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Realistically looking at the situation who is under center 2021?

  • fropwns
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Welp, at least the OP tried to make it more general as opposed to a gushfest over QB "A" or "B" or "C".
Originally posted by pickle:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

Not if you don't fix the offensive line.

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  • Jiks
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Jimmy G with a 3rd-5th round rookie behind a savvy vet.
Originally posted by English:
Realistically? Ok. The huge bounty of draft picks into the future required for the Watson trade would cripple the team, particularly as it becomes necessary to replace veterans forced out by the salary cap. Stafford isn't particularly good and certainly not worth the two 1st rounders that webzone inflation has projected his price to. It is impossible to speculate on Rodgers without Green Bay giving at least a hint of the price, although his salary cap hit may rule him out regardless.

The team has continually talked about a long term strategy. If this is truly the case, none of these options are really on the table. There would only be two. One would be if they are happy with Garoppolo and confident that injury is, as far as you can tell, no more likely in the future than it is for any other NFL quarterback. So the entire draft can be used to fill the gaps and to build the depth. Alternatively if they aren't, they take a qb in the first round. Depending on how the draft goes they might trade up a little for a particular candidate who has dropped somewhat, or not. I don't think that the blockbuster trade is at all likely for much the same reason as the Watson argument. We would have to get one of the first two picks and that would be too expensive. The last few years are littered with examples of why this is probably not a good idea. So the sort of draftee that we are likely to end up with probably needs some development time. So we bring him on behind Garoppolo and with the best prospect this summer out of Rosen and Beathard.

My opinion.

100% this. With 40 free agents and only 15 M to work with this off-season we're going to have to build through the draft. Giving up all our picks for one player is a move that will hurt more than help. We have no corners on the team besides Webster and an offensive line that pass blocks like s**t.
Originally posted by fropwns:
Welp, at least the OP tried to make it more general as opposed to a gushfest over QB "A" or "B" or "C".

Yes, quite.

Gents, please use the thread as it was intended.
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Not to sound crappy... But, I'd put JG behind this line as I'd hate to see the 49ers blow draft capital on an older QB only to have them go down in game 5. Might as well let the guy with a contract that allows the 49ers to move on take that hit.
Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

You absolutely NAILED it!
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by pickle:
Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

Not if you don't fix the offensive line.

Watson would make this OL look better day one, his pocket presence and mobility would.

Agree with all of you.
The operative word in the post title is "Realistic."

My heart is for Watson - IMO we'd win SB's w/him.

Stafford has too many injuries and not worth what we'd give up.

Realistically - I can see us trading up to get one of the top tier QB's in the draft and have JG start the season.

Then id it all works out - trade him before the deadline to the Pats.

BUT - whoever we get of keep at QB - we MUST improve our OLine.
Originally posted by English:
Realistically? Ok. The huge bounty of draft picks into the future required for the Watson trade would cripple the team, particularly as it becomes necessary to replace veterans forced out by the salary cap. Stafford isn't particularly good and certainly not worth the two 1st rounders that webzone inflation has projected his price to. It is impossible to speculate on Rodgers without Green Bay giving at least a hint of the price, although his salary cap hit may rule him out regardless.

The team has continually talked about a long term strategy. If this is truly the case, none of these options are really on the table. There would only be two. One would be if they are happy with Garoppolo and confident that injury is, as far as you can tell, no more likely in the future than it is for any other NFL quarterback. So the entire draft can be used to fill the gaps and to build the depth. Alternatively if they aren't, they take a qb in the first round. Depending on how the draft goes they might trade up a little for a particular candidate who has dropped somewhat, or not. I don't think that the blockbuster trade is at all likely for much the same reason as the Watson argument. We would have to get one of the first two picks and that would be too expensive. The last few years are littered with examples of why this is probably not a good idea. So the sort of draftee that we are likely to end up with probably needs some development time. So we bring him on behind Garoppolo and with the best prospect this summer out of Rosen and Beathard.

My opinion.

Excellent, realistic post.

I'm one to very much believe this team can win a SB with Garoppolo. They were a half a quarter away last year...I've re-watched that game multiple times up until the final half of the 4th (only re-watched the ending once - too difficult to watch it more than that). This team had the Chiefs. It wasn't just Garoppolo, it wasn't just the D, it was the team as a collective whole. It was complementary football. This team just needed to finish, put the hammer down with another TD or more (considering you're up against Mahomes). They all gained valuable experience from this (including Shanahan) and next time I bet they seal the deal.

I'm also in the process of re-watching many key games from 2019, which I've already re-watched a couple of times...Garoppolo was very, very good in that last game vs. Seattle, vs. New Orleans, vs Green Bay, vs. Arizona and others. He has to stay healthy - we know that, he knows that - and shoring up areas of the OL will help in that regard. They also need a better insurance policy at QB, a better backup plan just in case.

This team, with Garoppolo running things at QB in now being immersed in Shanahan's scheme for 3 1/2 years, in playing complementary football with the talent on both sides of the ball, is a top team in the league IMO and I like this team's chances on any given gameday.
The problem with guys like Watson, Stafford and maybe even Rodgers are the teams like the Colts, Bears, WFT, and Saints who all made the playoffs but have no chance to draft one of the top prospects. These teams are probably willing to get into a bidding war for a guy like Stafford as i'm sure they view there teams are in a win now mode. Also if Watson wants to go to the Jets and they offer 3 first rounders, how much do you think the 49ers will have to offer? 4?

Now looking at the draft there are a bunch of teams 4-7 that pick ahead of us that can realistically draft a QB. IMO we are on the outside looking in at these draft prospects. We'll need to trade up and probably have to mortgage the future on one of these guys. Teams willing to trade out of the top 5 probably view us as a playoff team so our 1st rounders wont hold as much value as say the Lions first rounders over the next 2 years.

Its a tough decision to make.
lol if the caveat is "realistically", Garoppolo should be the only option on the poll.
The most likely scenario is they keep Jimmy G. Do something to reduce his cap hit in 2021, Jimmy knows nobody else will pay him anything close to that and has no guaranteed money.
If they stick with Jimmy, #12 will be invested either on OL or CB.
Jimmy can't make more than 20m in 2021 and that's a fact.
Won't matter if the oline sux. Again. Only the escape artist russ w can spin gold out of that straw.

Need to draft a C at #1, sign quality free agent RG, trade mcg for a #2, draft a RT that has some strength and balance.

Then invest 2 late round pix as subs. Richburg not coming back next year any more than the invisible man dee ford. So we are skrwd there too.

Until this is done, qb talk is meaningless
More important is who is going to be center. Still a very weak spot. Any of the QBs on the list can win games for us while upright.
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