Do we need to make an aggressive trade

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I disagree, what the 49ers really need to take this defense to elite is a ball hawking Safety like a Ed Reed or Earl Thomas. Sure those aren't easy to come by but Jimmie Ward is just not gonna change his game and become that any time soon.

Safety isn't a issue here…when you line up DJ or a 5th rd rookie on Adams it's show over.

I was wrong about not needing more CB help when we spoke…I still think reaching for a RG over Asante Samuel Jr was a huge mistake.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
But I thought Ward takes away the deep pass?? I could've sworn the deep pass was killing the defense last night or am I wrong??

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I disagree, what the 49ers really need to take this defense to elite is a ball hawking Safety like a Ed Reed or Earl Thomas. Sure those aren't easy to come by but Jimmie Ward is just not gonna change his game and become that any time soon.

Safety isn't a issue here…when you line up DJ or a 5th rd rookie on Adams it's show over.

I was wrong about not needing more CB help when we spoke…I still think reaching for a RG over Asante Samuel Jr was a huge mistake.

But I thought Ward takes away the deep pass?? I could've sworn the deep pass was killing the defense last night or am I wrong??

Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
Yea let's just trade for a top RB and let's get a top CB too.

makes sense.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
Yea let's just trade for a top RB and let's get a top CB too.

makes sense.

Think the Giants will take Aaron Banks for Saquan?

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Nope. No aggressive trades because even if we had a shutdown corner, it wouldn't have prevented this loss.

At some point two things are going to eventually come back to bite you in the ass:
(1) Bad drafts, particularly busting more than hitting annually on rounds 1 - 3/4
(2) Projecting oft injured players as starters

One CB isn't going to stop that bleeding. We should be asking why is Banks not playing over Brunskill. Why was Sermon drafted that high? Why was Aiyuk drafted in round 2? Why did we project Verett to be a starter with no insurance policy?

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
Yea let's just trade for a top RB and let's get a top CB too.

makes sense.

Think the Giants will take Aaron Banks for Saquan?

Coming off major injury. Just what we like

Originally posted by Hysterical:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I disagree, what the 49ers really need to take this defense to elite is a ball hawking Safety like a Ed Reed or Earl Thomas. Sure those aren't easy to come by but Jimmie Ward is just not gonna change his game and become that any time soon.

Safety isn't a issue here…when you line up DJ or a 5th rd rookie on Adams it's show over.

I was wrong about not needing more CB help when we spoke…I still think reaching for a RG over Asante Samuel Jr was a huge mistake.

But I thought Ward takes away the deep pass?? I could've sworn the deep pass was killing the defense last night or am I wrong??

Without looking at the all 22 it looked like we switched to 2 deep safeties after halftime. We got beat by single high a lot and that's the kinda coverage people were excited for when Ryan's was talking about being more aggressive.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Hysterical:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I disagree, what the 49ers really need to take this defense to elite is a ball hawking Safety like a Ed Reed or Earl Thomas. Sure those aren't easy to come by but Jimmie Ward is just not gonna change his game and become that any time soon.

Safety isn't a issue here…when you line up DJ or a 5th rd rookie on Adams it's show over.

I was wrong about not needing more CB help when we spoke…I still think reaching for a RG over Asante Samuel Jr was a huge mistake.

But I thought Ward takes away the deep pass?? I could've sworn the deep pass was killing the defense last night or am I wrong??

Without looking at the all 22 it looked like we switched to 2 deep safeties after halftime. We got beat by single high a lot and that's the kinda coverage people were excited for when Ryan's was talking about being more aggressive.

The defense last night was opposite of "aggressive". lol I'd say "scared" is a better word. But yah, that's what we were hearing all off season how Ryans wants to make his mark on defense and be more aggressive.......then proceeds to re-sign all of Saleh's players!!!

Sorry I just can't stand soft ass defenses like last night.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
If we weren't gonna play Lance, and we are in "Win Now" mode, we should have used the picks we gave up for Lance and Jimmy G in a trade for Stafford instead of letting him go to a division rival.

I think it is too late to make a trade at this point. The only moves that make sense is to sign Sherman and let our RB's get healthy.

We are who we are

3rd round Draft picks sitting on the sideline...?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Hysterical:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I disagree, what the 49ers really need to take this defense to elite is a ball hawking Safety like a Ed Reed or Earl Thomas. Sure those aren't easy to come by but Jimmie Ward is just not gonna change his game and become that any time soon.

Safety isn't a issue here…when you line up DJ or a 5th rd rookie on Adams it's show over.

I was wrong about not needing more CB help when we spoke…I still think reaching for a RG over Asante Samuel Jr was a huge mistake.

But I thought Ward takes away the deep pass?? I could've sworn the deep pass was killing the defense last night or am I wrong??

Without looking at the all 22 it looked like we switched to 2 deep safeties after halftime. We got beat by single high a lot and that's the kinda coverage people were excited for when Ryan's was talking about being more aggressive.

The defense last night was opposite of "aggressive". lol I'd say "scared" is a better word. But yah, that's what we were hearing all off season how Ryans wants to make his mark on defense and be more aggressive.......then proceeds to re-sign all of Saleh's players!!!

Sorry I just can't stand soft ass defenses like last night.

I'm with you my man I love good defense. I don't know how we don't just double Adams all game and force someone else to beat us.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
If we weren't gonna play Lance, and we are in "Win Now" mode, we should have used the picks we gave up for Lance and Jimmy G in a trade for Stafford instead of letting him go to a division rival.

I think it is too late to make a trade at this point. The only moves that make sense is to sign Sherman and let our RB's get healthy.

We are who we are

3rd round Draft picks sitting on the sideline...?

2nd round draft picks not even dressing. There were a lot of people who wanted Stafford and I think if the Rams weren't so aggressive we woulda made the trade.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Hysterical:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I disagree, what the 49ers really need to take this defense to elite is a ball hawking Safety like a Ed Reed or Earl Thomas. Sure those aren't easy to come by but Jimmie Ward is just not gonna change his game and become that any time soon.

Safety isn't a issue here…when you line up DJ or a 5th rd rookie on Adams it's show over.

I was wrong about not needing more CB help when we spoke…I still think reaching for a RG over Asante Samuel Jr was a huge mistake.

But I thought Ward takes away the deep pass?? I could've sworn the deep pass was killing the defense last night or am I wrong??

Without looking at the all 22 it looked like we switched to 2 deep safeties after halftime. We got beat by single high a lot and that's the kinda coverage people were excited for when Ryan's was talking about being more aggressive.

The defense last night was opposite of "aggressive". lol I'd say "scared" is a better word. But yah, that's what we were hearing all off season how Ryans wants to make his mark on defense and be more aggressive.......then proceeds to re-sign all of Saleh's players!!!

Sorry I just can't stand soft ass defenses like last night.

I'm with you my man I love good defense. I don't know how we don't just double Adams all game and force someone else to beat us.

My thoughts exactly, time after time catch after catch we were seeing Davante Adams being covered one on one like he was nothing to worry about. Treating his ass like JJ Stokes when he was torching the defense like his name was ummm yah Davante Adams.

Now what in the actual f**k is the secondary gonna do this upcoming week with Metcalf and Lockett coming to town!!!!