The 2021 49ers Training Camp Thread

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
2017 Jimmy was just ad libbing and using a pared down play book.

2019 Jimmy just came off of an ACL injury which is typically an off year for a QB. People forget that. That was pretty good for an off year.

I am expecting a huge year from Jimmy because he's never had a fully healthy season while having full command of the playbook. Jimmy looked good in the Jets game last year when he wasn't just throwing to Dante Pettis and Kendrick Bourne.

The Jets we're pretty awful though last year. Jimmy's last two full games played, The cards and the super bowl, not good outings for JG by any means. He'll have to play with more confidence this year If we're to reach the playoffs

He hasn't had a legitimately good game since 2019.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
All of this. These posters were watching closely (and remembering) that 2019 season.

And no, Garoppolo isn't a turnover machine. Yes, he needs to cut down the INTs. I think most would agree about that. I've seen true turnover-machine QBs in watching the position closely since the '70s - even have seen good QBs that were more worthy of the "turnover machine" label than Garoppolo.

I'm thinking Garoppolo will cut down on them starting this season. He needs to, no doubt about it. But I also like the way he's competitive and takes it upon himself to immediately come back strong after INTs and help this team re-gain momentum in games time and time again.

Lol yea hes just going to magically flip the switch. Hes still making the same turnover mistakes hes done since he got here back in 2017.

We'll see when the actual real games begin this season. He needs to reduce them and he knows it - with the competitor he's shown to be, I'm looking forward to seeing him respond to the challenge.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Jimmy G's ceiling is Tony Romo. Absolutely brilliant most of the time with some huge WTF moments.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
2017 Jimmy was just ad libbing and using a pared down play book.

2019 Jimmy just came off of an ACL injury which is typically an off year for a QB. People forget that. That was pretty good for an off year.

I am expecting a huge year from Jimmy because he's never had a fully healthy season while having full command of the playbook. Jimmy looked good in the Jets game last year when he wasn't just throwing to Dante Pettis and Kendrick Bourne.

The Jets we're pretty awful though last year. Jimmy's last two full games played, The cards and the super bowl, not good outings for JG by any means. He'll have to play with more confidence this year If we're to reach the playoffs

He hasn't had a legitimately good game since 2019.

what part of JG's 3 TD performance last year in beating the Rams top defense wasnt legitimate?

Originally posted by boast:
what part of JG's 3 TD performance last year in beating the Rams top defense wasnt legitimate?

was that the sunday night game when idiot collinsworth was slobbering all over aaron d only to have him do NOTHING? maybe that was the second game between the two teams? can not remember. a big chunk of last year was a nightmare.. but boast of course was right

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Jimmy G's ceiling is Tony Romo. Absolutely brilliant most of the time with some huge WTF moments.

That's a good call. If Jimmy could eliminate the bonehead INT he seems to make so often then his other short comings like lack of mobility wouldn't be as glaring. It's frustrating to have the offense moving along well with him hitting short quick passes mixed in with runs only to have it end with a dumb throw. I'm not talking about a pass that gets tipped or one where he's trying to make a play. It's the ones where he seems to throw it right into the defense like he doesn't even see it. A guy that's been in the league as long as him can't make those kind of plays as often as he does.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Has shnny revealed how many drives the ones will get and how many Lance will get with the ones?

He hasn't but

Guess: A quarter for Garoppolo, two quarters for Lance, one quarter for Sudfeld, no quarters for Rosen. (I'm iffy on the last one). https://t.co/ZgyGxvW6bk

— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) August 22, 2021

Did barrows forget that Rosen was cut?

It's Barrows so that's probably THE joke.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
2017 Jimmy was just ad libbing and using a pared down play book.

2019 Jimmy just came off of an ACL injury which is typically an off year for a QB. People forget that. That was pretty good for an off year.

I am expecting a huge year from Jimmy because he's never had a fully healthy season while having full command of the playbook. Jimmy looked good in the Jets game last year when he wasn't just throwing to Dante Pettis and Kendrick Bourne.

The Jets we're pretty awful though last year. Jimmy's last two full games played, The cards and the super bowl, not good outings for JG by any means. He'll have to play with more confidence this year If we're to reach the playoffs

He hasn't had a legitimately good game since 2019.

what part of JG's 3 TD performance last year in beating the Rams top defense wasnt legitimate?

