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Should the 49ers trade JG this year?

We pushed and shoved, then did it some more to get our team ready for a sB run. But that is with Jimmy. No matter who we pick, Jimmy should be the QB ...unless...he gets the unlucky injury again. Otherwise, it is JImmy all yr....and i hope every game.
  • mayo49
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If the pick is Jones then you trade Jimmy - if it's Fields then you keep him this year.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Mar 31, 2021 at 4:39 PM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
If the pick is Jones then you trade Jimmy - if it's Fields then you keep him this year.

I don't understand this take. Fields has started 22 college games. Jones has started 17. What makes Jones more ready?
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
At this point, you have to trade him. All the lip service about he's our guy "this year" is getting tired.
Im sure the trade will happen closer to the draft.
at least he made millions

So if we draft a rookie QB at #3 then trade away Jimmy, we basically go from a Super Bowl contending team to one with a rookie acclimating in his first year to the next level complexities and speed of the NFL. Which is to say that we will probably be lucky to make the playoffs. I don't know why so many fans think trading away Jimmy will make us a better team. The real issue are his injuries. If he stays on the field, his record with the Niners is 22-8. That includes a bunch of games where he was clearly still injured like the Seadderall game last year. If he's healthy, I don't want the rookie QB learning on the job in 2021.
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by mayo49:
If the pick is Jones then you trade Jimmy - if it's Fields then you keep him this year.

I don't understand this take. Fields has started 22 college games. Jones has started 17. What makes Jones more ready?

Perception, plus it's a double edge sword with athleticism. Because the knock on Jones is that he isnt athletic... people give him more credit for going through reads and getting the ball out despite his athletic limitations. Because Fields is more athletic, people say he didnt have to go through his reads cause he could just run. But is that because he took what the defense gave him? Is it because everyone was covered? etc.

Everyone attaches their own narratives to different situations and we wont really know the truth of these narratives for another couple years.
New to posting here but have read thousands of posts in this forum.
I may have missed anyone bringing up this point.
If there is at least a 50-50 (probably higher) chance that a drafted QB busts, what sense would it make to assume that the team avoided a drafting bust?
And if you can't be positive (which you can't) that you avoided a bust, how could you possibly consider trading JG?
Originally posted by Lott42:
New to posting here but have read thousands of posts in this forum.
I may have missed anyone bringing up this point.
If there is at least a 50-50 (probably higher) chance that a drafted QB busts, what sense would it make to assume that the team avoided a drafting bust?
And if you can't be positive (which you can't) that you avoided a bust, how could you possibly consider trading JG?

We won't know if the QB we draft is a bust for a few years, but if we're trading JG before the draft or before the season then we're basically saying that we're looking towards the future and think that getting the rookie QB experience is worth the risk of possibly not being able compete this year.

Also, take the 50/50 number with a grain of salt. Yes, about 50% of QBs drafted are busts, but most of those guys go to bad teams and bad organizations and that can have a huge impact on the chances a QB has of succeeding. The QB that we draft is coming to a much better situation than the average rookie drafted in the top 5.
I get that. I just contend that the sensible thing to do is to keep a known commodity, when healthy, and hedge your bet.
Some people have their positions on why it is a good idea to trade JG. I just never hear them factor in that the draft pick COULD be a bust.
I would love for the team to have a better QB a.s.a.p.
But also don't want to throw away next season or future seasons on an assumption.
And most, not all of course, agree that Shanahan has a system that requires around a year to really grasp.
  • fropwns
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Rarely does the redemption in life story play out like we think it should, just ask the Bills in the 1990s or last years 49ers. I think the Niners are going to get a first for him....this year and we are going to start Jones (my heart wants Wilson, my mind says Jones) and that dude is going to take us to the playoffs and win. I am not sure how far he will go, but with the weapons around him, he does not have to be Justin Fields, he just has to be Mac Jones.

If I was betting who gives up the pick, I would say one of the following will do it: Broncos at 9 (I think they trade down from 9 and then trade whatever they get in the first round for Jimmy G--I just can't see them doing it at the 9 spot), Patriots at 15, WFT at 19, or the Bears at 20.

I also think there are two wild cards:

Pittsburgh at 24 (Big Ben! Yeah, I know, I know, but he is dying, I could see something happening where they some how get Jimmy on the team to replace Ben.)

New Orleans Saints at 28. (Salary cap woes, I know, but I could see them doing it).
[ Edited by fropwns on Apr 1, 2021 at 1:15 PM ]
A midseason trade with a QB needy team in the playoff hunt might bring the best value in a trade. There is always a team or two that need a QB because of injury that have playoff aspirations. You could get a first round pick easily for Jimmy if the right situation arose. Its not a likely scenario but Its certainly possible. It really comes down to how well Jimmy is playing and how ready the Rookie QB is.
It's better if the 49ers keep him, but a first round pick — particular one that might be higher — just might be worth it.

But fortunately no one is that dumb, given that Jimmy will be gone next year or the year after. Only if someone is desperate due to injury in training camp is this remotely likely.
Yes for less than a 2nd rounder
Wait until Cam Newton either struggles badly or gets injured which both are a possibility and Belichick gets desperate and offers a 2022 1st RD pick.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Wait until Cam Newton either struggles badly or gets injured which both are a possibility and Belichick gets desperate and offers a 2022 1st RD pick.

you act as if Jimmy is more durable than Cam lol.... more than likely Jimmy will get injured before cam..
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Wait until Cam Newton either struggles badly or gets injured which both are a possibility and Belichick gets desperate and offers a 2022 1st RD pick.
Because Belichick clearly has a history of making moves such as trading a first round pick to a team whom he knows is letting go the guy in question, the next year.
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