The 2021 49ers Training Camp Thread

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Trey would have gotten so much backlash for that pick six.

Im still not understanding how Jimmy gives us such a huge advantage over Trey.

My biggest problem with the way Jimmy has played so far in the camp versus Trey is the Interceptions. I think Jimmy has thrown like 3x the number of interceptions this camp. If he is going to be more turnover-prone than Trey then I am not even sure he gives us the best chance to win right now. We are a running and defense strength football team. Now to be fair to Jimmy it sounds like he has moved the chains a little more consistently than Trey but if Jimmy is going to cause way more turnovers. Then I also am not sure he gives us much of an advantage over the rookie.

INTs in practice situations are overblown.

Yes, you sometimes might throw a pass in practice you wouldn't throw in a game. That being said a lot of times how you practice is how you are going to play. You should be practicing how you want to play as a QB. Some people will say it's just practice. I am sorry but almost an interception every practice and almost 3x the Interceptions than our rookie, who has only one year of college experience in D2 is unacceptable. Especially considering one of Jimmys biggest issues has been interceptions.

if you want to make practice as some true tell of the Future, then Trey isn't the guy.

but Preseason/Practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just Reps

Now in the Regular season, is where you want sharp practices.. but still it's just practice

Why even practice or have preseason games if it doesn't matter? Why do teams have QB competitions during training camp if how you practice doesn't matter? While it is less important than the regular season, a practice still matters. Coaches are out there evaluating these players on their performance. You think Kyle is watching Jimmy throw an Interception every day and thinking to himself oh well it is just practice.

JG threw 5 consecutive INTs in a 2019 preseason practice session then helped guide the team to a Super Bowl during the regular season. let's calm down a lil.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Dmadaking:

Originally posted by thl408:
I followed a couple Chargers beat writers for this scrimmage and they didn't post much. I want to see 1v1 Ambry/Lenoir vs KAllen. How Ebukam look? Who is playing safety opposite Ward and how did that guy look? SAM linebacker battle, is Kendricks the favorite after just being signed? Givens, Hurst, Street, with Kinlaw out who took his place?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:
Kind of disappointed that the beat writers focus so much on the offense/QBs. There's a new DC in town and I wish they gave more clips/insight on what they saw from the 49er defense. The only defensive tweet were, "Fred Warner is really good". Yeah, no s**t.

Maiocco posted a video of all of the 7on7s snaps against the Chargers O. I haven't seen anything about 11on11s though.

I saw a Chargers video from yesterday with all of their good plays. Herbert and Allen were torching us.

I followed a couple Chargers beat writers for this scrimmage and they didn't post much. I want to see 1v1 Ambry/Lenoir vs KAllen. How Ebukam look? Who is playing safety opposite Ward and how did that guy look? SAM linebacker battle, is Kendricks the favorite after just being signed? Givens, Hurst, Street, with Kinlaw out who took his place?

For what it's worth I listened to the striking gold podcast this morning recapping yesterday's practice. Kyle posey said our dline looked dominate against their 1's, that a couple guys would have had multiple sacks with dee ford leading the charge, Just doesn't effect the play cause your not allowed to touch the qb. He seems like he was the only one watching the defense with everyone focused on jimmy vs lance!

Yea, at least one of the reporters there said he counted more than 10 total sacks by the d-line yesterday with about half of them coming against the Chargers starters. Though the Chargers were without their two starting tackles yesterday supposedly.

Interesting to see that Herbert took so many sacks with it barely being mentioned, but it's the first thing Trey gets criticized for.

I personally haven't checked out anything from the chargers perspective.. I feel it's our reporters pushing that narrative( whether it's true or not) especially since lance struggled with taking sacks last week.. and right now he's the only player every fan wants to hear about!..I still feel the strength of the team is going to be the defensive front, running game and shanny's play calling.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Biggest take aways
The RG spot was a reason we lost the SB. 2 years later and the position hasn't been upgraded
Sad to say but we can't depend on Deebo's hamstrings
Only thing consistent about Jimmy is that he's inconsistent

sure would like to see some defensive stuff posted. At least if we got any sacks. Probably have to read the Chargers offensive reports to find out. I beat all 49er beat writers were watching Trey.

