***The Forever Official 53-MAN ROSTER/DEPTH CHART/PS Thread***

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I think we're even closer on this version!

PS: I want to keep 10 OL so badly! I always do though. LOL

(#) - 2021 Roster by Position

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB (2): Trey Lance; Nate Sudfeld
RB (4): Elijah Mitchell; Tyrion Davis-Price, Jeff Wilson & Trey Sermon
FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk
TE (3): George Kittle; Charlie Woerner & Ross Dwelley
XWR (6): Brandon Aiyuk; Danny Gray
SWR: Jauan Jennings; Ray-Ray McCloud
ZWR/F: Deebo Samuel
LT (8): Trent Williams; Daniel Brunskill
LG: Aaron Banks
C: Alex Mack; Jake Brendel & Dohnovan West
RG: Spencer Burford; Jaylon Moore
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE/W9 (11): Samson Ebukam; Drake Jackson & Kerry Hyder
2i: Javon Kinlaw; Hassan Ridgeway
3T: Arik Armstead; Kevin Givens (Kalia Davis)
RDE/W9: Nick Bosa; Jordan Willis & Kemoko Turay (Dee Ford)
SAM (4): Azeez Al-Shaair
MIKE: Fred Warner; Oren Burks
WILL: Dre Greenlaw; Jeremiah Gemmel
RCB (6): Charvarius Ward; Ambry Thomas
SCB: Darqueze Dennard; Deommodore Lenoir & Samuel Womack
LCB: Emmanuel Moseley; Tariq Castro-Fields (Jason Verrett)
FS (5): Jimmie Ward; Leon O'Neal
SS: Tarvarius Moore; George Odum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS (3): Taybor Pepper
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

KOR: Ray-Ray McCloud & Elijah Mitchell
PR: Ray-Ray McCloud
GR: George Odum & Tarvarius Moore

I do too, I want 10 OL, & 11 DL lol, but likely won't happen, we're gonna keep either 4 RBs & 6WRs or 4RBs & 5WRs, idk where we'd go thin, TE? if 5 WRs, then we have a spot for an OL, but what about a DL? Another DB(O'Neal), or a LB(Gemmel)

Like i said, "flame away" on 10, or gasp, 11 OLs. At least now we are talking about it…almost surely won't happen, but when we get down to "from which position " do we take away a slot or two, and give it to OL…we now have a discussion.

Prior to this carrying 10 or 11 OLs was just verboten. But what about one less DB, or one less RB, or one less LB, or one (or 2) less WRs? WRs didn't kill us in the meaningful ball games last yr, nor did LBs. And mostly except for NFCC, nor did DLs (injuries). yeah, RBs were injured so Deebo had to be frog marched into RB, which we now know was not a good idea (and i posted as such for exactly the reasons he doesn't want to play RB..injuries. The kid is a WR, and doesn't have the body for a Rb.) but that still leaves us with 3 RBs. We really need 4 or 5 RBs?

What killed us last yrs and yrs before? Oh, well CBs, Ss, and OLs…all with same problem…injuries(or lack of talent). But the most glaring problem injury wise was OLs, and we flat out didn't have enough to make it thru a full season PLUS Playoffs. And that has been a recurring problem since. JL/KS came here. Not protecting your FRQB seems just reckless…at least to me, anyway.

If we do something REALLY foolish and go 8 OLs, then i would suggest our F.O go back and review the last 5 seasons, all of which we shorted the OL. When you burn 3 picks on drafting your FRQB, it just seems somebody would think about protecting him, now that we have him starting.

"Egg on face" will not come close to enough if it results from seeing Trey go down to injury from lack of OL pass pro. Nobody in the F.O nor any fans want to see our FRQB go down to injury from crappy pass pro. Okay, then fine. Why in the world not carry enough OLs to protect him? BTW….our OLs were hurt as much as our DLs…but OLs had only 3 or 4 guys to fill injury holes, while DL had 4 or 5 guys (2 1/2 DLs for each DL position)

Having 5 or 6 WRs when we have au jus PLUS 2 TEs + all 3 RBs that can catch passes? Sure seems smarter to protect your QB so that he can throw a pass to one of 4 WRs. What good is 5 or 6 WRs if your FRQB is getting beaten up from lousy OL Pass pro? Better to keep 10 ( 1 extra OL at each OL slot) and allow Trey time to throw the ball than have 6 WRs and a broken down / injured OL and no healthy QB to throw to those 6 WRs….. Right?

