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Originally posted by 60sFan:
Originally posted by tankle104:
There is no limit on how many players a team can place on IR, but there is a limit as to how many can be designated to return. A team can bring a maximum of eight players off IR throughout the season.

Thanks, that's what I meant to ask.

Yes sir! happy to help. It becomes interesting because if a handful of guys get injured, you have to be very methodical on which guys you want to bring back. I think it was 2021 when we had like 4 guys able to return but only 2 or 3 more times we could return, which sucked.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Here's a list of guys on the bubble who have enough seasons to be cut and brought back without going thru waivers AND don't have guaranteed money that we'd have to worry about:

DE BRYANT
DL MCGILL
DL HYDER
OL PRYOR
QB ALLEN
WR SNEAD

Options for season ending IR:
TE LATU
DE BEAL
CB PARKER
K MOODY (though I'm doubtful)

Likely injury settlements IMO:
WR CONLEY
K GONZALEZ

Other NOTES:
DE Bosa would not count toward the 53 while he's on the reserve/did not report list, so one extra spot, temporarily.

With this all said, my initial 53 would have to look like this:
QB: Purdy, Darnold
RB/FB: CMC, Mitchell, Mason, TDP | Juice
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Bell, Gray, McCloud
TE: Kittle, Woerner, Latu, Dwelley
OL: Brendel, Feliciano, Banks, Burford, Manning | Trent, McKivitz, Moore

DL: Jackson, Ferrell, Hyder | Armstead, Hargrave, Kinlaw, Givens, Davis
LB: Warner, Greenlaw, DFF, Burks, Graham, Winters
CB: Ward, Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, Oliver, Womack, Jamison
S: Gipson, Hufanga, Brown, & Odum

ST: Moody, [kicker acquired via trade], Wishnowsky, Pepper

And then my final week one 53 would be:
IR w/ Possibility of Return: K Moody, TE Latu, LB Burks, WR Gray
IR season ending: DE Beal, CB Parker
PUP: CB Luter


(24) OFFENSE
QB: Purdy, Darnold
RB/FB: CMC, Mitchell, Mason, TDP | Juice
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Bell, McCloud
TE: Kittle, Woerner, Dwelley
OL: Brendel, Feliciano, Banks, Burford, Manning | Trent, McKivitz, Moore, Pryor

(26) DEFENSE
DL: Bosa, Jackson, Ferrell, Hyder, Bryant | Armstead, Hargrave, Kinlaw, Givens, Davis, McGill
LB: Warner, Greenlaw, DFF, Graham, Winters
CB: Ward, Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, Oliver, Womack, Jamison
S: Gipson, Hufanga, Brown, & Odum

(3) ST: [kicker acquired via trade], Wishnowsky, Pepper

Actually Bryant has $550K GTD, McGill $400K, Allen $200K, & Snead $250K

Oh well I guess we're gonna be eating salary from some guys no matter what we do....
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 60sFan:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Here's a list of guys on the bubble who have enough seasons to be cut and brought back without going thru waivers AND don't have guaranteed money that we'd have to worry about:

DE BRYANT
DL MCGILL
DL HYDER
OL PRYOR
QB ALLEN
WR SNEAD

Options for season ending IR:
TE LATU
DE BEAL
CB PARKER
K MOODY (though I'm doubtful)

Likely injury settlements IMO:
WR CONLEY
K GONZALEZ

Other NOTES:
DE Bosa would not count toward the 53 while he's on the reserve/did not report list, so one extra spot, temporarily.

With this all said, my initial 53 would have to look like this:
QB: Purdy, Darnold
RB/FB: CMC, Mitchell, Mason, TDP | Juice
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Bell, Gray, McCloud
TE: Kittle, Woerner, Latu, Dwelley
OL: Brendel, Feliciano, Banks, Burford, Manning | Trent, McKivitz, Moore

DL: Jackson, Ferrell, Hyder | Armstead, Hargrave, Kinlaw, Givens, Davis
LB: Warner, Greenlaw, DFF, Burks, Graham, Winters
CB: Ward, Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, Oliver, Womack, Jamison
S: Gipson, Hufanga, Brown, & Odum

ST: Moody, [kicker acquired via trade], Wishnowsky, Pepper

And then my final week one 53 would be:
IR w/ Possibility of Return: K Moody, TE Latu, LB Burks, WR Gray
IR season ending: DE Beal, CB Parker
PUP: CB Luter


(24) OFFENSE
QB: Purdy, Darnold
RB/FB: CMC, Mitchell, Mason, TDP | Juice
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Bell, McCloud
TE: Kittle, Woerner, Dwelley
OL: Brendel, Feliciano, Banks, Burford, Manning | Trent, McKivitz, Moore, Pryor

(26) DEFENSE
DL: Bosa, Jackson, Ferrell, Hyder, Bryant | Armstead, Hargrave, Kinlaw, Givens, Davis, McGill
LB: Warner, Greenlaw, DFF, Graham, Winters
CB: Ward, Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, Oliver, Womack, Jamison
S: Gipson, Hufanga, Brown, & Odum

(3) ST: [kicker acquired via trade], Wishnowsky, Pepper

OTC, Well thought out. Wouldn't be surprised if this how it plays out.

