Our big issue last season was back up Quarterback play

Originally posted by English:
So, let me get this clear, you guys are b***hing about our 3rd string quarterback? Because Mullens did ok before, so much so that posters here were talking about trading Garoppolo and starting him, or trading him for a first round pick! Yes, he blew it this year but I can't see that is on Lynch, after last year. And, for a 3rd stringer, I thought Beathard did ok. And now we have a former 1st round pick as, presumably, our 4th stringer. And you are b***hing about the depth!

This team, thanks to the ludicrous level of injuries, has shown that it has serious depth. Yes, obviously in these days of salary cap you can't cover every position but having inherited a team with little enough even in the starting role, I am just shaking my head with disbelief at this.

I expect to see all of Shanahan's attention on the starting qb. I don't know why Mullens fell to pieces this year but by picking up Rosen the team has already shown that they are working on it.

I'm scratching my head also. The chances of making or winning a Superbowl are basically zero if your starting QB misses meaningful time. About the only way you can afford to have a starter-quality backup is if you manage to draft one who can sit behind your current starter while he is cheap.

Every other backup is either some guy who can run the same offense and hopefully win more than he loses, or if you are lucky, a guy with the potential to transform into something better than he currently is.

Our big issue is we can't count on anybody to stay healthy. We shouldnt be sitting around worried about backup QBs.

Originally posted by Antix:
Our big issue is we can't count on anybody to stay healthy. We shouldnt be sitting around worried about backup QBs.

In this league it is now a difference maker. Without a decent backup it's all about the tank for draft capital.

Montana went down and who stepped in as backup?

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
I fully respect your comments a thorough and well thought out, however the defense did not seem to suffer in results as badly due to injuries as Kyles offense. And the obvious position in question is the one that fell apart for most of the key moments the team had a chance to get to the post season. Porous OL and poor backup QB play seems like a big miss on the coaching and recruitment after the 2018 season. Kyle/Lynch held on to Beathard and Mullens too long and look what happened.
IMO it feels like Kyle is thinking he can wave his magic wand and any QB can be a winner.....and he might be right with Jimmy. But unless he can get his guy mobile it's going to be the same old story. I hope you are right and Rosen or a draftee can be that man but the NFC West will not be sympathetic.
You can blame injuries but you can't blame poor planning and myopia.

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
Big issue or just an excuse? Why were so many injured? Fool me once by sacking the old conditioning staff. Fool me twice by blaming Covid, injuries and Santa Clara council/ What next?

Truth is Kyle's ego was probably too big to bring in Brady and let Jimmy back him up. That's OK by me as I like Kyle but let's get real about how this current regime is handling things.

It's such a game of inches and look how far they took the team last year, so I hope they take stock, breath and learn so they can go all the way.

Are you mad at Shanny for not bringing in a young fast guy or not bringing in an old slow guy? I'm confused

Originally posted by cortana49:


I thought our big issue was injuries, but maybe that's just me.

Exactly .........we were decimated by injuries.

Originally posted by Antix:
Our big issue is we can't count on anybody to stay healthy. We shouldnt be sitting around worried about backup QBs.

this

Our big issue was our (literally) entire roster being gutted by injuries that no real professional sports team could possibly overcome. No need to overthink it

Originally posted by cortana49:

I thought our big issue was injuries, but maybe that's just me.

This. Don't forget our franchise QB that has missed 19 games over the past 3 years and has played below average.

Our big issue was QB play from all the QBs, they all need to be upgraded

Originally posted by Midbay:
Are you mad at Shanny for not bringing in a young fast guy or not bringing in an old slow guy? I'm confused

LOL. Was waiting patently to see if anyone noticed.

To help with your confusion I am not mad with this coach as he is no doubt very very clever. But you cannot do it all and the mistakes do show their ugly head when you have a losing season.

There is no chance the Shanny way would have room for Brady but if he did the team could be in a different place come the SB. You can't have it both ways as a fan so not mad there......but if he did and Jimmy or a rook like Rosen could develop under a Brady then voila.,,,still not mad but made me think.

I would definitely get mad if no attempt is made to get a better or more mobile QB.

Originally posted by AceDuce49:

Originally posted by cortana49:


I thought our big issue was injuries, but maybe that's just me.

This. Don't forget our franchise QB that has missed 19 games over the past 3 years and has played below average.

Does this never happen in football? Problem focused or solution focused. Which is it?

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Yeah I have to agree English, the issue with the 3rd starting QB doesn't seem to rise to the level of urgency for what the team should address.

Why Not? We know that Jimmy G has had a history of injuries and missed games because of that. Why wasn't the backup QB situation addressed in a better way? Sticking to Mullens and Beathard is one thing. You can make the case that because KS system is complicated, it takes a new QB time to learn it, so hanging on to Mullens/Beathard was the right move. But KS committed too long to Mullens. In the few games Beathard started, he was arguably better then Mullens who fell to pieces in some games. In retrospect, Beathard should have been second string and Mullens 3rd or not on the team at all. KS did a great job with the depth in most positions but seemed to have passed on the QB position in terms of improving the depth there.

Originally posted by cortana49:


I thought our big issue was injuries, but maybe that's just me.

Indeed the issue was injuries. And especially in the QB position where u have a starting QB with a history of injuries. Why wasn't the backup QB upgraded by KS?

Originally posted by English:
So, let me get this clear, you guys are b***hing about our 3rd string quarterback? Because Mullens did ok before, so much so that posters here were talking about trading Garoppolo and starting him, or trading him for a first round pick! Yes, he blew it this year but I can't see that is on Lynch, after last year. And, for a 3rd stringer, I thought Beathard did ok. And now we have a former 1st round pick as, presumably, our 4th stringer. And you are b***hing about the depth!

This team, thanks to the ludicrous level of injuries, has shown that it has serious depth. Yes, obviously in these days of salary cap you can't cover every position but having inherited a team with little enough even in the starting role, I am just shaking my head with disbelief at this.

I expect to see all of Shanahan's attention on the starting qb. I don't know why Mullens fell to pieces this year but by picking up Rosen the team has already shown that they are working on it.

No, I think you have gotten it wrong. No one is b** about the 3rd string QB. In fact, if anything, the 3rd string QB should have been the clear back up and the 2nd string QB should not have been on the team. Don't know why KS did not see this. 2nd and 3rd stringers are what they are. They can mostly play to a level that is below the starter (unless their name is Tom Brady), however, the team can still get backups who can collectively perform better then the 2 we had. Injuries are a given. We had way more then our fair share. But our defense as a whole was not nearly as affected as our offense. How do you explain that? They had good back ups and a modified scheme to perform well, across most positions.Why did we not have the same thing in the most important position? Right now, who is 100% confident that a fully recovered Jimmy G will start all 16 games next season? Not me. I fully expect at some point next season, a backup QB will start for us. It better not be Mullens and probably not Beathard. And yes, will there be injuries to the OLine too? For sure, I would expect that too. Can a mobile quarterback with a decent arm buy himself more time to make plays if his OLine doesn't hold up? Yes, of course. Why don't we have one? KS know what he can get from a healthy Jimmy G. Its time he spends some attention on the Backup QB position. I think 2019 spoiled him because Jimmy started all the games, and perhaps he did not spend as much attention on upgrading the backup QBs as he should.