Should the 49ers trade JG this year?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
If they trade JG, they need to sign or trade for a vet to start this year

Who isn't going to be versed enough in this offense to lead us anywhere. If we trade Garoppolo we're essentially throwing this season out the window. We have too many veterans ready to win now in 2021 to do that. We will keep Jimmy and see what he can do with one more shot, and have the insurance plan and future waiting in the wings learning the system.

Exactly what they should do.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is a tough question. I'm not sure how much they could get for him after being injured 2 out of the last 3 years. Not just injured, but missed a majority of the games. That's not what teams are looking for. If they could get a 2nd rounder for him I'd probably do it. Of course that would mean starting a rookie of JoshRosen for at least the first half of the season.

If they let him play another year, he could have another season like 2019 and his trade value would be higher. Maybe a 1st rounder or 2 seconds. The danger is he gets hurt again and then he's worthless. No trade value at all. It's obvious that Jimmy isn't n their long term plans. They wouldn't trade away 2 first round picks for a backup.

The difference in value between what he would be worth if he missed time for an injury versus what he is worth now is likely less than people might think. Given his injury history and lack of a deep resume of performance, we would be lucky to get a 3rd for him now.

The logical thing to do is keep him, let him start, and hope he plays well. In the meantime, let the rookie sit and learn. The idea that a really talented rookie could come in and win ball games is sketchy at best. Patrick Mahomes said he was lucky to be able to sit and learn from Alex Smith, without that he would have been lost.

We COULD trade Jimmy for a first or second, but I think it's in our best interest to keep Jimmy as a hedge against this Rookie QB.

This Rookie QB is a huge investment. He'll still be on a rookie contract, but at #3, he'll be an expensive rookie. Solomon Thomas was a fully guaranteed $28M contract in 2017. We need to do what we can to ensure that he develops the way he should, and having him learn Shanahan's complex offense behind Jimmy for a year would be ideal.

And then secondly, if it turns out that this rookie isn't developing as he should, we have the option of rolling with Jimmy in 2022. And it'd hurt if it happens, but if the kid is a total bust, we could conceivably re-sign Jimmy for 2023 onwards and cut/trade this rookie.

I think it makes perfect sense to keep Jimmy for upcoming year. I think we'll draft Lance and let him sit next year. This allows Jimmy to try to regain his pre ACL form which will only help improve his trade value but also ensures he gets a shot at starting/bigger salary with his next team.

It's all starting to make sense...

Got to trade Jimmy and give the team to the rookie.

If they're offered a 2nd rounder, I think they must take that offer. This doesn't necessarily mean they have to start a rookie either.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is a tough question. I'm not sure how much they could get for him after being injured 2 out of the last 3 years. Not just injured, but missed a majority of the games. That's not what teams are looking for. If they could get a 2nd rounder for him I'd probably do it. Of course that would mean starting a rookie of JoshRosen for at least the first half of the season.

If they let him play another year, he could have another season like 2019 and his trade value would be higher. Maybe a 1st rounder or 2 seconds. The danger is he gets hurt again and then he's worthless. No trade value at all. It's obvious that Jimmy isn't n their long term plans. They wouldn't trade away 2 first round picks for a backup.

The difference in value between what he would be worth if he missed time for an injury versus what he is worth now is likely less than people might think. Given his injury history and lack of a deep resume of performance, we would be lucky to get a 3rd for him now.

The logical thing to do is keep him, let him start, and hope he plays well. In the meantime, let the rookie sit and learn. The idea that a really talented rookie could come in and win ball games is sketchy at best. Patrick Mahomes said he was lucky to be able to sit and learn from Alex Smith, without that he would have been lost.

I do not disagree with what you said, but is it worth paying Jimmy G $24M this year, this is the question. Will Jimmy G take a salary reduction to remain in SF this season, maybe a reduction but an amount that is at or more than what he can get if he is in an open market. I am not sure a salary reduction can work out. Perhaps it is still beneficial for Jimmy G to stay in SF, play under Kyle, have a good season, and he can get pay next offseason. It does seem like SF and NE are the best spot for Jimmy G right now, but if NE do want him, Jimmy G may not take the salary reduction in SF. There are a lot of factors. Either way, if we need to pay Jimmy G $24M this year, I am not sure we should keep him.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I do not disagree with what you said, but is it worth paying Jimmy G $24M this year, this is the question. Will Jimmy G take a salary reduction to remain in SF this season, maybe a reduction but an amount that is at or more than what he can get if he is in an open market. I am not sure a salary reduction can work out. Perhaps it is still beneficial for Jimmy G to stay in SF, play under Kyle, have a good season, and he can get pay next offseason. It does seem like SF and NE are the best spot for Jimmy G right now, but if NE do want him, Jimmy G may not take the salary reduction in SF. There are a lot of factors. Either way, if we need to pay Jimmy G $24M this year, I am not sure we should keep him.

It's definitely a cost-savings to unload Jimmy, but who are you making room for? I'd say all the top free agents are gone now. We are most likely able to re-sign Fred Warner next year without having to get rid of Jimmy this year.

