Predictions for the coming season

1) Jimmy Garoppolo has been and will be the starting QB week 1. If anyone follows this FO closely, it would have taken the perfect deal for the perfect player for the FO to even 'consider' a deal and even then, 'making' the deal would be very very difficult for them to swallow. A guy like Watson is a triple slap in their own face and they'd be flooded with yeah-but-why questions. 1% chance the Watson trade happens. Don't be surprised if they don't draft a QB at all in this draft either. The odds are massively stacked against them that they'll even get a shot at any of the top 4-5 guys. It's not worth it if you don't get your guy.

2) Mullens & possibly, BeatHard are gone. An UDFA QB will compete with Rosen for the backup spot. Guys like Josh Johnson will be on the PS if COVID rules still apply or on speed dial.

3) The 12th pick will be used and it will be used for a CB or ER.

4) The team will move up to the low 20's in AGL injuries making it the healthiest of the past 7 years but will still be a critical factor in the season (most will blame the QB, however). This is just a chronically injured team that's built on targeting injured moneyball players and speed and quickness (fragile).

5) Free agency will once again be limited to our own players and just a couple/few of those. Expect another Tom Compton-like off season for outside help. Expect Trent and Verrett and Jones back. Outside chance on K'Waun and Juice. No Bourne or Hyder. Note: There's a strong chance both Richburg and Ford are back for various reasons but mostly injury guarantees. Neither see real snaps. Warner will be extended next off season.

6) The defense will be a little more fun to watch as we'll be bringing more heat and more diverse heat to counter this passing league and contain the mobile QB's in our division. We've seen the blue print sound Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes & Russell Wilson. You bring heat off the edges and use a catcher's mit on the other side and spy behind the 2i with a speedy LB. Warner to blitz an A gap if free.

7) We'll rely on poor starters like Skule, McKivitz and Brunskill again, continue to be one of the worst pass protection units in football and Jimmy will absorb another season of 120+ QB hits despite excellent quick-release scheme and excellent Time to Throw. He'll regress Blaine Gabbert-style and be released next off season with no trade value despite surviving 16 games.

8) Jalen Hurd is going to blow up this year.

9) 9-8 record.

I can dig that list, NC.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by jackburton1:
1. Quarterback stuff: Jimmy will be the starter Week 1. We will acquire another QB at some point in the draft, but not one of the top 4. Josh Rosen will finish a game.
2. We will make a big-ish trade at some point that no one sees coming.
3. We will trade down from #12 and draft Kwity Paye or another edge. We will trade up for someone later that will be seen as a big reach.
4. A lot of starters will get injured, but they will be less severe and most guys won't miss too much time. People will lose their minds over each one.
5. We will sweep the NFC North.
6. We will play in the Wildcard Round.

Sidenote: I don't know where this myth about us picking well in the later rounds comes from. We've hit on Kittle, Warner, Greenlaw, and to a lesser extent DJ Jones. Other than that not a single starter, and the only solid backups are Moore and once in a blue moon Ahkello. I think we've been mediocre at best in the later rounds, and IMO we seriously need to pick it up in that regard.

If your standard is starter or better then yes I can understand how you would feel that way. I feel that's a pretty unrealistic expectation though.

In the late rounds you're looking for depth, guys who can handle limited snaps and contribute, fill in for a few games here and there. From that POV I think we've done well.

And there's also the UDFA's who have contributed that help build up that perception that we get quality later on. Breida, Moseley, Bourne, Wilson, Mullens (to an extent), Dwelley etc.

Reed and Smith were both taken from our PS and contributed elsewhere too so we're not picking absolute scrubs even if we don't get to hold onto all of them.

Also, "late round" is defined as 5th - UDFA. Peters specialty. Those are your depth, long term development projects (usually H-W-S guys but OK football tape) and special teams targets. Nothing more.

Originally posted by Howlett49:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I predict Dee Ford will be hurt. And Arik Armstead will be ass.

Low hanging fruit.