True, true. We just have to see how the Colts ruined Andrew Luck career with putrid pass protection.
In 2019 the team kept 4 RB in Coleman, Breida, Mostert and Wilson. Wilson entered when any of those injury prone guys were hurt.
In 2022 the new rules allow you to keep guys on the PS, elevate them to the team in case of need, and revert to PS. So you can survive with 3 RBs and a PS of kids waiting for their chance. No need to burn a roster spot on a 4th RB. But who knows, they drafted 3 RBs the past 2 years and they really like Jeff Wilson as the 4th.
They don't want Deebo as a RB, but don't want to be starting Jaques Patrick or any random scrub from the street again.

5 WR should be enough if they stay healthy. Assuming Deebo stays it'd be Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Gray and McLeod. McLeod bringing the KR/PR specialist this team has desperately need (fans can hope ST plays improve without Richard Hightower). You can keep a 6th WR on the PS.

I'd keep 10 OL for sure. they've drafted 4 in the past 2 seasons. And they have 2 UDFA Centers with potential.10 DL and 10 OL sounds about right.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
True, true. We just have to see how the Colts ruined Andrew Luck career with putrid pass protection.
In 2019 the team kept 4 RB in Coleman, Breida, Mostert and Wilson. Wilson entered when any of those injury prone guys were hurt.
In 2022 the new rules allow you to keep guys on the PS, elevate them to the team in case of need, and revert to PS. So you can survive with 3 RBs and a PS of kids waiting for their chance. No need to burn a roster spot on a 4th RB. But who knows, they drafted 3 RBs the past 2 years and they really like Jeff Wilson as the 4th.
They don't want Deebo as a RB, but don't want to be starting Jaques Patrick or any random scrub from the street again.

5 WR should be enough if they stay healthy. Assuming Deebo stays it'd be Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Gray and McLeod. McLeod bringing the KR/PR specialist this team has desperately need (fans can hope ST plays improve without Richard Hightower). You can keep a 6th WR on the PS.

I'd keep 10 OL for sure. they've drafted 4 in the past 2 seasons. And they have 2 UDFA Centers with potential.10 DL and 10 OL sounds about right.

Well that's 2 of us. Appreciate your opinion, but you do realize you have just committed heresy. Better see if you can find a flame retardant coat…you may just need it.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
True, true. We just have to see how the Colts ruined Andrew Luck career with putrid pass protection.
In 2019 the team kept 4 RB in Coleman, Breida, Mostert and Wilson. Wilson entered when any of those injury prone guys were hurt.
In 2022 the new rules allow you to keep guys on the PS, elevate them to the team in case of need, and revert to PS. So you can survive with 3 RBs and a PS of kids waiting for their chance. No need to burn a roster spot on a 4th RB. But who knows, they drafted 3 RBs the past 2 years and they really like Jeff Wilson as the 4th.
They don't want Deebo as a RB, but don't want to be starting Jaques Patrick or any random scrub from the street again.

5 WR should be enough if they stay healthy. Assuming Deebo stays it'd be Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Gray and McLeod. McLeod bringing the KR/PR specialist this team has desperately need (fans can hope ST plays improve without Richard Hightower). You can keep a 6th WR on the PS.

I'd keep 10 OL for sure. they've drafted 4 in the past 2 seasons. And they have 2 UDFA Centers with potential.10 DL and 10 OL sounds about right.

Well that's 2 of us. Appreciate your opinion, but you do realize you have just committed heresy. Better see if you can find a flame retardant coat…you may just need it.

If they go 3 backs, Wilson is the odd man out IMO, Sermon & Davis-Price won't clear waivers, plus Wilson is a vested veteran, so he can go on the PS without going thru waivers.