Yeah, RG could be an Issue again this year, thankfully we've upgraded the Center position though.

JG still consistent with those Ints, which could cost us dearly If our D Isn't top 5 This year.

Expect Deebo to miss x number of games this year with hamstring Issues, especially with the way he's utilized under Shanny.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Trey would have gotten so much backlash for that pick six.

Im still not understanding how Jimmy gives us such a huge advantage over Trey.

My biggest problem with the way Jimmy has played so far in the camp versus Trey is the Interceptions. I think Jimmy has thrown like 3x the number of interceptions this camp. If he is going to be more turnover-prone than Trey then I am not even sure he gives us the best chance to win right now. We are a running and defense strength football team. Now to be fair to Jimmy it sounds like he has moved the chains a little more consistently than Trey but if Jimmy is going to cause way more turnovers. Then I also am not sure he gives us much of an advantage over the rookie.

INTs in practice situations are overblown.

Yes, you sometimes might throw a pass in practice you wouldn't throw in a game. That being said a lot of times how you practice is how you are going to play. You should be practicing how you want to play as a QB. Some people will say it's just practice. I am sorry but almost an interception every practice and almost 3x the Interceptions than our rookie, who has only one year of college experience in D2 is unacceptable. Especially considering one of Jimmys biggest issues has been interceptions.

if you want to make practice as some true tell of the Future, then Trey isn't the guy.

but Preseason/Practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just Reps

Now in the Regular season, is where you want sharp practices.. but still it's just practice

Why even practice or have preseason games if it doesn't matter? Why do teams have QB competitions during training camp if how you practice doesn't matter? While it is less important than the regular season, a practice still matters. Coaches are out there evaluating these players on their performance. You think Kyle is watching Jimmy throw an Interception every day and thinking to himself oh well it is just practice.

You are the only one that is saying it doesn't matter ...and it's not what i said.

You are making things up now with trying to know what kyle thinks. Jimmy and Kyle talk (at practice) all the time so they are at least close to being on the same page

as for evaluating.. that goes for the bubble players. Jimmy and Trey are locked in, so it all about reps

How could someone not take the bolded to mean you think practice in the preseason doesn't matter or at the very least not very important. Of course, Kyle is talking to his QBS. I am not saying Kyle is bashing Jimmy's performance after every practice. He might think he has played really well overall I don't know. As I mentioned Jimmy has done some good but taking care of the football hasn't been one of them. But does anyone think after kyle sees an interception in practice or on film regardless of who threw it, that he thinks to himself when watching that interception? (assuming it was a bad decision or throw) that it is just practice and who cares? I dont

You absolutely still evaluate them even if they're guaranteed to make your roster. You have to decide who is starting. Even if someone is locked to start you still evaluate all positions, and how far the #2 is away in terms of skill from #1.

Originally posted by lamontb:

First play of 11 on 11. Mostert TD! pic.twitter.com/nslF7DTXfL

— Jason Aponte (@JasonAponte2103) August 20, 2021

Such deceiving speed. Gets to and glides around the corner...and he's gone!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Trey would have gotten so much backlash for that pick six.

Im still not understanding how Jimmy gives us such a huge advantage over Trey.

My biggest problem with the way Jimmy has played so far in the camp versus Trey is the Interceptions. I think Jimmy has thrown like 3x the number of interceptions this camp. If he is going to be more turnover-prone than Trey then I am not even sure he gives us the best chance to win right now. We are a running and defense strength football team. Now to be fair to Jimmy it sounds like he has moved the chains a little more consistently than Trey but if Jimmy is going to cause way more turnovers. Then I also am not sure he gives us much of an advantage over the rookie.

INTs in practice situations are overblown.