And Jimmy Ward will have zero interceptions but continue to get praised by his elite play that I seem to always miss when I watch the games.

Double

Originally posted by mayo49:
I can dig that list, NC.

Just trying to keep it real based on our FO and team history. We all have our own unmatching plans.

Originally posted by NCommand:
1) Jimmy Garoppolo has been and will be the starting QB week 1. If anyone follows this FO closely, it would have taken the perfect deal for the perfect player for the FO to even 'consider' a deal and even then, 'making' the deal would be very very difficult for them to swallow. A guy like Watson is a triple slap in their own face and they'd be flooded with yeah-but-why questions. 1% chance the Watson trade happens. Don't be surprised if they don't draft a QB at all in this draft either. The odds are massively stacked against them that they'll even get a shot at any of the top 4-5 guys. It's not worth it if you don't get your guy.

2) Mullens & possibly, BeatHard are gone. An UDFA QB will compete with Rosen for the backup spot. Guys like Josh Johnson will be on the PS if COVID rules still apply or on speed dial.

3) The 12th pick will be used and it will be used for a CB or ER.

4) The team will move up to the low 20's in AGL injuries making it the healthiest of the past 7 years but will still be a critical factor in the season (most will blame the QB, however). This is just a chronically injured team that's built on targeting injured moneyball players and speed and quickness (fragile).

5) Free agency will once again be limited to our own players and just a couple/few of those. Expect another Tom Compton-like off season for outside help. Expect Trent and Verrett and Jones back. Outside chance on K'Waun and Juice. No Bourne or Hyder. Note: There's a strong chance both Richburg and Ford are back for various reasons but mostly injury guarantees. Neither see real snaps. Warner will be extended next off season.

6) The defense will be a little more fun to watch as we'll be bringing more heat and more diverse heat to counter this passing league and contain the mobile QB's in our division. We've seen the blue print sound Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes & Russell Wilson. You bring heat off the edges and use a catcher's mit on the other side and spy behind the 2i with a speedy LB. Warner to blitz an A gap if free.

7) We'll rely on poor starters like Skule, McKivitz and Brunskill again, continue to be one of the worst pass protection units in football and Jimmy will absorb another season of 120+ QB hits despite excellent quick-release scheme and excellent Time to Throw. He'll regress Blaine Gabbert-style and be released next off season with no trade value despite surviving 16 games.

8) Jalen Hurd is going to blow up this year.

9) 9-8 record.

Nice post, but a couple differences. We ahve to get real lucky to shed both C and DE. I like chances on 1, prob not the other. If we find a golden rabbit's foot, then both are gone, and that is what we need. Keeping both or even one guy means we got C covered,...which is a false feeling of security because obviously we don't. Same goes for Dee. If there, well, we got our bookend DE...except again,, we really don't. This is all about money and health and since we have had such horrid luck health wise, it would be nice if the football Gods finally favored us.

I know you are posting defensively, but i truly believe we nail down Slater, right after we FA Mack, a guy i wanted in draft, then FA ,and now, ,maybe he makes it here. As for Slater, why not? A lot depends on whether we pick up two OLs in FA but that is highly unlikely. Hence i think kyle agrees with John and Peters and takes Slater.

Lastly, with 3 rd 5 picks I have a hard time believing that lucky 5 won't strike again and we get yet another starter/rotational OL. Maybe more than a wish, but i could see that happening. As for Hurd, if that cat stays healthy i agree he will bring fire and rain to our opponents. God i hope he stays healthy. If so, and no other massive health catastrophes, that will make about 3 Geo Kittles on the field, maybe even 4 if Au Jus resigns. And THAT would be something everyone wants to see.