I also want 10 OL(9 minimum), and 10 DL(would love to see 11 even if we keep 4 LBs)

Here's our current roster as I see it, Bold are IMO locks to make the team or start on NFI, PUP, or IR.

Offense:
QB(4): 5 Trey Lance(2024), 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022), 7 Nate Sudfeld(2022), & -- Brock Purdy(2025)
RB(6): 25 Elijah Mitchell(2024), 22 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2022), 28 Trey Sermon(2024), -- Tyrion Davis-Price(2025), 23 JaMycal Hasty(2022), & -- Jordan Mason(2024)
FB(2): 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025), & 40 Josh Hokit(2022)
WR(12): 19 Deebo Samuel(2022), 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023), 15 Jauan Jennings(2022), 3 Ray-Ray McCloud(2023), -- Danny Gray(2025), 17 Malik Turner(2022), 6 Marcus Johnson(2022), 81 Austin Mack(2022), 83 Connor Wedington(2022), -- KeeSean Johnson(2022), -- Tay Martin(2024), & -- Taysir Mack(2024)
TE(6): 85 George Kittle(2025), 89 Charlie Woerner(2023), 82 Ross Dwelley(2022), 84 Tanner Hudson(2022), 88 Jordan Matthews(2022), & -- Garrett Walston(2024)
C(4): 50 Alex Mack(2023), 64 Jake Brendel(2022), -- Dohnovan West(2024), & -- Jason Poe(2024)
OG(6): 65 Aaron Banks(2024), 76 Jaylon Moore(2024), 60 Daniel Brunskill(2022), -- Nick Zakelj(2025), & 66 Keaton Sutherland(2022)
OT(7): 71 Trent Williams(2026), 69 Mike McGlinchey(2022), -- Spencer Burford(2025), 68 Colton McKivitz(2022), 67 Justin Skule(2022), Sam Schlueter(2024), & 77 Alfredo Gutierrez(2022)

Defense:
DE(9): 97 Nick Bosa(2023), 56 Samson Ebukam(2022), 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2022), 53 Kemoko Turay(2022), 94 Charles Omenihu(2022), -- Drake Jackson(2025), 75 Jordan Willis(2022), 55 Dee Ford(2022), & 58 Alex Barrett(2022)
DT(4): 91 Arik Armstead(2024), 90 Kevin Givens(2022), 96 Maurice Hurst Jr.(2022), & -- Kevin Atkins(2024)
NT(4): 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023), 98 Hassan Ridgeway(2022), -- Kalia Davis(2025), & 78 Chris Slayton(2022)
LB(8): 54 Fred Warner(2026), 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022), 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2022), 48 Oren Burks(2023), 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2022), -- Jeremiah Gemmel(2024), -- Segun Olubi(2024), & -- Marcelino McCrary-Ball(2024)
CB(11): 35 Charvarius Ward(2024), 4 Emmanuel Moseley(2022), 20 Ambry Thomas(2024), 38 Deommodore Lenoir(2024), 27 Dontae Johnson(2022), -- Samuel Womack(2025), -- Tariq Castro-Fields(2025), 2 Jason Verrett(2022), 24 Ka'dar Hollman(2022), -- Qwuantrezz Knight(2024), & -- Tayler Hawkins(2024)
S(5): 1 Jimmie Ward(2022), 33 Tarvarius Moore(2022), 29 Talanoa Hufanga(2024), 30 George Odum(2024), & -- Leon O'Neal Jr.(2024)

Special Teams:
PK(1): 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P(1): 18 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS(1): 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here's our current roster as I see it, Bold are IMO locks to make the team or start on NFI, PUP, or IR.

