lot more vigorously and not have to worry about the OL. Same would go for Edge. We got a lot riding on both john's and Kyle's evaluation of what exactly Moore , Banks and McKivitz have. I would love to go CB hunting knowing OL is locked down tight. I forgot McG in this, and again do KS/JL KNOW what he can do? That knowledge, or lack thereof, is key to whatever else we need to do.

And I got no idea if any of those three (or 4) OLs are capable of top 10-15 at their positions or not…but sure hope john and kyle do.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
OverTheCap is more accurate, the picks are as follows, 2nd(61st), 3rd(93rd), 3rd Comp(102nd, right after the 3rd going to Miami), 4th(133rd), 5th(172nd), 6th(186th, from Denver), 7th(252nd, 254th, & 262nd, comp picks for losing Solomon Thomas, Kerry Hyder Jr., & C.J. Beathard)

TY! I'll update!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
OverTheCap is more accurate, the picks are as follows, 2nd(61st), 3rd(93rd), 3rd Comp(102nd, right after the 3rd going to Miami), 4th(133rd), 5th(172nd), 6th(186th, from Denver), 7th(252nd, 254th, & 262nd, comp picks for losing Solomon Thomas, Kerry Hyder Jr., & C.J. Beathard)

TY! I'll update!
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
OverTheCap is more accurate, the picks are as follows, 2nd(61st), 3rd(93rd), 3rd Comp(102nd, right after the 3rd going to Miami), 4th(133rd), 5th(172nd), 6th(186th, from Denver), 7th(252nd, 254th, & 262nd, comp picks for losing Solomon Thomas, Kerry Hyder Jr., & C.J. Beathard)

TY! I'll update!

BTW, is the 102 for McDaniel? Saleh?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
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TY! I'll update!

BTW, is the 102 for McDaniel? Saleh?

McDaniel, 101 goes to Miami(Saleh/Mayhew)
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
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BTW, is the 102 for McDaniel? Saleh?

McDaniel, 101 goes to Miami(Saleh/Mayhew)

Awesome!
New article up on 49erscap.com, my 2022 team needs, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022/02/07/looking-at-my-49ers-2022-team-needs-with-potential-targets-analysis/
What we need is more 49ers regular season football.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by irishluder:
Well done AB! I agree we have alot of talent and depth that I dont want to lose out on, especially on the DL... some of these guys haven't got their chance yet with health and opportunity. The late season surge has me not focusing on the draft yet, but there are a few must adds:

KR/PR/WR4/5- We must get a small slot type who has SPEED and ability to be a jitter bug for ST returns and YAC on slants.

CB- FA or draft, primarily FA, to be ready so our young DB's can come along. I believe Thomas can be a good starter if he can learn to turn his head and play the ball. Resign K'wuan and keep nickle locked down. Get Lenoir coached up to play nickel as his primary role.

OL- Mack is good, but he's a ticking time bomb at this age, we need to bring in a young athletic OC to be a journeyman and take over in 23'. OG, we have some talent to groom and I feel comfortable with that next season, see what we have. Wait to invest in a starting OG in 23' draft.

Edge- This draft is deep and lets take a shot on someone in Rd 4-5 who needs some grooming, resigning Arden Key is a must.

S- I want to add more talent here, zero clue on options in FA or draft, but we really need to add some talent here.

RB- This is our bread and butter and Lance will need a healthy list of RB's to take pressure off him. I'd like to see us get a bruising back for the tough yards and a pass catching speed back in the later rounds of the draft.

Enjoy the game today folks, this is a special moment!!!!

Agreed on everything, need a speedy smaller WR to be that 4th or 5th guy & returner, I'd sign & draft a CB to go with Eman, AMBRY, Lenoir, hopefully KW, add a young C, draft an EDGE, yes need to extend Key, also have to keep DJ & Laken IMO. Also think S depth is a need, I like Ward & Huf, Tartt if back, but I like Moore but not confident he'll be back, so a backup FS, I'd look into extending Ward too. RB wise, I'm good with Mitchell, Sermon, Hasty & Wilson if back or a late rd or UDFA.

Everything is a deck chair Except edge (STILL!!!) and OL. Edge will cover up the weakness at corner.

You forgot veteran bridge qb.

Oops i mean backup.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
New article up on 49erscap.com, my 2022 team needs, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2022/02/07/looking-at-my-49ers-2022-team-needs-with-potential-targets-analysis/

Great great stuff. Love love love that you look outside the team too. We're close!
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