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Aug 21, 2021 at 5:17 PM

frenchmov
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm not saying it's one way and that's it…I'm saying like I have been saying what Lance is lacking is actually playing football games. Reps.

he's been preparing like a pro now for what amounts to a full NFL season. Only difference is he now knows what team he's gonna play for.

throwing out numbers on what 1st rd QBs have failed is meaningless without context of every single QB that failed and why.

ill trust kyle either way…he hasn't said Lance should sit for a full year either. I throw out his quote all the time…he said it's hard to better at football, by not playing football.

My whole point is people bring up 2 scenarios where a QB sat for a yr+ Isn't some proven this is how it has to be done.

I just feel we are in a perfect spot to start lance week 1. Lions & eagles. They aren't guaranteed W's (nothing ever is in the NFL) but that is a tasty couple matchups to get him more up to speed.

As you say I'll trust shanny...sure hope lance can show enough in these next 2 games

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:18 PM

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Originally posted by frenchmov:

I just feel we are in a perfect spot to start lance week 1. Lions & eagles. They aren't guaranteed W's (nothing ever is in the NFL) but that is a tasty couple matchups to get him more up to speed.

As you say I'll trust shanny...sure hope lance can show enough in these next 2 games

I dunno, the one thing that can kill you in the NFL are turnovers. If you lose those games, season's basically over and you don't have your 1st round pick.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:19 PM

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Why does it seem some people want Lance to fail? I don't really understand.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

I just feel we are in a perfect spot to start lance week 1. Lions & eagles. They aren't guaranteed W's (nothing ever is in the NFL) but that is a tasty couple matchups to get him more up to speed.

As you say I'll trust shanny...sure hope lance can show enough in these next 2 games

I dunno, the one thing that can kill you in the NFL are turnovers. If you lose those games, season's basically over and you don't have your 1st round pick.

About to say the same.

On the flip side, If he struggles, not saying that he will,but if he does and we lose then the season can be done with before it even begins. Can't lose the easy ones and hope to make the playoffs.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:25 PM

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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i'm only using mahomes as an example of it being OK if Lance sits for a bit. Kyle works closely with Lance everyday, I trust his judgement.

I don't see how you can have a kid with one yr of football (as a freshman), that would then end up sitting out multiple yrs of football coming in and being the starter in 2022…and expect instant success "like Mahomes"…people better not be expecting 50TDs out the gate because that's what people will be expecting with all these Mahomes talk.

he should play at some point this yr, legit in the pocket snaps not just a couple RZ ZRs.

just my opinion, we will see.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by TownNiner:
Why does it seem some people want Lance to fail? I don't really understand.

Who do you think wants Lance to fail? If there is anyone rooting for that, they certainly arent a Niner fan.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:27 PM

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Who do you think wants Lance to fail? If there is anyone rooting for that, they certainly arent a Niner fan.

I don't think Bama fan guy wants him to fail but he's pretty negative on Lance ever being good.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:28 PM

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Originally posted by dhp318:
I dunno, the one thing that can kill you in the NFL are turnovers. If you lose those games, season's basically over and you don't have your 1st round pick.

Agreed. And Jimmy g is an absolute turnover machine so far in his career. He can get on hot streaks too so I'm not just trying to s**t on him but I really get nervous with Jimmy there.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:30 PM

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Originally posted by dhp318:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

I just feel we are in a perfect spot to start lance week 1. Lions & eagles. They aren't guaranteed W's (nothing ever is in the NFL) but that is a tasty couple matchups to get him more up to speed.

As you say I'll trust shanny...sure hope lance can show enough in these next 2 games

I dunno, the one thing that can kill you in the NFL are turnovers. If you lose those games, season's basically over and you don't have your 1st round pick.

Is that an argument for or against starting him over Jimmy?

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:30 PM

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Originally posted by TownNiner:
Why does it seem some people want Lance to fail? I don't really understand.

If that's what you think, then you truly don't understand.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Who do you think wants Lance to fail? If there is anyone rooting for that, they certainly arent a Niner fan.

I don't think Bama fan guy wants him to fail but he's pretty negative on Lance ever being good.

Yeah, I think may be right lol

Anyone else? He said some. I took that as more than one.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:34 PM

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Jimmy has something like 40 turnovers in 30 games. I'm not putting 100% blame for every turnover on him (he's had a few bogus pop ups by our receivers) but the vast majority ARE on him.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:34 PM

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Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dhp318:
I dunno, the one thing that can kill you in the NFL are turnovers. If you lose those games, season's basically over and you don't have your 1st round pick.

Agreed. And Jimmy g is an absolute turnover machine so far in his career. He can get on hot streaks too so I'm not just trying to s**t on him but I really get nervous with Jimmy there.

Jimmy does turn it over but he usually makes up for it the next drive. It's actually, a trait that I like about him. His ability to bounce back from those mistakes. I don't really remember him doing it at critical times to lose a game. Maybe I'm forgetting some.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:35 PM

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah, I think may be right lol

Anyone else? He said some. I took that as more than one.

It's actually more on Twitter, which is difficult to gauge I guess because trolls be trolling.

I get people have their favourite players but it's all Niners right, whoever is the best and doing the best, who really gives a s**t as long as we're winning and progressing.

Aug 21, 2021 at 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Jimmy does turn it over but he usually makes up for it the next drive. It's actually, a trait that I like about him. His ability to bounce back from those mistakes. I don't really remember him doing it at critical times to lose a game. Maybe I'm forgetting some.

That's a good trait to have but when you are averaging over a turnover a game it's just a bad result.