Offense:
QB(4): 5 Trey Lance(2024), 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022), 7 Nate Sudfeld(2022), & -- Brock Purdy(2025)
RB(6): 25 Elijah Mitchell(2024), 22 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2022), 28 Trey Sermon(2024), -- Tyrion Davis-Price(2025), 23 JaMycal Hasty(2022), & -- Jordan Mason(2024)
FB(2): 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025), & 40 Josh Hokit(2022)
WR(12): 19 Deebo Samuel(2022), 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023), 15 Jauan Jennings(2022), 3 Ray-Ray McCloud(2023), -- Danny Gray(2025), 17 Malik Turner(2022), 6 Marcus Johnson(2022), 81 Austin Mack(2022), 83 Connor Wedington(2022), -- KeeSean Johnson(2022), -- Tay Martin(2024), & -- Taysir Mack(2024)
TE(6): 85 George Kittle(2025), 89 Charlie Woerner(2023), 82 Ross Dwelley(2022), 84 Tanner Hudson(2022), 88 Jordan Matthews(2022), & -- Garrett Walston(2024)
C(4): 50 Alex Mack(2023), 64 Jake Brendel(2022), -- Dohnovan West(2024), & -- Jason Poe(2024)
OG(6): 65 Aaron Banks(2024), 76 Jaylon Moore(2024), 60 Daniel Brunskill(2022), -- Nick Zakelj(2025), & 66 Keaton Sutherland(2022)
OT(7): 71 Trent Williams(2026), 69 Mike McGlinchey(2022), -- Spencer Burford(2025), 68 Colton McKivitz(2022), 67 Justin Skule(2022), Sam Schlueter(2024), & 77 Alfredo Gutierrez(2022)

Defense:
DE(9): 97 Nick Bosa(2023), 56 Samson Ebukam(2022), 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2022), 53 Kemoko Turay(2022), 94 Charles Omenihu(2022), -- Drake Jackson(2025), 75 Jordan Willis(2022), 55 Dee Ford(2022), & 58 Alex Barrett(2022)
DT(4): 91 Arik Armstead(2024), 90 Kevin Givens(2022), 96 Maurice Hurst Jr.(2022), & -- Kevin Atkins(2024)
NT(4): 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023), 98 Hassan Ridgeway(2022), -- Kalia Davis(2025), & 78 Chris Slayton(2022)
LB(8): 54 Fred Warner(2026), 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022), 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2022), 48 Oren Burks(2023), 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2022), -- Jeremiah Gemmel(2024), -- Segun Olubi(2024), & -- Marcelino McCrary-Ball(2024)
CB(11): 35 Charvarius Ward(2024), 4 Emmanuel Moseley(2022), 20 Ambry Thomas(2024), 38 Deommodore Lenoir(2024), 27 Dontae Johnson(2022), -- Samuel Womack(2025), -- Tariq Castro-Fields(2025), 2 Jason Verrett(2022), 24 Ka'dar Hollman(2022), -- Qwuantrezz Knight(2024), & -- Tayler Hawkins(2024)
S(5): 1 Jimmie Ward(2022), 33 Tarvarius Moore(2022), 29 Talanoa Hufanga(2024), 30 George Odum(2024), & -- Leon O'Neal Jr.(2024)

Special Teams:
PK(1): 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P(1): 18 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS(1): 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)

Pretty formidable looking list (in bold), AB, but it is the guys in non-bold i am curious about. While this is a league of injuries, and of the top 10-12 teams each yr, the HEALTHIEST team for "some strange reason" seems to always win it all. With a new Covid variant arising roughly every 4-6 months, and the politicos (not physicians) deciding on where, when, and who must wear masks, the Practice Squad numbers (from the initial Covid increase ) should remain in perpetuity. Also same goes for a guy who was on "IR" from Covid and then recovers ….those early changes should remain in place. Right now am not sure how (or if) NFL has changed re: how many players can be carried on PS. But reg squad should go to 50.

This has been a sore point for me long before Covid. Teams need to be able to put more than 10 or 12 guys on PS. With season going from 14 to 16 to 17 games, injuries are mounting , and Covid just accentuates this. Why can't the league allow PS to keep the Covid rules in place for PS, and keep PS numbers increased? As we saw in NFCC game, we were tired, beat up (big Trent on 1 leg), and others with a number of nicks. Plus there remains the Covid thing, altho now we look at it a lot differently than 2 yrs ago.