Only thing i'd say different is I think Grey or/and McCloud will be placed on IR (but make the 53) and then Willie Snead will make it. maybe Conley too.

With McCloud hopeful for week one or two and the limited number of return designations, my thought is that he doesn't get put on injured reserve.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 60sFan:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Here's a list of guys on the bubble who have enough seasons to be cut and brought back without going thru waivers AND don't have guaranteed money that we'd have to worry about:

DE BRYANT
DL MCGILL
DL HYDER
OL PRYOR
QB ALLEN
WR SNEAD

Options for season ending IR:
TE LATU
DE BEAL
CB PARKER
K MOODY (though I'm doubtful)

Likely injury settlements IMO:
WR CONLEY
K GONZALEZ

Other NOTES:
DE Bosa would not count toward the 53 while he's on the reserve/did not report list, so one extra spot, temporarily.

With this all said, my initial 53 would have to look like this:
QB: Purdy, Darnold
RB/FB: CMC, Mitchell, Mason, TDP | Juice
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Bell, Gray, McCloud
TE: Kittle, Woerner, Latu, Dwelley
OL: Brendel, Feliciano, Banks, Burford, Manning | Trent, McKivitz, Moore

DL: Jackson, Ferrell, Hyder | Armstead, Hargrave, Kinlaw, Givens, Davis
LB: Warner, Greenlaw, DFF, Burks, Graham, Winters
CB: Ward, Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, Oliver, Womack, Jamison
S: Gipson, Hufanga, Brown, & Odum

ST: Moody, [kicker acquired via trade], Wishnowsky, Pepper

And then my final week one 53 would be:
IR w/ Possibility of Return: K Moody, TE Latu, LB Burks, WR Gray
IR season ending: DE Beal, CB Parker
PUP: CB Luter


(24) OFFENSE
QB: Purdy, Darnold
RB/FB: CMC, Mitchell, Mason, TDP | Juice
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Bell, McCloud
TE: Kittle, Woerner, Dwelley
OL: Brendel, Feliciano, Banks, Burford, Manning | Trent, McKivitz, Moore, Pryor

(26) DEFENSE
DL: Bosa, Jackson, Ferrell, Hyder, Bryant | Armstead, Hargrave, Kinlaw, Givens, Davis, McGill
LB: Warner, Greenlaw, DFF, Graham, Winters
CB: Ward, Lenoir, Ambry Thomas, Oliver, Womack, Jamison
S: Gipson, Hufanga, Brown, & Odum

(3) ST: [kicker acquired via trade], Wishnowsky, Pepper

OTC, Well thought out. Wouldn't be surprised if this how it plays out.

Only thing i'd say different is I think Grey or/and McCloud will be placed on IR (but make the 53) and then Willie Snead will make it. maybe Conley too.

With McCloud hopeful for week one or two and the limited number of return designations, my thought is that he doesn't get put on injured reserve.

yeah, good point. I'd put danny gray on there though, Idk if I'd even keep him. Id rather have willie snead.
QB (3)
Brock Purdy
Sam Darnold
Brandon Allen

RB (4)
Christian McCaffrey
Elijah Mitchell
Jordan Mason
TDP

FB (1)
Kyle Juszczyk

WR (6)
Deebo Samuel
Brandon Aiyuk
Jauan Jennings
Danny Gray (will go to short term IR)
Ronnie Bell
Ray Ray McCloud (will go to short term IR)

TE (3)
George Kittle
Ross Dwelley
Charlie Woerner
Cam Latu (will go to short term IR)

OL (9)
Trent Williams
Aaron Banks
Jake Brendel
Spencer Burford
Colton McKivitz
Jon Feliciano
Jaylon Moore
Ilm Manning
Nick Zakelj

DL (8)
Arik Armstead
Javon Hargrave
Drake Jackson
Javon Kinlaw
Clelin Ferrell
Kevin Givens
Kalia Davis
TY McGill

LB (6)
Fred Warner
Dre Greenlaw
Dee Winters
Jalen Graham
DFF
Oren Burks

CB (6)
Charvarius Ward
Deommodore Lenoir
Samuel Womack
Ambry Thomas
Isaiah Oliver
D'Shawn Jamison

Safety (4)
Talanoa Hufanga
Tashaun Gipson
Ji'Ayir Brown
George Odum

Specialists (3)
Jake Moody
Mitch Wishnowsky
Taybor Pepper

Reserve/Did Not Report
Nick Bosa (signed sometime after Tuesday. Jumping on AB's brilliant take)

PUP
Darrell Luter Jr

Cut & Re-Signed Next Day (Wink/Wink)
Chris Connelly (signed the next day and placed on short term IR)
Marlon Davidson
Matt Pryor
Austin Bryant (signed next day to 53)
Kerry Hyder (signed next day to 53)

Key Cuts Who Make It Through Waivers 🤞
Robert Beal
Qwuantrezz Knight
AJ Parker
Tayler Hawkins
Marcelino-McCrary Ball
Brayden Willis