He had a total of 45 air yards. 268 Passing yards, 223 YAC. That's good offense from Shanahan, but the QB was not asked to do a whole lot.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by boast:
what part of JG's 3 TD performance last year in beating the Rams top defense wasnt legitimate?

was that the sunday night game when idiot collinsworth was slobbering all over aaron d only to have him do NOTHING? maybe that was the second game between the two teams? can not remember. a big chunk of last year was a nightmare.. but boast of course was right

yes.

and this why 49ersRing's takes are ignorantly ridiculous. he either doesnt watch Niner games or he's being a low key troll sent from another forum.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
When someone's favorite QB loses it's because the line didn't give him time to throw or the receivers suck. When the team wins it's all because of the QB. Every winning team needs good balance on offense and defense along with good coaching. If they ge tall that then all they need is good fortune. I hate it when people say this guy or that guy is a winner because his team wins.No matter how good one player is, you can't win without a good team around you. The Niners won a lot of games in 2019 but it wasn't because of Jimmy or Deebo or Kittle. They certainly were part of it but the defense had as much or more to do with them them getting into the playoffs.

Well said!

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by boast:
what part of JG's 3 TD performance last year in beating the Rams top defense wasnt legitimate?

was that the sunday night game when idiot collinsworth was slobbering all over aaron d only to have him do NOTHING? maybe that was the second game between the two teams? can not remember. a big chunk of last year was a nightmare.. but boast of course was right

yes.

and this why 49ersRing's takes are ignorantly ridiculous. he either doesnt watch Niner games or he's being a low key troll sent from another forum.

Hmm. It's weird to accuse me of not watching the games just because I'm not willing to boil everything down to "team won = Jimmy good". It's actually difficult to know what actually happened from watching the game on TV, which is why the all-22 has become so popular. There's more advanced statistics and game film available now than ever before and people should take advantage of that.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by boast:

what part of JG's 3 TD performance last year in beating the Rams top defense wasnt legitimate?

was that the sunday night game when idiot collinsworth was slobbering all over aaron d only to have him do NOTHING? maybe that was the second game between the two teams? can not remember. a big chunk of last year was a nightmare.. but boast of course was right

yes.

and this why 49ersRing's takes are ignorantly ridiculous. he either doesnt watch Niner games or he's being a low key troll sent from another forum.

Hmm. It's weird to accuse me of not watching the games just because I'm not willing to boil everything down to "team won = Jimmy good". It's actually difficult to know what actually happened from watching the game on TV, which is why the all-22 has become so popular. There's more advanced statistics and game film available now than ever before and people should take advantage of that.

lol. ok dude.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Hmm. It's weird to accuse me of not watching the games just because I'm not willing to boil everything down to "team won = Jimmy good". It's actually difficult to know what actually happened from watching the game on TV, which is why the all-22 has become so popular. There's more advanced statistics and game film available now than ever before and people should take advantage of that.

I will just respectfully say.. for you to downgrade jimmys good game vs the rams and pour water on it but saying it was all yards after the catch and jimmy deserves no credit is illogical at best. its like telling us that frank gores game or mostert or whoever where he ran for 120 yards is not that much of a positive cuz 70 was on one run alone. people who resort to that sort of paralysis by analysis are just trying to hard to create or generate a negative perception... in other words, i think your blind loyalty to your hatred of jimmy prevents you from being objective.. in my opnion

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by cciowa:
The days when some thought we had the deepest wide out group and they would be rocks for us for years. pettis bourne james and taylor . were we ever that young and foolish?

That never happened.

You are dead wrong but thats fine.. when some of us dared said we could do better. we were lectured on kyle and how the offense is built around these quote.. little ankle breaking guys. the denial that we needed better wide outs from some was evident in the hours before the sanders trade and some were outraged cuz we were just " fine". you may just choose to remember what you want but the posts of is our offensive line that bad and are our wide outs that bad etch in my memory

Some did not tell us that, but some implied that some told us that There was some hope but you are greatly exaggerating said hope at the time.

We were NOT told.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Hmm. It's weird to accuse me of not watching the games just because I'm not willing to boil everything down to "team won = Jimmy good". It's actually difficult to know what actually happened from watching the game on TV, which is why the all-22 has become so popular. There's more advanced statistics and game film available now than ever before and people should take advantage of that.

I will just respectfully say.. for you to downgrade jimmys good game vs the rams and pour water on it but saying it was all yards after the catch and jimmy deserves no credit is illogical at best. its like telling us that frank gores game or mostert or whoever where he ran for 120 yards is not that much of a positive cuz 70 was on one run alone. people who resort to that sort of paralysis by analysis are just trying to hard to create or generate a negative perception... in other words, i think your blind loyalty to your hatred of jimmy prevents you from being objective.. in my opnion

In your opinion is there no difference in the difficulty of an 80 yard TD pass that traveled 50 yards in the air to hit a receiver in stride vs. an 80 yard TD pass that was a screen that included 80 yards of YAC?