It is just time for league to carry at least 50 guys on reg squad and as many as 15 players on PS. Vince Lombardi long ago said, "build your lines first". There should be enough players on both OLine and DLine to fill every position with a healthy player. CBs/ Ss get beaten up…same goes for them, but due to average amount of energy expended, DLs should have 2.5 players/ each slot (ie, they should have 10 guys for a DL). OLs 10. WRs 5 or 6, RBs 4-5, QBs 2, TEs 3, LBs 5-6, DBs 8-9, plus STs (incl kicking teams).

Carrying 50 players PLUS PS of say 15, might just make teams with lots of injuries (and yes, that includes 9ers) have a better shot at winning it all, if they just carried more replacement parts that couldn't be scavenged by other teams. Yes there is a limit to # of players a team can keep, but let's increase both reg squad and PS, and not be so worried about which positions on the team (OL for certain) have to be scrimped on. That is just nutty, and carrying more players can only help a situation that has gotten worse, each time we incr # of reg season games…or a new Covid variant appears.

Didn't mean to detract from your latest roster picks, AB, as it looks really good, with a bunch of ??? For guys we just acquired…that will work itself out. Meantime reg squad looks really good, with new talent added where we really needed it. Of our 9 picks , it is hard to imagine we keep more than 4 or 5, unless we make cuts from what we had prior to draft, FA , & UDFA. One has to be encouraged by our 4 new OLs, new CBs, Ss, WRs, RBs, and DLs.

Sure everybody makes a change here, a change there…but come opener in Sept, our roster is going to look awfully close to what you posted above.

^^^It may be just rose colored glasses, but dang that D looks like a winner.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^It may be just rose colored glasses, but dang that D looks like a winner.

I agree but I still have some concern at the safety position.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^It may be just rose colored glasses, but dang that D looks like a winner.

I agree but I still have some concern at the safety position.

We won't know for awhile, but that is what all that new blood is for. We just have to let it play out, but no lie, our DBs prior to 2021 season….were not encouraging. Now, at least, we have what seems guys who will be good bets. Still, "rose colored glasses", but sure like direction we are heading.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Here's our current roster as I see it, Bold are IMO locks to make the team or start on NFI, PUP, or IR.

Offense:
QB(4): 5 Trey Lance(2024), 10 Jimmy Garoppolo(2022), 7 Nate Sudfeld(2022), & -- Brock Purdy(2025)
RB(6): 25 Elijah Mitchell(2024), 22 Jeff Wilson Jr.(2022), 28 Trey Sermon(2024), -- Tyrion Davis-Price(2025), 23 JaMycal Hasty(2022), & -- Jordan Mason(2024)
FB(2): 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2025), & 40 Josh Hokit(2022)
WR(12): 19 Deebo Samuel(2022), 11 Brandon Aiyuk(2023), 15 Jauan Jennings(2022), 3 Ray-Ray McCloud(2023), -- Danny Gray(2025), 17 Malik Turner(2022), 6 Marcus Johnson(2022), 81 Austin Mack(2022), 83 Connor Wedington(2022), -- KeeSean Johnson(2022), -- Tay Martin(2024), & -- Taysir Mack(2024)
TE(6): 85 George Kittle(2025), 89 Charlie Woerner(2023), 82 Ross Dwelley(2022), 84 Tanner Hudson(2022), 88 Jordan Matthews(2022), & -- Garrett Walston(2024)
C(4): 50 Alex Mack(2023), 64 Jake Brendel(2022), -- Dohnovan West(2024), & -- Jason Poe(2024)
OG(6): 65 Aaron Banks(2024), 76 Jaylon Moore(2024), 60 Daniel Brunskill(2022), -- Nick Zakelj(2025), & 66 Keaton Sutherland(2022)
OT(7): 71 Trent Williams(2026), 69 Mike McGlinchey(2022), -- Spencer Burford(2025), 68 Colton McKivitz(2022), 67 Justin Skule(2022), Sam Schlueter(2024), & 77 Alfredo Gutierrez(2022)

