Aaron Banks "The Dancing Bear", OG

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Thanks. Yeah from everything I've read pertaining to PFF PP grades he's hovering around 70 for the bulk of this time in the league. just failing to see where this equates to bottom of the league. So just wanted NCs source that showed he's at the button of the league in PP

Because he's not lol. He's not elite, but he most certainly isn't as bad as NC likes to think.

It's like this every year. He's very consistent. Imagine if PFF graded more harshly for putting your QB on I.R. twice. Imagine.

Why'd the 49ers release Mike Person? The $2.5m salary-cap break is nice, but it begins and ends with a need for better pass protection.

Person ranked No. 51 of 61 qualifying guards in PFF's pass-blocking efficiency. I wrote about this last month here: https://t.co/behnIHcqlc pic.twitter.com/wEXhz8gWbM

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) March 19, 2020

What does this have to do with you saying Tomlinson is constantly at bottom of PFF in PBLK? That's simply not true.

You don't think being rated 41 out of 63 qualifying G's in PBE isn't at the bottom?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:
All good on the level you chose to look at. His PBE has been like that every year up to 2019. I didn't check last year but I'm assuming it was par for the course. David Lombardi and Jeff Deeney are good ones to ask for that if you need it. They're advanced because they tease out the fluff.

"The importance of pass-blocking efficiency in today's NFL | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF" https://www.pff.com/news/pro-the-importance-of-pass-blocking-efficiency-in-todays-nfl

Oscar/David were referencing the high grades by Banks and Moore using this in "true pass blocking situations."

Pressures tell a big part of the story and PFF's pass-blocking efficiency measurement (available in PFF Elite) takes it a bit further, measuring pressures allowed on a per-snap basis with a weighting toward sacks allowed.

Ok so basically moving on from PFF PP grade to PBE because P grade is too high ha. It's pretty straight forward ask. All I want are the rankings you are referencing showing him bottom of the league year in year out, because I have not come across that or even heard that.
on a side note this must mean you are a big fan of adjusted sack rate I'm guessing

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Ok so basically moving on from PFF PP grade to PBE because P grade is too high ha. It's pretty straight forward ask. All I want are the rankings you are referencing showing him bottom of the league year in year out, because I have not come across that or even heard that.
on a side note this must mean you are a big fan of adjusted sack rate I'm guessing

Originally posted by NCommand:
PBE is a PFF grade. LOL

I literally just shoved you an example.

Dude is nearly dead last every single year in PP at the G position. Per PFF of course

Originally posted by NYniner85:
you have this article from over a yr ago stuffed away somewhere don't you?

Again you said PFF had him ranked constantly at the bottom of their rankings....but that's simply not true. We've talked about PBE in here a ton and how they can say joe blow sucks AND the Chiefs could have a high PBE in the Super Bowl lol? huh?

Again Tomlinson is NOT as bad as you constantly make him out to be....he just isn't.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Nah you said he constantly was at the bottom of PFF PBLK grade, which isn't true at all.

Dude is nearly dead last every single year in PP at the G position. Per PFF of course

You showed an article talking about PBE in the 2019 season. Like I said he had higher PBLK grade then 3 of the highest paid OG in the league this past season and that was with s**t at QB.

He's a solid LG and would start on 70% of NFL rosters.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Hoov!!?!?!

WTH? Where have you been bud?

Hey I thought the band was all back together now that we drafted OL? NY got his mobile QB of the future. The OL looks young, deep and also has a bright future.

PFF, PP, PBE, TPS reports... meh it's all just stats.

Good to see you posting bud.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Hoov!!?!?!

WTH? Where have you been bud?

Hey I thought the band was all back together now that we drafted OL? NY got his mobile QB of the future. The OL looks young, deep and also has a bright future.

PFF, PP, PBE, TPS reports... meh it's all just stats.

Good to see you posting bud.

Ha. Been laying, especially low during the s**t storm that was the pre draft insanity lol. I'm very pleased with how they have addressed OL this offseason . Was hoping for a developmental C, but overall very pleased 😀

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Ok so basically moving on from PFF PP grade to PBE because P grade is too high ha. It's pretty straight forward ask. All I want are the rankings you are referencing showing him bottom of the league year in year out, because I have not come across that or even heard that.
on a side note this must mean you are a big fan of adjusted sack rate I'm guessing

PBE is a PFF grade. LOL

I literally just shoved you an example.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Blah blah blah.

He just stinks at PP (bottom tier) but he's a really good run blocker. You know, like Mike McGlinchey.

You just got done watching him put our QB on I.R. twice.

Maybe that's why you're still trying to defend him.

Originally posted by NCommand:
1. I don't blame you!
2. Me too!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Blah blah blah.

He just stinks at PP (bottom tier) but he's a really good run blocker. You know, like Mike McGlinchey.

You just got done watching him put our QB on I.R. twice.

Maybe that's why you're still trying to defend him.

blah blah blah right back at you lol

He's NOT bottom tier in PP per PFF and that's actually fact.

Originally posted by NCommand:
<go deeper>

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
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if only we could have had Teller, Peat, Saffold, or mason last yr....oh wait they had worse PBLK grades then Tomlinson

Originally posted by NinerGM:
So great! Band's back together then? Awesome. First gig is where? I vote Empty Bottle (Chicago).