Preseason 2021: 49ers at Chargers - Game 2

Mo hurst got hurt?

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jimmy is about done developing. And if he remains the starter and we win the SB, he'll bring us a first round pick. You know this deep in your heart. Time to admit it to yourself.

lol no he's not. again less than 1000 pass attempts. it's hard to take you serious when you ignore this important point.

I responded to this. He is almost 30. That plays a big role in what and how you can learn. Moreover, he has 1000 attempts in the NFL, but 8 years worth of practice, as well as his college career. He is not a clean slate. What he is is just about what he will ever be.

Kyler has more attempts than Jimmy. is his development done? age is irrelevant to experience.

I told you... AGE matters. The human brain has more plasticity at a younger age. And so do practice reps, each one of which incrementally cements certain tendencies in your brain (which is why Murray and Lance have way more room to develop than Jimmy).

Can't learn s**t after 29 I guess

lol 5GR reaching with brain plasticity comments. not only is 5GR a QB coach, he's a neurologist.

The evidence supports what I said. Very, very rarely do QBs develop skills related to intuition and feel after they've been in the league nearly a decade.

just admit you're really reaching now. it's getting sad.

What? No way. I made this very same argument to NYniner when arguing about the rookies. First of all, traits like field vision are already extremely hard to develop — even at a younger age. Second, it's a fact of life that the further you get away from the teenage years the harder these kinds of things become to learn. Once gain, it's the same reason older people who haven't really played video games struggle with things like VR, while younger people thrive with it.

You are either born with these kinds of traits, or you learn them when you're young enough to not have hardwired your brain in that area.

show me studies where QBs are unable to develop after being in the league for 7 years. if you can't do this you're reaching and basically trying to connect obtuse dots that don't exist.

jesus christ. this is nothing but pure hate for a specific player. you think you know everything about QBing and now you think you know everything about neurology in sports. lol.

No one is studying the mental development of QBs in academia.

Nevertheless, the science says your brain more or less solidifies at TWENTY-FIVE, or there abouts. Do you dispute this?

https://aginggreatly.com/what-age-harder-to-learn/

https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.13073

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Cut Sudfeld easily, no one is going to pick him up and if Jimmy gets hurt sign him back. Can't risk losing a good dline rotational piece for a trash 3rd string qb

I agree.

I dont expect much from 3rd string QBs but he could not do anything. His one first down was because he got absolutely rocked on a penalty.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jimmy is about done developing. And if he remains the starter and we win the SB, he'll bring us a first round pick. You know this deep in your heart. Time to admit it to yourself.

lol no he's not. again less than 1000 pass attempts. it's hard to take you serious when you ignore this important point.

I responded to this. He is almost 30. That plays a big role in what and how you can learn. Moreover, he has 1000 attempts in the NFL, but 8 years worth of practice, as well as his college career. He is not a clean slate. What he is is just about what he will ever be.

Kyler has more attempts than Jimmy. is his development done? age is irrelevant to experience.

I told you... AGE matters. The human brain has more plasticity at a younger age. And so do practice reps, each one of which incrementally cements certain tendencies in your brain (which is why Murray and Lance have way more room to develop than Jimmy).

Can't learn s**t after 29 I guess

lol 5GR reaching with brain plasticity comments. not only is 5GR a QB coach, he's a neurologist.

The evidence supports what I said. Very, very rarely do QBs develop skills related to intuition and feel after they've been in the league nearly a decade.

just admit you're really reaching now. it's getting sad.

What? No way. I made this very same argument to NYniner when arguing about the rookies. First of all, traits like field vision are already extremely hard to develop — even at a younger age. Second, it's a fact of life that the further you get away from the teenage years the harder these kinds of things become to learn. Once gain, it's the same reason older people who haven't really played video games struggle with things like VR, while younger people thrive with it.

You are either born with these kinds of traits, or you learn them when you're young enough to not have hardwired your brain in that area.

show me studies where QBs are unable to develop after being in the league for 7 years. if you can't do this you're reaching and basically trying to connect obtuse dots that don't exist.

jesus christ. this is nothing but pure hate for a specific player. you think you know everything about QBing and now you think you know everything about neurology in sports. lol.

Agreed. There've been some pretty successful QBs that developed later in their career. Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett come to mind.

And the question is WHY. What did they change? There always exceptions, but with Rich Gannon if I recall correctly, what changed was his ability to read a defense — NOT his visual awareness (his peripheral vision in particular did not change, which is where Jimmy struggles). Rich got better at reading defenses, not at seeing defenders in his periphery. (and how much did the scheme he was put in matter?)