Defense:
DE(9): 97 Nick Bosa(2023), 56 Samson Ebukam(2022), 92 Kerry Hyder Jr.(2022), 53 Kemoko Turay(2022), 94 Charles Omenihu(2022), -- Drake Jackson(2025), 75 Jordan Willis(2022), 55 Dee Ford(2022), & 58 Alex Barrett(2022)
DT(4): 91 Arik Armstead(2024), 90 Kevin Givens(2022), 96 Maurice Hurst Jr.(2022), & -- Kevin Atkins(2024)
NT(4): 99 Javon Kinlaw(2023), 98 Hassan Ridgeway(2022), -- Kalia Davis(2025), & 78 Chris Slayton(2022)
LB(8): 54 Fred Warner(2026), 57 Dre Greenlaw(2022), 51 Azeez Al-Shaair(2022), 48 Oren Burks(2023), 45 Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles(2022), -- Jeremiah Gemmel(2024), -- Segun Olubi(2024), & -- Marcelino McCrary-Ball(2024)
CB(11): 35 Charvarius Ward(2024), 4 Emmanuel Moseley(2022), 20 Ambry Thomas(2024), 38 Deommodore Lenoir(2024), 27 Dontae Johnson(2022), -- Samuel Womack(2025), -- Tariq Castro-Fields(2025), 2 Jason Verrett(2022), 24 Ka'dar Hollman(2022), -- Qwuantrezz Knight(2024), & -- Tayler Hawkins(2024)
S(5): 1 Jimmie Ward(2022), 33 Tarvarius Moore(2022), 29 Talanoa Hufanga(2024), 30 George Odum(2024), & -- Leon O'Neal Jr.(2024)

Special Teams:
PK(1): 9 Robbie Gould(2022)
P(1): 18 Mitch Wishnowsky(2022)
LS(1): 46 Taybor Pepper(2022)

Pretty formidable looking list (in bold), AB, but it is the guys in non-bold i am curious about. While this is a league of injuries, and of the top 10-12 teams each yr, the HEALTHIEST team for "some strange reason" seems to always win it all. With a new Covid variant arising roughly every 4-6 months, and the politicos (not physicians) deciding on where, when, and who must wear masks, the Practice Squad numbers (from the initial Covid increase ) should remain in perpetuity. Also same goes for a guy who was on "IR" from Covid and then recovers ….those early changes should remain in place. Right now am not sure how (or if) NFL has changed re: how many players can be carried on PS. But reg squad should go to 50.

This has been a sore point for me long before Covid. Teams need to be able to put more than 10 or 12 guys on PS. With season going from 14 to 16 to 17 games, injuries are mounting , and Covid just accentuates this. Why can't the league allow PS to keep the Covid rules in place for PS, and keep PS numbers increased? As we saw in NFCC game, we were tired, beat up (big Trent on 1 leg), and others with a number of nicks. Plus there remains the Covid thing, altho now we look at it a lot differently than 2 yrs ago.

It is just time for league to carry at least 50 guys on reg squad and as many as 15 players on PS. Vince Lombardi long ago said, "build your lines first". There should be enough players on both OLine and DLine to fill every position with a healthy player. CBs/ Ss get beaten up…same goes for them, but due to average amount of energy expended, DLs should have 2.5 players/ each slot (ie, they should have 10 guys for a DL). OLs 10. WRs 5 or 6, RBs 4-5, QBs 2, TEs 3, LBs 5-6, DBs 8-9, plus STs (incl kicking teams).

Carrying 50 players PLUS PS of say 15, might just make teams with lots of injuries (and yes, that includes 9ers) have a better shot at winning it all, if they just carried more replacement parts that couldn't be scavenged by other teams. Yes there is a limit to # of players a team can keep, but let's increase both reg squad and PS, and not be so worried about which positions on the team (OL for certain) have to be scrimped on. That is just nutty, and carrying more players can only help a situation that has gotten worse, each time we incr # of reg season games…or a new Covid variant appears.