Keeping Jmmy for one year is the way to go. unless we get a good trade offer.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I do not disagree with what you said, but is it worth paying Jimmy G $24M this year, this is the question. Will Jimmy G take a salary reduction to remain in SF this season, maybe a reduction but an amount that is at or more than what he can get if he is in an open market. I am not sure a salary reduction can work out. Perhaps it is still beneficial for Jimmy G to stay in SF, play under Kyle, have a good season, and he can get pay next offseason. It does seem like SF and NE are the best spot for Jimmy G right now, but if NE do want him, Jimmy G may not take the salary reduction in SF. There are a lot of factors. Either way, if we need to pay Jimmy G $24M this year, I am not sure we should keep him.

It's definitely a cost-savings to unload Jimmy, but who are you making room for? I'd say all the top free agents are gone now. We are most likely able to re-sign Fred Warner next year without having to get rid of Jimmy this year.

Keeping Jmmy for one year is the way to go. unless we get a good trade offer.

We don't need the cap space this year unless it would be used during the season to sign someone as a replacement. It could be carried over to next year.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We don't need the cap space this year unless it would be used during the season to sign someone as a replacement. It could be carried over to next year.

Being able to use it for next year is a possibility. In the next few years, we have to re-sign Warner, Bosa, Deebo, McGlinchey, Greenlaw...

But all in all, we DO have a contending team with a QB (when healthy) has been able to get us to the Super Bowl. We have great hope for this rookie QB, but what happens if he's Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf?

We obviously don't want a bust. But at least if we have Jimmy by Week 1, we can still be competitive and we can still hedge against a QB bust.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is a tough question. I'm not sure how much they could get for him after being injured 2 out of the last 3 years. Not just injured, but missed a majority of the games. That's not what teams are looking for. If they could get a 2nd rounder for him I'd probably do it. Of course that would mean starting a rookie of JoshRosen for at least the first half of the season.

If they let him play another year, he could have another season like 2019 and his trade value would be higher. Maybe a 1st rounder or 2 seconds. The danger is he gets hurt again and then he's worthless. No trade value at all. It's obvious that Jimmy isn't n their long term plans. They wouldn't trade away 2 first round picks for a backup.

The difference in value between what he would be worth if he missed time for an injury versus what he is worth now is likely less than people might think. Given his injury history and lack of a deep resume of performance, we would be lucky to get a 3rd for him now.

The logical thing to do is keep him, let him start, and hope he plays well. In the meantime, let the rookie sit and learn. The idea that a really talented rookie could come in and win ball games is sketchy at best. Patrick Mahomes said he was lucky to be able to sit and learn from Alex Smith, without that he would have been lost.

I do not disagree with what you said, but is it worth paying Jimmy G $24M this year, this is the question. Will Jimmy G take a salary reduction to remain in SF this season, maybe a reduction but an amount that is at or more than what he can get if he is in an open market. I am not sure a salary reduction can work out. Perhaps it is still beneficial for Jimmy G to stay in SF, play under Kyle, have a good season, and he can get pay next offseason. It does seem like SF and NE are the best spot for Jimmy G right now, but if NE do want him, Jimmy G may not take the salary reduction in SF. There are a lot of factors. Either way, if we need to pay Jimmy G $24M this year, I am not sure we should keep him.

The good news is, we do not need him to take a reduction this season. We already sit with more than enough cap room to go through the season.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This is a tough question. I'm not sure how much they could get for him after being injured 2 out of the last 3 years. Not just injured, but missed a majority of the games. That's not what teams are looking for. If they could get a 2nd rounder for him I'd probably do it. Of course that would mean starting a rookie of JoshRosen for at least the first half of the season.

If they let him play another year, he could have another season like 2019 and his trade value would be higher. Maybe a 1st rounder or 2 seconds. The danger is he gets hurt again and then he's worthless. No trade value at all. It's obvious that Jimmy isn't n their long term plans. They wouldn't trade away 2 first round picks for a backup.

The difference in value between what he would be worth if he missed time for an injury versus what he is worth now is likely less than people might think. Given his injury history and lack of a deep resume of performance, we would be lucky to get a 3rd for him now.

The logical thing to do is keep him, let him start, and hope he plays well. In the meantime, let the rookie sit and learn. The idea that a really talented rookie could come in and win ball games is sketchy at best. Patrick Mahomes said he was lucky to be able to sit and learn from Alex Smith, without that he would have been lost.

I do not disagree with what you said, but is it worth paying Jimmy G $24M this year, this is the question. Will Jimmy G take a salary reduction to remain in SF this season, maybe a reduction but an amount that is at or more than what he can get if he is in an open market. I am not sure a salary reduction can work out. Perhaps it is still beneficial for Jimmy G to stay in SF, play under Kyle, have a good season, and he can get pay next offseason. It does seem like SF and NE are the best spot for Jimmy G right now, but if NE do want him, Jimmy G may not take the salary reduction in SF. There are a lot of factors. Either way, if we need to pay Jimmy G $24M this year, I am not sure we should keep him.

The good news is, we do not need him to take a reduction this season. We already sit with more than enough cap room to go through the season.

It is never about this season. The $24M can be carry over for future seasons.

They should keep him unless someone offers a first round.
The Niners can win the Superbowl with JG or at least be contenders.

Originally posted by pdc20:
They should keep him unless someone offers a first round.
The Niners can win the Superbowl with JG or at least be contenders.

No one in their right mind is offering a first round pick for Jimmy. Too bad Bill O Brien is gone from the Texans FO, because he is the only one who could've done offered that.

No, they shouldn't. They are a SB contending team with him. Got to go for it. Trade him after this season