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Mo hurst got hurt?

Dude was literally in the backfield on every play to start the game and then twists his ankle.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jimmy is about done developing. And if he remains the starter and we win the SB, he'll bring us a first round pick. You know this deep in your heart. Time to admit it to yourself.

lol no he's not. again less than 1000 pass attempts. it's hard to take you serious when you ignore this important point.

I responded to this. He is almost 30. That plays a big role in what and how you can learn. Moreover, he has 1000 attempts in the NFL, but 8 years worth of practice, as well as his college career. He is not a clean slate. What he is is just about what he will ever be.

Kyler has more attempts than Jimmy. is his development done? age is irrelevant to experience.

I told you... AGE matters. The human brain has more plasticity at a younger age. And so do practice reps, each one of which incrementally cements certain tendencies in your brain (which is why Murray and Lance have way more room to develop than Jimmy).

Can't learn s**t after 29 I guess

lol 5GR reaching with brain plasticity comments. not only is 5GR a QB coach, he's a neurologist.

The evidence supports what I said. Very, very rarely do QBs develop skills related to intuition and feel after they've been in the league nearly a decade.

just admit you're really reaching now. it's getting sad.

What? No way. I made this very same argument to NYniner when arguing about the rookies. First of all, traits like field vision are already extremely hard to develop — even at a younger age. Second, it's a fact of life that the further you get away from the teenage years the harder these kinds of things become to learn. Once gain, it's the same reason older people who haven't really played video games struggle with things like VR, while younger people thrive with it.

You are either born with these kinds of traits, or you learn them when you're young enough to not have hardwired your brain in that area.

show me studies where QBs are unable to develop after being in the league for 7 years. if you can't do this you're reaching and basically trying to connect obtuse dots that don't exist.

jesus christ. this is nothing but pure hate for a specific player. you think you know everything about QBing and now you think you know everything about neurology in sports. lol.

No one is studying the mental development of QBs in academia.

Nevertheless, the science says your brain more or less solidifies at TWENTY-FIVE, or there abouts. Do you dispute this?

https://aginggreatly.com/what-age-harder-to-learn/

https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.13073

25? Sure, that's why musicians never get better after reaching 25. Same with other pro athletes, weather it be boxing or basketball, nobody gets better after age 25, ever.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jimmy is about done developing. And if he remains the starter and we win the SB, he'll bring us a first round pick. You know this deep in your heart. Time to admit it to yourself.

lol no he's not. again less than 1000 pass attempts. it's hard to take you serious when you ignore this important point.

I responded to this. He is almost 30. That plays a big role in what and how you can learn. Moreover, he has 1000 attempts in the NFL, but 8 years worth of practice, as well as his college career. He is not a clean slate. What he is is just about what he will ever be.

Kyler has more attempts than Jimmy. is his development done? age is irrelevant to experience.

I told you... AGE matters. The human brain has more plasticity at a younger age. And so do practice reps, each one of which incrementally cements certain tendencies in your brain (which is why Murray and Lance have way more room to develop than Jimmy).

Can't learn s**t after 29 I guess

lol 5GR reaching with brain plasticity comments. not only is 5GR a QB coach, he's a neurologist.

The evidence supports what I said. Very, very rarely do QBs develop skills related to intuition and feel after they've been in the league nearly a decade.

just admit you're really reaching now. it's getting sad.

What? No way. I made this very same argument to NYniner when arguing about the rookies. First of all, traits like field vision are already extremely hard to develop — even at a younger age. Second, it's a fact of life that the further you get away from the teenage years the harder these kinds of things become to learn. Once gain, it's the same reason older people who haven't really played video games struggle with things like VR, while younger people thrive with it.

You are either born with these kinds of traits, or you learn them when you're young enough to not have hardwired your brain in that area.

show me studies where QBs are unable to develop after being in the league for 7 years. if you can't do this you're reaching and basically trying to connect obtuse dots that don't exist.

jesus christ. this is nothing but pure hate for a specific player. you think you know everything about QBing and now you think you know everything about neurology in sports. lol.

No one is studying the mental development of QBs in academia.

Nevertheless, the science says your brain more or less solidifies at TWENTY-FIVE, or there abouts. Do you dispute this?

https://aginggreatly.com/what-age-harder-to-learn/

https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.13073

25? Sure, that's why musicians never get better after reaching 25. Same with other pro athletes, weather it be boxing or basketball, nobody gets better after age 25, ever.