Didn't mean to detract from your latest roster picks, AB, as it looks really good, with a bunch of ??? For guys we just acquired…that will work itself out. Meantime reg squad looks really good, with new talent added where we really needed it. Of our 9 picks , it is hard to imagine we keep more than 4 or 5, unless we make cuts from what we had prior to draft, FA , & UDFA. One has to be encouraged by our 4 new OLs, new CBs, Ss, WRs, RBs, and DLs.

Sure everybody makes a change here, a change there…but come opener in Sept, our roster is going to look awfully close to what you posted above.

No worries bro, I think the NFL will keep the COVID rules, and PS should be 16, 53-,an roster stays, stupid, should be like 58, with 53 active each week.

I think of the draft picks, Purdy is on the PS, Davis starts on NFI, due to his ACL injury last October, and Zakelj would be the one I think would be on the PS with Purdy, so I have Jackson, TDP, Gray, Burford, Womack, & TCF making it for sure, unless one of the CBs looks bad, they might be able to get one on the PS, but I'm worried they would lose Womack, Lenoir, or Castro-Fields via waivers.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^It may be just rose colored glasses, but dang that D looks like a winner.

I agree but I still have some concern at the safety position.

We won't know for awhile, but that is what all that new blood is for. We just have to let it play out, but no lie, our DBs prior to 2021 season….were not encouraging. Now, at least, we have what seems guys who will be good bets. Still, "rose colored glasses", but sure like direction we are heading.

Yeah like Oilcan said, Safety is a concern of mine too, hope Huf, Moore, & Odum can be good, whoever of them starts, and O'Neal becomes a very good player, I like him, & West as UDFAs to make the team.

And I also like the way the Secondary is heading, lot of young guys, with a few vets, looks like a nice group, let's see who pans out.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No worries bro, I think the NFL will keep the COVID rules, and PS should be 16, 53-,an roster stays, stupid, should be like 58, with 53 active each week.

I think of the draft picks, Purdy is on the PS, Davis starts on NFI, due to his ACL injury last October, and Zakelj would be the one I think would be on the PS with Purdy, so I have Jackson, TDP, Gray, Burford, Womack, & TCF making it for sure, unless one of the CBs looks bad, they might be able to get one on the PS, but I'm worried they would lose Womack, Lenoir, or Castro-Fields via waivers.

AB, nice to be in your corner on what we carry on reg squad , and agree 53 is a joke Fifty eight(58) makes a ton more sense, and then activate 53 for game day. That helps tons for protecting established players right there, and allows for OL to legitimately carry 10 guys. There don't have to be much in the line of cuts from other positions ( to get to carrying 10 OLs) with a 58 man regular squad PLUS 15 PS players.

I mean only an idiot or penny pincher tries to squeak by with 53 when 58 would really help self-insure a lot of teams, and us in particular. Expanding the PS to 15, maybe 16 would make a huge difference and allow for wear and tear, injuries, Covid, and so on. Covid got the owners off the dime to make rosters bigger, but they still have a way to go. Hopefully the owners will do the right thing, but…just because they are owners doesn't mean they are all geniuses.

We carry 11 DLs, 10 OLs, 9 DBs, 4 RBs, maybe 5 WRs, I'm a happy camper. To have to choose not to carry 10 OLs because of a 53 man limit…unforgivable.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No worries bro, I think the NFL will keep the COVID rules, and PS should be 16, 53-,an roster stays, stupid, should be like 58, with 53 active each week.

I think of the draft picks, Purdy is on the PS, Davis starts on NFI, due to his ACL injury last October, and Zakelj would be the one I think would be on the PS with Purdy, so I have Jackson, TDP, Gray, Burford, Womack, & TCF making it for sure, unless one of the CBs looks bad, they might be able to get one on the PS, but I'm worried they would lose Womack, Lenoir, or Castro-Fields via waivers.

AB, nice to be in your corner on what we carry on reg squad , and agree 53 is a joke Fifty eight(58) makes a ton more sense, and then activate 53 for game day. That helps tons for protecting established players right there, and allows for OL to legitimately carry 10 guys. There don't have to be much in the line of cuts from other positions ( to get to carrying 10 OLs) with a 58 man regular squad PLUS 15 PS players.

