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plethora? Are you angry at something else and you want to take it out on us guapo ?
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49ers release DT Zach Kerr
Jul 9, 2021 at 2:58 PM
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Jul 9, 2021 at 3:17 PM
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I loved this signing since day 1, dude can play the Big End, 3T and 1T, going to be very valuable in the new defense under Ryans, and with Kris Kocurek as his DL Coach.
Jul 9, 2021 at 6:04 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by elguapo:plethora? Are you angry at something else and you want to take it out on us guapo ?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Most underrated offseason acquisition
Do people realize he had the HIGHEST grade of any Carolina defender last year![]()
we have 4 starting DTs.
Kinlaw
Kerr
AA
DJ Jones
I think you could add Hurst to that as well...I was a big fan of him coming out of college. I have no idea why Oakland cut him, his health has been fine.
Yeah Hurst should probably be considered a starter at DT on a plethora of teams too. Make that 5


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Jul 9, 2021 at 6:05 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NYniner85:same, burnt in my brain forever
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
plethora? Are you angry at something else and you want to take it out on us guapo ?
Every time I hear the world plethora. I think of this movie![]()
Exactly. A major reason I picked that name.
Jul 9, 2021 at 6:10 PM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I loved this signing since day 1, dude can play the Big End, 3T and 1T, going to be very valuable in the new defense under Ryans, and with Kris Kocurek as his DL Coach.
The 49ers haven't used a base big end or 1t in 2 years.


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Jul 9, 2021 at 7:31 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I loved this signing since day 1, dude can play the Big End, 3T and 1T, going to be very valuable in the new defense under Ryans, and with Kris Kocurek as his DL Coach.
The 49ers haven't used a base big end or 1t in 2 years.The big end is a heads-up alignment from the end that was in the past used to 2-gap. That spot was filled by a traditional 3-4 defensive end(ie the original big end: Red Bryant)--hence the name big end. That's gone. Next, the wide 9 uses a 2i nose tackle instead of a 1t. Technical semantics? Yes. But I hold my fellow fans to a higher standard.
This. I feel like I'm constantly pounding the table for players like Kerr and Jones. No matter the scheme I love having these stout athletic bowling ball DT's that use their hands, re-establish the line of scrimmage, can shoot gaps, and occasionally rush the passer.
Maybe it's because I played DT in HS but I just don't think people realize how important these two players are for our team. Losing Jones would have been a big blow to our defense and not only did we keep him but we added another underrated player just like him.
Hurst might be the bigger name but Jones and Kerr are just as important going forward IMO.
Jul 10, 2021 at 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I loved this signing since day 1, dude can play the Big End, 3T and 1T, going to be very valuable in the new defense under Ryans, and with Kris Kocurek as his DL Coach.
The 49ers haven't used a base big end or 1t in 2 years.The big end is a heads-up alignment from the end that was in the past used to 2-gap. That spot was filled by a traditional 3-4 defensive end(ie the original big end: Red Bryant)--hence the name big end. That's gone. Next, the wide 9 uses a 2i nose tackle instead of a 1t. Technical semantics? Yes. But I hold my fellow fans to a higher standard.
MIND BLOWN DUDE. Whatever they're called Kerr can play them, I just loved the signing, no worries understand on the higher standard thing, lol
I'm with Waterbear, I love having guys like Kerr & Jones on the roster, Kerr is versatile, while Jones is deceptively fast for a guy his size, in 2019 when he ran down and sacked Murray, WOW, I think he may have done it twice.
Nov 6, 2021 at 6:01 PM
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I just saw the 49ers released Kerr. Dude was terrible.
Nov 6, 2021 at 6:07 PM
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Nov 6, 2021 at 6:08 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
I just saw the 49ers released Kerr. Dude was terrible.
Wow. What happened to this guy. He was rated reslly well last year.
Nov 6, 2021 at 7:01 PM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I loved this signing since day 1, dude can play the Big End, 3T and 1T, going to be very valuable in the new defense under Ryans, and with Kris Kocurek as his DL Coach.
The 49ers haven't used a base big end or 1t in 2 years.The big end is a heads-up alignment from the end that was in the past used to 2-gap. That spot was filled by a traditional 3-4 defensive end(ie the original big end: Red Bryant)--hence the name big end. That's gone. Next, the wide 9 uses a 2i nose tackle instead of a 1t. Technical semantics? Yes. But I hold my fellow fans to a higher standard.
MIND BLOWN DUDE. Whatever they're called Kerr can play them, I just loved the signing, no worries understand on the higher standard thing, lol
I'm with Waterbear, I love having guys like Kerr & Jones on the roster, Kerr is versatile, while Jones is deceptively fast for a guy his size, in 2019 when he ran down and sacked Murray, WOW, I think he may have done it twice.
I'll admit it, I was dead wrong, I thought he'd be better than he was, such a shame,

Nov 6, 2021 at 8:51 PM
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Pure garbage player. Man how badly the IDL was overrated. Hurst is always hurt. Street Givens and Kerr just aren't very good. Dj is the only IDL playing well. And we wonder why Fred isn't making any plays
Nov 6, 2021 at 8:54 PM
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a shame this dude sucked
Nov 6, 2021 at 9:24 PM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Pure garbage player. Man how badly the IDL was overrated. Hurst is always hurt. Street Givens and Kerr just aren't very good. Dj is the only IDL playing well. And we wonder why Fred isn't making any plays
Kerr was bad, I wish Hurst could stay healthy, as for Street & Givens, they're good for what they are, Street has been getting good pressure into the backfield, we need to look into drafting some IDL, pray to god DJ re-signs, I want to see Darrion Daniels on the 53 badly, he has potential. I have faith that Kinlaw will come back stronger, and to those who say Armstead is done, he isn't, 1. he's a damn good player, is he $17M a yr good, no, but he's played very well, and 2. the lack of depth on the IDL, same with Ward at FS, he's here for 2022.
Nov 6, 2021 at 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Wow. What happened to this guy. He was rated reslly well last year.
The dude struggled mightily to hold up in the scheme. Every time I watched Kerr, he was getting totally washed out.
Because the wide 9 is only a 4-man front and so spaced out, there are some MASSIVE bubbles for the offense to attack. Those 2 interior DL are under constant pressure to defeat double teams vs runs like inside zone, duo, etc. The 49ers may need to blow up and rebuild their entire IDL personnel group outside of DJ Jones and Javon Kinlaw this offseason. I think we need more big, beefy IDL that defeat double teams in multiple ways and less undersized pure penetrators like Street and Givens because those guys rely too much on knifing doubles and struggle to consistently hold up when OL get hands on them.
This is likely why the team loved Javon Kinlaw. He's a rare athlete that has the athleticism to explode and attack while also being big and strong enough to defeat double teams in run defense. Unfortunately, Kinlaw is falling apart.

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