Why do you think the best musicians start at 3 years old? Why is it that only CHILDREN can learn perfect pitch? (or at least, if an adult can develop perfect pitch, it's almost unheard of)

And I did NOT say Jimmy can't get better. In fact I listed THREE THINGS he can get better at. YOUR credibility is now in the toilet after this blatant attempt to create a straw man. I listed ONE thing Jimmy will not get better at (and he HASN'T in 8 years of practice): and that's field vision.

I also specified why: accuracy is a mechanical skill. That can be learned through repetition. His deep accuracy is related to mechanics. That can also be drilled over and over again. The other thing was reading a defense. He can get better at that with more study.

What I said he very likely CAN'T get better in is his intuitive, peripheral vision. His field vision/awareness. That is more of a talent, and to develop talents like that, you are much better served mastering them when younger.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jimmy is about done developing. And if he remains the starter and we win the SB, he'll bring us a first round pick. You know this deep in your heart. Time to admit it to yourself.

lol no he's not. again less than 1000 pass attempts. it's hard to take you serious when you ignore this important point.

I responded to this. He is almost 30. That plays a big role in what and how you can learn. Moreover, he has 1000 attempts in the NFL, but 8 years worth of practice, as well as his college career. He is not a clean slate. What he is is just about what he will ever be.

Kyler has more attempts than Jimmy. is his development done? age is irrelevant to experience.

I told you... AGE matters. The human brain has more plasticity at a younger age. And so do practice reps, each one of which incrementally cements certain tendencies in your brain (which is why Murray and Lance have way more room to develop than Jimmy).

Can't learn s**t after 29 I guess

lol 5GR reaching with brain plasticity comments. not only is 5GR a QB coach, he's a neurologist.

The evidence supports what I said. Very, very rarely do QBs develop skills related to intuition and feel after they've been in the league nearly a decade.

just admit you're really reaching now. it's getting sad.

What? No way. I made this very same argument to NYniner when arguing about the rookies. First of all, traits like field vision are already extremely hard to develop — even at a younger age. Second, it's a fact of life that the further you get away from the teenage years the harder these kinds of things become to learn. Once gain, it's the same reason older people who haven't really played video games struggle with things like VR, while younger people thrive with it.

You are either born with these kinds of traits, or you learn them when you're young enough to not have hardwired your brain in that area.

show me studies where QBs are unable to develop after being in the league for 7 years. if you can't do this you're reaching and basically trying to connect obtuse dots that don't exist.

jesus christ. this is nothing but pure hate for a specific player. you think you know everything about QBing and now you think you know everything about neurology in sports. lol.

No one is studying the mental development of QBs in academia.

Nevertheless, the science says your brain more or less solidifies at TWENTY-FIVE, or there abouts. Do you dispute this?

https://aginggreatly.com/what-age-harder-to-learn/

https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.13073

youre reaching hard.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
And the question is WHY. What did they change? There always exceptions, but with Rich Gannon if I recall correctly, what changed was his ability to read a defense — NOT his visual awareness (his peripheral vision in particular did not change, which is where Jimmy struggles). Rich got better at reading defenses, not at seeing defenders in his periphery. (and how much did the scheme he was put in matter?)

youre reaching harder.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Why do you think the best musicians start at 3 years old? Why is it that only CHILDREN can learn perfect pitch? (or at least, if an adult can develop perfect pitch, it's almost unheard of)

And I did NOT say Jimmy can't get better. In fact I listed THREE THINGS he can get better at. YOUR credibility is now in the toilet after this blatant attempt to create a straw man. I listed ONE thing Jimmy will not get better at (and he HASN'T in 8 years of practice): and that's field vision.

I also specified why: accuracy is a mechanical skill. That can be learned through repetition. His deep accuracy is related to mechanics. That can also be drilled over and over again. The other thing was reading a defense. He can get better at that with more study.

What I said he very likely CAN'T get better in is his intuitive, peripheral vision. His field vision/awareness. That is more of a talent, and to develop talents like that, you are much better served mastering them when younger.

youre f**king Plastic Man!

just admit you hate Jimmy with every bone in your body.

D-mo is the real deal. He was s**t down the whole game, you can tell teams are targeting ambry Thomas right now but he will improve with reps

We don't need Sudfield. Just sign a QB off the street if Jimmy and Trey get hurt. Seasons over anyway if that happens

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Jimmy is about done developing. And if he remains the starter and we win the SB, he'll bring us a first round pick. You know this deep in your heart. Time to admit it to yourself.

lol no he's not. again less than 1000 pass attempts. it's hard to take you serious when you ignore this important point.

