Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

The Jimmy G triple spin pic.twitter.com/rypzDvrJGK

— Bill Barnwell (@billbarnwell) September 14, 2020

knew I've seen that

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

The Jimmy G triple spin pic.twitter.com/rypzDvrJGK

— Bill Barnwell (@billbarnwell) September 14, 2020

knew I've seen that

How in the world have teams not been knocking down our door to get him yet?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I stake my scouting reputation on those statements.

wait a f**kin minute…..

lol I'm pretty sure we saw Jimmy do the same thing....not sure what game it was from

The Jimmy G triple spin pic.twitter.com/rypzDvrJGK

— Bill Barnwell (@billbarnwell) September 14, 2020

knew I've seen that

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by genus49:
IMO here are the things that make QBs successful in the NFL

Talent
Coaching
Supporting cast
Determination and work ethic
Intelligence

By all accounts Trey has all of those so he's definitely setup for success and if he puts in the effort the rest should fall into place.

Another big thing which really cannot be foreseen until the player is actually out there is how does he deal with the lows of the game. Getting hit often, if the team isn't as great as maybe he had before but not much we can do about these things until he's in those situations and ideally you don't want to see him in that situation.

In his short sample size he did show that adversity wasn't something that causes him to shell up and cry but it was a short sample size.

Overall I think we're trending in a really good direction and I think we have the coaches and talent to help Trey along the way.

Your list is off to a good start, but I would add/amend the following:

Talent
Coaching
Supporting cast
work ethic
Intelligence
fortitude/toughness
leadership
luck

I think fortitude is critical to overcoming adversity, toughness being related, and leadership to glue a team together are really important aspects. And luck is just an aspect that a QBs is in no control over, but can define a career.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by genus49:
IMO here are the things that make QBs successful in the NFL

Talent
Coaching
Supporting cast
Determination and work ethic
Intelligence

By all accounts Trey has all of those so he's definitely setup for success and if he puts in the effort the rest should fall into place.

Another big thing which really cannot be foreseen until the player is actually out there is how does he deal with the lows of the game. Getting hit often, if the team isn't as great as maybe he had before but not much we can do about these things until he's in those situations and ideally you don't want to see him in that situation.

In his short sample size he did show that adversity wasn't something that causes him to shell up and cry but it was a short sample size.

Overall I think we're trending in a really good direction and I think we have the coaches and talent to help Trey along the way.

Your list is off to a good start, but I would add/amend the following:

Talent
Coaching
Supporting cast
work ethic
Intelligence
fortitude/toughness
leadership
luck

I think fortitude is critical to overcoming adversity, toughness being related, and leadership to glue a team together are really important aspects. And luck is just an aspect that a QBs is in no control over, but can define a career.

Luck is a major factor.

Would Tom Brady have become an all time great if Drew Bledsoe didn't get injured, or his fumble against the Raiders in the AFC championship game wasn't incorrectly called a forward pass?

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by genus49:
IMO here are the things that make QBs successful in the NFL

Talent
Coaching
Supporting cast
Determination and work ethic
Intelligence

By all accounts Trey has all of those so he's definitely setup for success and if he puts in the effort the rest should fall into place.

Another big thing which really cannot be foreseen until the player is actually out there is how does he deal with the lows of the game. Getting hit often, if the team isn't as great as maybe he had before but not much we can do about these things until he's in those situations and ideally you don't want to see him in that situation.

In his short sample size he did show that adversity wasn't something that causes him to shell up and cry but it was a short sample size.

Overall I think we're trending in a really good direction and I think we have the coaches and talent to help Trey along the way.

Your list is off to a good start, but I would add/amend the following:

Talent
Coaching
Supporting cast
work ethic
Intelligence
fortitude/toughness
leadership
luck

I think fortitude is critical to overcoming adversity, toughness being related, and leadership to glue a team together are really important aspects. And luck is just an aspect that a QBs is in no control over, but can define a career.

Luck is a major factor.

Would Tom Brady have become an all time great if Drew Bledsoe didn't get injured, or his fumble against the Raiders in the AFC championship game wasn't incorrectly called a forward pass?

In that doc series of his, Man In The Arena, Brady said that if they didn't win that game against the Raiders, the fumble would've kept him on the bench and Bledsoe would've been the starter next season.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Former NFL scout with his thoughts on Trey Lance. pic.twitter.com/9d6EBYrClc

— Jason Aponte (@JasonAponte2103) May 6, 2022

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NFL projections

Lance had 603 yards on 71 attempts.
If we assume 71 attempts as 2 games worth that would be around 35 attempts per game...
He had 603 yards.
603 / 2 = 302
302 x 17 = 5134 pass yards in 2022

35 would be a lot of attempts but not unusual Bills averaged 38 per game..

Would be nice to give him a lot of throws to ramp up the learning curve / development... in other words...

LET TREY SAUTE

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NFL projections

Lance had 603 yards on 71 attempts.
If we assume 71 attempts as 2 games worth that would be around 35 attempts per game...
He had 603 yards.
603 / 2 = 302
302 x 17 = 5134 pass yards in 2022

35 would be a lot of attempts but not unusual Bills averaged 38 per game..

Would be nice to give him a lot of throws to ramp up the learning curve / development... in other words...

LET TREY SAUTE

His stats were from 2.5 games against Seattle, AZ, and Texans, plus 1 5-yard td pass against Detroit & 15-yard td run against. GB.

That would be about 240 yards per game/ 4,100 yards in a season, which is on par with Jimmy's per game averages.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Former NFL scout with his thoughts on Trey Lance. pic.twitter.com/9d6EBYrClc

— Jason Aponte (@JasonAponte2103) May 6, 2022

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NFL projections

Lance had 603 yards on 71 attempts.
If we assume 71 attempts as 2 games worth that would be around 35 attempts per game...
He had 603 yards.
603 / 2 = 302
302 x 17 = 5134 pass yards in 2022

35 would be a lot of attempts but not unusual Bills averaged 38 per game..

Would be nice to give him a lot of throws to ramp up the learning curve / development... in other words...

LET TREY SAUTE

His stats were from 2.5 games against Seattle, AZ, and Texans, plus 1 5-yard td pass against Detroit & 15-yard td run against. GB.

That would be about 240 yards per game/ 4,100 yards in a season, which is on par with Jimmy's per game averages.

Yup. I think we can ramp up the throws per game. Be more pass oriented with the ball in TL's hand more.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NFL projections

Lance had 603 yards on 71 attempts.
If we assume 71 attempts as 2 games worth that would be around 35 attempts per game...
He had 603 yards.
603 / 2 = 302
302 x 17 = 5134 pass yards in 2022

35 would be a lot of attempts but not unusual Bills averaged 38 per game..

Would be nice to give him a lot of throws to ramp up the learning curve / development... in other words...

LET TREY SAUTE

His stats were from 2.5 games against Seattle, AZ, and Texans, plus 1 5-yard td pass against Detroit & 15-yard td run against. GB.

That would be about 240 yards per game/ 4,100 yards in a season, which is on par with Jimmy's per game averages.