Originally posted by NCommand:
1) Jimmy Garoppolo has been and will be the starting QB week 1. If anyone follows this FO closely, it would have taken the perfect deal for the perfect player for the FO to even 'consider' a deal and even then, 'making' the deal would be very very difficult for them to swallow. A guy like Watson is a triple slap in their own face and they'd be flooded with yeah-but-why questions. 1% chance the Watson trade happens. Don't be surprised if they don't draft a QB at all in this draft either. The odds are massively stacked against them that they'll even get a shot at any of the top 4-5 guys. It's not worth it if you don't get your guy.

2) Mullens & possibly, BeatHard are gone. An UDFA QB will compete with Rosen for the backup spot. Guys like Josh Johnson will be on the PS if COVID rules still apply or on speed dial.

3) The 12th pick will be used and it will be used for a CB or ER.

4) The team will move up to the low 20's in AGL injuries making it the healthiest of the past 7 years but will still be a critical factor in the season (most will blame the QB, however). This is just a chronically injured team that's built on targeting injured moneyball players and speed and quickness (fragile).

5) Free agency will once again be limited to our own players and just a couple/few of those. Expect another Tom Compton-like off season for outside help. Expect Trent and Verrett and Jones back. Outside chance on K'Waun and Juice. No Bourne or Hyder. Note: There's a strong chance both Richburg and Ford are back for various reasons but mostly injury guarantees. Neither see real snaps. Warner will be extended next off season.

6) The defense will be a little more fun to watch as we'll be bringing more heat and more diverse heat to counter this passing league and contain the mobile QB's in our division. We've seen the blue print sound Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes & Russell Wilson. You bring heat off the edges and use a catcher's mit on the other side and spy behind the 2i with a speedy LB. Warner to blitz an A gap if free.

7) We'll rely on poor starters like Skule, McKivitz and Brunskill again, continue to be one of the worst pass protection units in football and Jimmy will absorb another season of 120+ QB hits despite excellent quick-release scheme and excellent Time to Throw. He'll regress Blaine Gabbert-style and be released next off season with no trade value despite surviving 16 games.

8) Jalen Hurd is going to blow up this year.

9) 9-8 record.

Agree with everything but #7. I think they will go OLine with their first pick (after trading down because Mac or another Kyle Shanahan prototype QB) was taken ahead of the 12th pick. I can see an OLine and DE picked if they manage to get a second first round pick in the first round if they trade down.

Agree with #2, but if their QB guy is there (for example Mac or another QB that they really like) I can see them picking a QB with that #12 pick. Also, i agree with you, I think if they retain BeatHard *and* Rosen, I dont see them picking a QB in this years draft.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Jimmy g and Rosen. Not even a rookie? I'd be extremely disappointed in that. s**t almost made me cry thinking about it.

With a strong O-line, I could live with that. Just imagine that Super Bowl if we didn't have Mike Person out there at RG. Upgrades at C and RG would do wonders for the functioning of this offense.

1) I agree and co-sign unless guys starting falling down that board past pick 6.

2) Agreed. No need in going forward. We've seen his best. Behind the rebuilt O-line, he'd probably look competent, but that arm will always limit him.

3) Seems that way. Hope Rosen gets his act together. I don't expect a great player. Just a good backup. He will have enough talent around him to do that. If he can't, he'll be out of the league.

4) I disagree, but only depends on who is available and if they are in striking distance before we get to 12.

5) See 1 and 4.

6) Agree 100%.

7) Agree also. I'm not so sure about several rookie starters however. If things go the way I'd like, the only rookie starter will be at RG. Someone else could surprise and knock someone off, but if all things go the way I hope, the only starter will be at RG. However, I hope we can have multiple rookies contributing a significant amount of snaps next year.

I think we will have a DROY candidate if we go edge in the first or second. Said player will have free reign to really make an impact playing opposite of Bosa.

During free agency and the draft, some guys in here will lose their s**t

1. Dee ford won't play a snap.
2. Hurd won't play a snap.
3. Oline will be ass.
4. The defense well be ass.
5. Mostert will play 8 full games.
6. Deebo will play 9 full games
7. 7-9record. Shanahan gets a pass on another below average season.