Yes, you sometimes might throw a pass in practice you wouldn't throw in a game. That being said a lot of times how you practice is how you are going to play. You should be practicing how you want to play as a QB. Some people will say it's just practice. I am sorry but almost an interception every practice and almost 3x the Interceptions than our rookie, who has only one year of college experience in D2 is unacceptable. Especially considering one of Jimmys biggest issues has been interceptions.

if you want to make practice as some true tell of the Future, then Trey isn't the guy.

but Preseason/Practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just Reps

Now in the Regular season, is where you want sharp practices.. but still it's just practice

Why even practice or have preseason games if it doesn't matter? Why do teams have QB competitions during training camp if how you practice doesn't matter? While it is less important than the regular season, a practice still matters. Coaches are out there evaluating these players on their performance. You think Kyle is watching Jimmy throw an Interception every day and thinking to himself oh well it is just practice.

You are the only one that is saying it doesn't matter ...and it's not what i said.

You are making things up now with trying to know what kyle thinks. Jimmy and Kyle talk (at practice) all the time so they are at least close to being on the same page

as for evaluating.. that goes for the bubble players. Jimmy and Trey are locked in, so it all about reps.

"Preseason/practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just reps"

If it's just reps and it doesn't have any barring over how each player will play in the future but also you say practice does matter but also we're not evaluating Trey and Jimmy just the bubble players.

Wtf are you saying??

"VIOLENT AND EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA" from eating Chargers' catered Mexican food…

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Biggest take aways
The RG spot was a reason we lost the SB. 2 years later and the position hasn't been upgraded
Sad to say but we can't depend on Deebo's hamstrings
Only thing consistent about Jimmy is that he's inconsistent

sure would like to see some defensive stuff posted. At least if we got any sacks. Probably have to read the Chargers offensive reports to find out. I beat all 49er beat writers were watching Trey.

Yeah, RG could be an Issue again this year, thankfully we've upgraded the Center position though.

JG still consistent with those Ints, which could cost us dearly If our D Isn't top 5 This year.

Expect Deebo to miss x number of games this year with hamstring Issues, especially with the way he's utilized under Shanny.

Yea and what sucks is when Deebo plays it really opens up the playbook. With all the motion and his running plays. And all the PA you can run off of those plays. The offense was totally different without him.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea and what sucks is when Deebo plays it really opens up the playbook. With all the motion and his running plays. And all the PA you can run off of those plays. The offense was totally different without him.

Really hope he gets healthy

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea and what sucks is when Deebo plays it really opens up the playbook. With all the motion and his running plays. And all the PA you can run off of those plays. The offense was totally different without him.

Well that hurts but what's Kyle supposed to do? Not run plays where Deebo is the most effective. Deebo, Bosa and Kittle all play with that reckless abandon. Expect them all to miss games from time to time because of minor injuries and hope they don't get too many major ones.

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Trey would have gotten so much backlash for that pick six.

Im still not understanding how Jimmy gives us such a huge advantage over Trey.

My biggest problem with the way Jimmy has played so far in the camp versus Trey is the Interceptions. I think Jimmy has thrown like 3x the number of interceptions this camp. If he is going to be more turnover-prone than Trey then I am not even sure he gives us the best chance to win right now. We are a running and defense strength football team. Now to be fair to Jimmy it sounds like he has moved the chains a little more consistently than Trey but if Jimmy is going to cause way more turnovers. Then I also am not sure he gives us much of an advantage over the rookie.

INTs in practice situations are overblown.

Yes, you sometimes might throw a pass in practice you wouldn't throw in a game. That being said a lot of times how you practice is how you are going to play. You should be practicing how you want to play as a QB. Some people will say it's just practice. I am sorry but almost an interception every practice and almost 3x the Interceptions than our rookie, who has only one year of college experience in D2 is unacceptable. Especially considering one of Jimmys biggest issues has been interceptions.

if you want to make practice as some true tell of the Future, then Trey isn't the guy.

but Preseason/Practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just Reps

Now in the Regular season, is where you want sharp practices.. but still it's just practice

Why even practice or have preseason games if it doesn't matter? Why do teams have QB competitions during training camp if how you practice doesn't matter? While it is less important than the regular season, a practice still matters. Coaches are out there evaluating these players on their performance. You think Kyle is watching Jimmy throw an Interception every day and thinking to himself oh well it is just practice.