Short Term IR Following Day
Danny Gray
Ray Ray McCloud
Cam Latu
Originally posted by 60sFan:
QB (3)
Brock Purdy
Sam Darnold
Brandon Allen

RB (4)
Christian McCaffrey
Elijah Mitchell
Jordan Mason
TDP

FB (1)
Kyle Juszczyk

WR (6)
Deebo Samuel
Brandon Aiyuk
Jauan Jennings
Danny Gray (will go to short term IR)
Ronnie Bell
Ray Ray McCloud (will go to short term IR)

TE (3)
George Kittle
Ross Dwelley
Charlie Woerner
Cam Latu (will go to short term IR)

OL (9)
Trent Williams
Aaron Banks
Jake Brendel
Spencer Burford
Colton McKivitz
Jon Feliciano
Jaylon Moore
Ilm Manning
Nick Zakelj

DL (8)
Arik Armstead
Javon Hargrave
Drake Jackson
Javon Kinlaw
Clelin Ferrell
Kevin Givens
Kalia Davis
TY McGill

LB (6)
Fred Warner
Dre Greenlaw
Dee Winters
Jalen Graham
DFF
Oren Burks

CB (6)
Charvarius Ward
Deommodore Lenoir
Samuel Womack
Ambry Thomas
Isaiah Oliver
D'Shawn Jamison

Safety (4)
Talanoa Hufanga
Tashaun Gipson
Ji'Ayir Brown
George Odum

Specialists (3)
Jake Moody
Mitch Wishnowsky
Taybor Pepper

Reserve/Did Not Report
Nick Bosa (signed sometime after Tuesday. Jumping on AB's brilliant take)

PUP
Darrell Luter Jr

Cut & Re-Signed Next Day (Wink/Wink)
Chris Connelly (signed the next day and placed on short term IR)
Marlon Davidson
Matt Pryor
Austin Bryant (signed next day to 53)
Kerry Hyder (signed next day to 53)

Key Cuts Who Make It Through Waivers 🤞
Robert Beal
Qwuantrezz Knight
AJ Parker
Tayler Hawkins
Marcelino-McCrary Ball
Brayden Willis

Short Term IR Following Day
Danny Gray
Ray Ray McCloud
Cam Latu

I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

what happened to Beal? I haven't heard his name in a long time. I was hoping he would be able to be used as a pass rusher on third downs.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I think we can get Willis to the PS. Only had two catches this preseason. I think there's a strong chance he clears waivers. Latu looked rough to start but rebounded and played much better than Willis in the next two games.

Plus, Dwelley with that guaranteed money probably stays unless traded. Doubtful now with Latu hurt.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Aug 27, 2023 at 5:04 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I think we can get Willis to the PS. Only had two catches this preseason. I think there's a strong chance he clears waivers. Latu looked rough to start but rebounded and played much better than Willis in the next two games.

Plus, Dwelley with that guaranteed money probably stays unless traded. Doubtful now with Latu hurt.

How many tightends have we kept in the past? 3 or 4?
One last projection, https://49erscap.com/index.php/2023/08/27/one-last-49ers-2023-53-man-roster-projection-with-practice-squad-injured-list-plus-2023-2024-salary-cap-implications/
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I think we can get Willis to the PS. Only had two catches this preseason. I think there's a strong chance he clears waivers. Latu looked rough to start but rebounded and played much better than Willis in the next two games.

Plus, Dwelley with that guaranteed money probably stays unless traded. Doubtful now with Latu hurt.

How many tightends have we kept in the past? 3 or 4?

I think 4, Kyle likes having 4 TEs for some reason.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I think we can get Willis to the PS. Only had two catches this preseason. I think there's a strong chance he clears waivers. Latu looked rough to start but rebounded and played much better than Willis in the next two games.

Plus, Dwelley with that guaranteed money probably stays unless traded. Doubtful now with Latu hurt.

Even if cut, then signed back, the $700K goes away as dead money, since players can't double dip.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I think we can get Willis to the PS. Only had two catches this preseason. I think there's a strong chance he clears waivers. Latu looked rough to start but rebounded and played much better than Willis in the next two games.

Plus, Dwelley with that guaranteed money probably stays unless traded. Doubtful now with Latu hurt.

How many tightends have we kept in the past? 3 or 4?

I think 4, Kyle likes having 4 TEs for some reason.

I think it'll be some combination of
Kittle, Woerner, Dwelley, Latu/Willis. If Latu's injury isn't that bad, I think he makes it.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I agree, Conley's injury not that serious. But why have him go to the PS where he is vulnerable, when he can be placed on short term IR after being signed? I think Willis makes it to PS.
Originally posted by 60sFan:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I doubt Conley's injury is that serious, he probably goes to the PS.

Also I would cut Dwelley to keep Willis on the 53. I think Beal gets IR'd for the season.

I agree, Conley's injury not that serious. But why have him go to the PS where he is vulnerable, when he can be placed on short term IR after being signed? I think Willis makes it to PS.

cant we designate a handful of guys that can't be taken on the practice squad?
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