Originally posted by NCommand:

1) Jimmy Garoppolo has been and will be the starting QB week 1. If anyone follows this FO closely, it would have taken the perfect deal for the perfect player for the FO to even 'consider' a deal and even then, 'making' the deal would be very very difficult for them to swallow. A guy like Watson is a triple slap in their own face and they'd be flooded with yeah-but-why questions. 1% chance the Watson trade happens. Don't be surprised if they don't draft a QB at all in this draft either. The odds are massively stacked against them that they'll even get a shot at any of the top 4-5 guys. It's not worth it if you don't get your guy.

2) Mullens & possibly, BeatHard are gone. An UDFA QB will compete with Rosen for the backup spot. Guys like Josh Johnson will be on the PS if COVID rules still apply or on speed dial.

3) The 12th pick will be used and it will be used for a CB or ER.

4) The team will move up to the low 20's in AGL injuries making it the healthiest of the past 7 years but will still be a critical factor in the season (most will blame the QB, however). This is just a chronically injured team that's built on targeting injured moneyball players and speed and quickness (fragile).

5) Free agency will once again be limited to our own players and just a couple/few of those. Expect another Tom Compton-like off season for outside help. Expect Trent and Verrett and Jones back. Outside chance on K'Waun and Juice. No Bourne or Hyder. Note: There's a strong chance both Richburg and Ford are back for various reasons but mostly injury guarantees. Neither see real snaps. Warner will be extended next off season.

6) The defense will be a little more fun to watch as we'll be bringing more heat and more diverse heat to counter this passing league and contain the mobile QB's in our division. We've seen the blue print sound Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes & Russell Wilson. You bring heat off the edges and use a catcher's mit on the other side and spy behind the 2i with a speedy LB. Warner to blitz an A gap if free.

7) We'll rely on poor starters like Skule, McKivitz and Brunskill again, continue to be one of the worst pass protection units in football and Jimmy will absorb another season of 120+ QB hits despite excellent quick-release scheme and excellent Time to Throw. He'll regress Blaine Gabbert-style and be released next off season with no trade value despite surviving 16 games.

8) Jalen Hurd is going to blow up this year.

9) 9-8 record.

Dang NC that's depressing.

Originally posted by susweel:
Dang NC that's depressing.

LOL. I guess you're right. I just call it how I've seen it.

When Lynch says we love so n so and he'll be a 49er, that means that dude will be gone

With the amount of unknowns at this point it's hard to make predictions with any certainty about win records etc. It's not just what happens with the 49ers either. The low salary cap and the limited space a number fo teams have (and haven't been able to plan for over a period of a couple of years) is going to make it a more volatile off season than many of the previous. Whilst it's hard to guess what the 49ers look like come September, it's the same for a number of teams.

With the 49ers the big unknowns are what happens at QB and which free agents they re-sign. There's so many directions in which they can go with this that I'm finding to hard to predict what happens. As such, the knock on of those effects of those decision on individual performances in 2021 and team performance in 2021 is hard to evaluate at this stage. I expect thing will be much easier to evaluate in the next 6 weeks or so.

At the point it feels like to me that the QB situation dictates a lot of what happens elsewhere. Drafting a QB to start opens up cap space to re-sign more free agents. At the same time there's a scenario where you are signing key free agents to win now, whilst risking it all on a rookie QB. If they stick with Garopollo (which I think is the safer bet as a prediction), it then comes down to where they think they can plug gaps through free agency or the draft. Personally I think Williams and Juice are key signings. But that leaves some glaring holes that would need to be filled with players in the draft who are ready to impact from Day1.

Richburg and Dee Ford are the other 2 big considerations. Going to be much harder to be competitive if funds are being channeled in their direction (no fault of the players by the way) and they aren't on the field. That's magnified by a smaller than usual salary cap (compared to what would have been expected 118-24 months ago).

Originally posted by LVJay:
When Lynch says we love so n so and he'll be a 49er, that means that dude will be gone

No way, Jimmy's not going anywhere