You are the only one that is saying it doesn't matter ...and it's not what i said.

You are making things up now with trying to know what kyle thinks. Jimmy and Kyle talk (at practice) all the time so they are at least close to being on the same page

as for evaluating.. that goes for the bubble players. Jimmy and Trey are locked in, so it all about reps

How could someone not take the bolded to mean you think practice in the preseason doesn't matter or at the very least not very important. Of course, Kyle is talking to his QBS. I am not saying Kyle is bashing Jimmy's performance after every practice. He might think he has played really well overall I don't know. As I mentioned Jimmy has done some good but taking care of the football hasn't been one of them. But does anyone think after kyle sees an interception in practice or on film regardless of who threw it, that he thinks to himself when watching that interception? (assuming it was a bad decision or throw) that it is just practice and who cares? I dont

You absolutely still evaluate them even if they're guaranteed to make your roster. You have to decide who is starting. Even if someone is locked to start you still evaluate all positions, and how far the #2 is away in terms of skill from #1.

dude it's not hard this is preseason. There's no game planning. It just reps, Rookie development, evaluate bubble players and get into regular season shape

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Trey would have gotten so much backlash for that pick six.

Im still not understanding how Jimmy gives us such a huge advantage over Trey.

My biggest problem with the way Jimmy has played so far in the camp versus Trey is the Interceptions. I think Jimmy has thrown like 3x the number of interceptions this camp. If he is going to be more turnover-prone than Trey then I am not even sure he gives us the best chance to win right now. We are a running and defense strength football team. Now to be fair to Jimmy it sounds like he has moved the chains a little more consistently than Trey but if Jimmy is going to cause way more turnovers. Then I also am not sure he gives us much of an advantage over the rookie.

INTs in practice situations are overblown.

Yes, you sometimes might throw a pass in practice you wouldn't throw in a game. That being said a lot of times how you practice is how you are going to play. You should be practicing how you want to play as a QB. Some people will say it's just practice. I am sorry but almost an interception every practice and almost 3x the Interceptions than our rookie, who has only one year of college experience in D2 is unacceptable. Especially considering one of Jimmys biggest issues has been interceptions.

if you want to make practice as some true tell of the Future, then Trey isn't the guy.

but Preseason/Practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just Reps

Now in the Regular season, is where you want sharp practices.. but still it's just practice

Why even practice or have preseason games if it doesn't matter? Why do teams have QB competitions during training camp if how you practice doesn't matter? While it is less important than the regular season, a practice still matters. Coaches are out there evaluating these players on their performance. You think Kyle is watching Jimmy throw an Interception every day and thinking to himself oh well it is just practice.

You are the only one that is saying it doesn't matter ...and it's not what i said.

You are making things up now with trying to know what kyle thinks. Jimmy and Kyle talk (at practice) all the time so they are at least close to being on the same page

as for evaluating.. that goes for the bubble players. Jimmy and Trey are locked in, so it all about reps.

"Preseason/practice isn't a sign of what's to come. It's just reps"

If it's just reps and it doesn't have any barring over how each player will play in the future but also you say practice does matter but also we're not evaluating Trey and Jimmy just the bubble players.

Wtf are you saying??

pretty simple. and if you didn't know, there is a difference bewtween preseason and Regular season practices

my point is Preseaon is nothing to stand on or get worked up about

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
"VIOLENT AND EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA" from eating Chargers' catered Mexican food…

now you know what it feels like to be Fred Warner, minus the loose ends

Not sure if it has been posted, but I'm excited for this defense.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/8/20/22633682/49ers-defensive-line-dominates-chargers-offense

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

That starting right guard spot has to be a major area of concern for the 49ers

Daniel Brunskill just got beat on every rep he took during 1 on 1's with the Chargers defensive line, the majority of which were not particularly close either

— Jordan Elliott (@splash_cousin) August 20, 2021

Well, there's always Tom Compton.