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Sep 19, 2024 at 10:39 AM
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Sep 19, 2024 at 10:41 AM ]
Sep 19, 2024 at 10:45 AM
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f**kin Sorensen.
Sep 19, 2024 at 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Kolohe:
f**kin Sorensen.
Hopefully they learn from this because all teams will put decoys on the outside
Sep 19, 2024 at 10:51 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
Sep 19, 2024 at 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.
Sep 19, 2024 at 10:57 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

I hope looking back Sorenson makes some changes. Bosa dropping into coverage and leaving your Special Teamer safety on the best WR in the NFL are not ways to have future success.
Sep 19, 2024 at 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.

Yeah win some lose some. I just can't stand seeing a backup S lined up opposite a guy like JJ. Got two damn good CBs.

seeing Bosa out in coverage is another eye roll
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Sep 19, 2024 at 11:03 AM ]
Sep 19, 2024 at 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

I hope looking back Sorenson makes some changes. Bosa dropping into coverage and leaving your Special Teamer safety on the best WR in the NFL are not ways to have future success.


Sep 19, 2024 at 11:05 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

I hope looking back Sorenson makes some changes. Bosa dropping into coverage and leaving your Special Teamer safety on the best WR in the NFL are not ways to have future success.


Well if Bosa dropped back and more to the right, that's a pick 6 lol
Sep 19, 2024 at 11:07 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

I hope looking back Sorenson makes some changes. Bosa dropping into coverage and leaving your Special Teamer safety on the best WR in the NFL are not ways to have future success.



Has doing a zone blitz with Bosa ever worked since he's been here? I understand the thought process of "they won't ever expect us to drop quadzilla into coverage" but one has to think who's better in coverage Warner or Bosa and of those 2 who's better at rushing the passer.
Sep 30, 2024 at 6:50 AM
Need this guy back yesterday
Sep 30, 2024 at 7:04 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

I hope looking back Sorenson makes some changes. Bosa dropping into coverage and leaving your Special Teamer safety on the best WR in the NFL are not ways to have future success.



Has doing a zone blitz with Bosa ever worked since he's been here? I understand the thought process of "they won't ever expect us to drop quadzilla into coverage" but one has to think who's better in coverage Warner or Bosa and of those 2 who's better at rushing the passer.

There should be general rules for defense. Let rushers rush, let guys that cover, cover. Don't put your guys in bad positions where they are not likely to be successful.
Sep 30, 2024 at 8:09 AM
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
The difference is Huff wouldn't have been out of position like Brown on that play. Safety is much MUCH less about speed than it is about instinct and simply being where you are supposed to be in coverage. There's a reason QBs try to manipulate safety's out of position with where they are looking; safety don't take the bait, QB doesn't throw there or risk getting picked

Brown was playing single-high out there on that play. That's not huff's strong suit either. Also when Huff comes back he's not replacing Brown. He's replacing Odum.

the real problem with that play was Odum was lined up 1-1 with JJ. Dude got smoked on the go route. In no way should he have been lined up across from him.


look at this s**t, why is Lenoir over there? There's two TEs blocking. Odum and a Lber should have been there. Put your best two CBs on their WRs.

I'm assuming Sorenson was expecting the ball to be forced out quickly also probably why Brown got beat deep as with that many blitzers normally leads to quick passes. We died by the blitz vs the Vikings again this year.
It was a bad read, it's rare to get beat by big plays. Hopefully this isn't the norm.

I hope looking back Sorenson makes some changes. Bosa dropping into coverage and leaving your Special Teamer safety on the best WR in the NFL are not ways to have future success.



Has doing a zone blitz with Bosa ever worked since he's been here? I understand the thought process of "they won't ever expect us to drop quadzilla into coverage" but one has to think who's better in coverage Warner or Bosa and of those 2 who's better at rushing the passer.

There should be general rules for defense. Let rushers rush, let guys that cover, cover. Don't put your guys in bad positions where they are not likely to be successful.

Unless your Dick Lebeau I'd just leave zone blitzes out of my playbook. But man Lebeau was a menace with that scheme
Sep 30, 2024 at 9:57 AM
When you are coming off a major injury other stuff can become injured. Because you are not fully in playing shape. You favor one joint over another. Putting too much pressure down the kinetic chain. Just things are out of sync. Leading to joint injuries like an ankle. Hopefully he rounds into form.
Oct 7, 2024 at 6:54 PM
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you are coming off a major injury other stuff can become injured. Because you are not fully in playing shape. You favor one joint over another. Putting too much pressure down the kinetic chain. Just things are out of sync. Leading to joint injuries like an ankle. Hopefully he rounds into form.

He seems to be playing cautious to me. Avoiding tackles, diving at ankles. I wonder if the knee injury has him thinking about injuries so much and wanting to get to free agency healthy without another season ending injury. Making business decisions.
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