I responded to this. He is almost 30. That plays a big role in what and how you can learn. Moreover, he has 1000 attempts in the NFL, but 8 years worth of practice, as well as his college career. He is not a clean slate. What he is is just about what he will ever be.

Kyler has more attempts than Jimmy. is his development done? age is irrelevant to experience.

I told you... AGE matters. The human brain has more plasticity at a younger age. And so do practice reps, each one of which incrementally cements certain tendencies in your brain (which is why Murray and Lance have way more room to develop than Jimmy).

Can't learn s**t after 29 I guess

lol 5GR reaching with brain plasticity comments. not only is 5GR a QB coach, he's a neurologist.

The evidence supports what I said. Very, very rarely do QBs develop skills related to intuition and feel after they've been in the league nearly a decade.

just admit you're really reaching now. it's getting sad.

What? No way. I made this very same argument to NYniner when arguing about the rookies. First of all, traits like field vision are already extremely hard to develop — even at a younger age. Second, it's a fact of life that the further you get away from the teenage years the harder these kinds of things become to learn. Once gain, it's the same reason older people who haven't really played video games struggle with things like VR, while younger people thrive with it.

You are either born with these kinds of traits, or you learn them when you're young enough to not have hardwired your brain in that area.

show me studies where QBs are unable to develop after being in the league for 7 years. if you can't do this you're reaching and basically trying to connect obtuse dots that don't exist.

jesus christ. this is nothing but pure hate for a specific player. you think you know everything about QBing and now you think you know everything about neurology in sports. lol.

No one is studying the mental development of QBs in academia.

Nevertheless, the science says your brain more or less solidifies at TWENTY-FIVE, or there abouts. Do you dispute this?

https://aginggreatly.com/what-age-harder-to-learn/

https://srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cdev.13073

youre reaching hard.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
And the question is WHY. What did they change? There always exceptions, but with Rich Gannon if I recall correctly, what changed was his ability to read a defense — NOT his visual awareness (his peripheral vision in particular did not change, which is where Jimmy struggles). Rich got better at reading defenses, not at seeing defenders in his periphery. (and how much did the scheme he was put in matter?)

youre reaching harder.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Why do you think the best musicians start at 3 years old? Why is it that only CHILDREN can learn perfect pitch? (or at least, if an adult can develop perfect pitch, it's almost unheard of)

And I did NOT say Jimmy can't get better. In fact I listed THREE THINGS he can get better at. YOUR credibility is now in the toilet after this blatant attempt to create a straw man. I listed ONE thing Jimmy will not get better at (and he HASN'T in 8 years of practice): and that's field vision.

I also specified why: accuracy is a mechanical skill. That can be learned through repetition. His deep accuracy is related to mechanics. That can also be drilled over and over again. The other thing was reading a defense. He can get better at that with more study.

What I said he very likely CAN'T get better in is his intuitive, peripheral vision. His field vision/awareness. That is more of a talent, and to develop talents like that, you are much better served mastering them when younger.

youre f**king Plastic Man!

just admit you hate Jimmy with every bone in your body.

You're dodging.

I love Jimmy when he plays well. I also know what I've seen, and I know — know — he's not going to get that much better, and I've listed my reasons. When Trey has his job and Jimmy isn't on the team anymore you'll conveniently forget all about this.

Imagine Rosen was worse...

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

You're dodging.

I love Jimmy when he plays well. I also know what I've seen, and I know — know — he's not going to get that much better, and I've listed my reasons. When Trey has his job and Jimmy isn't on the team anymore you'll conveniently forget all about this.

no. i'm just not entertaining your clearly bs responses.

like you said.. "nobody is studying the mental development of QBs"

but you seem to think you know everything about QBs and their neurological development.

you're like the antivaxxers who read some s**t on the internet and know more than experts.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Cut Sudfeld easily, no one is going to pick him up and if Jimmy gets hurt sign him back. Can't risk losing a good dline rotational piece for a trash 3rd string qb

I agree.

I dont expect much from 3rd string QBs but he could not do anything. His one first down was because he got absolutely rocked on a penalty.

Fire the QB coach for suggesting the team sign this guy!
And give him a guaranteed contract? Are you kidding me? He's done nothing his whole NFL career. Looked horrible in Philly. But somehow he's the backup QB. (after JG inevitably gets injured). CJ and Mullens were infinitely better. Why not hang on to one of them?
Some team decisions are head scratching.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Mo hurst got hurt?

Ankle. Not sure the severity. He started with DJ in the middle.