I mean only an idiot or penny pincher tries to squeak by with 53 when 58 would really help self-insure a lot of teams, and us in particular. Expanding the PS to 15, maybe 16 would make a huge difference and allow for wear and tear, injuries, Covid, and so on. Covid got the owners off the dime to make rosters bigger, but they still have a way to go. Hopefully the owners will do the right thing, but…just because they are owners doesn't mean they are all geniuses.

We carry 11 DLs, 10 OLs, 9 DBs, 4 RBs, maybe 5 WRs, I'm a happy camper. To have to choose not to carry 10 OLs because of a 53 man limit…unforgivable.

If they did this, they would not only be able to keep players that they may end up losing, and it creates more jobs around the league, which is a great thing, but the cap would need to be upped, that would need to be negotiated between the NFL & NFLPA.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No worries bro, I think the NFL will keep the COVID rules, and PS should be 16, 53-,an roster stays, stupid, should be like 58, with 53 active each week.

I think of the draft picks, Purdy is on the PS, Davis starts on NFI, due to his ACL injury last October, and Zakelj would be the one I think would be on the PS with Purdy, so I have Jackson, TDP, Gray, Burford, Womack, & TCF making it for sure, unless one of the CBs looks bad, they might be able to get one on the PS, but I'm worried they would lose Womack, Lenoir, or Castro-Fields via waivers.

AB, nice to be in your corner on what we carry on reg squad , and agree 53 is a joke Fifty eight(58) makes a ton more sense, and then activate 53 for game day. That helps tons for protecting established players right there, and allows for OL to legitimately carry 10 guys. There don't have to be much in the line of cuts from other positions ( to get to carrying 10 OLs) with a 58 man regular squad PLUS 15 PS players.

I mean only an idiot or penny pincher tries to squeak by with 53 when 58 would really help self-insure a lot of teams, and us in particular. Expanding the PS to 15, maybe 16 would make a huge difference and allow for wear and tear, injuries, Covid, and so on. Covid got the owners off the dime to make rosters bigger, but they still have a way to go. Hopefully the owners will do the right thing, but…just because they are owners doesn't mean they are all geniuses.

We carry 11 DLs, 10 OLs, 9 DBs, 4 RBs, maybe 5 WRs, I'm a happy camper. To have to choose not to carry 10 OLs because of a 53 man limit…unforgivable.

If they did this, they would not only be able to keep players that they may end up losing, and it creates more jobs around the league, which is a great thing, but the cap would need to be upped, that would need to be negotiated between the NFL & NFLPA.

Agreed, cap incr goes without saying. But the benefits would be massive and the parity that league wants so badly would only be raised once again. Don't want to Pooh Pooh idea of more owners money being spent, but it just makes sense AND league gets a huge incr in parity (due to teams having adequate backups vs now, a single injury , (eg, Dee Ford) just screws up team success.

By rights we can literally put 4 EDGEs on field at same time, (2 playing as OLBs). So adding to rosters total numbers , also makes for lots of additional improvisation, as well as more parity (thru health security in numbers)

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Agreed, cap incr goes without saying. But the benefits would be massive and the parity that league wants so badly would only be raised once again. Don't want to Pooh Pooh idea of more owners money being spent, but it just makes sense AND league gets a huge incr in parity (due to teams having adequate backups vs now, a single injury , (eg, Dee Ford) just screws up team success.

By rights we can literally put 4 EDGEs on field at same time, (2 playing as OLBs). So adding to rosters total numbers , also makes for lots of additional improvisation, as well as more parity (thru health security in numbers)

Hopefully the owners come to their senses, cause they need to increase roster size ASAP, sooner than later, I'm all for inactives and all, seeing as a lot of players have those in their contract for per game roster bonuses, but, they need to up rosters, both total & active on gameday, keep 16 man PS too, IR rules too, only miss 3 games and you can come back, and no limit on how many players per year.