⛏ SF 49ers vs Seattle Seahawks Pregame Thread - 2021 Season Wk 4

Originally posted by ElDannMann:

Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
Here's the hard reality. We are not the best team in this division. At least not with their current roster.

We have the 4th best QB in the division plus the injuries, no way we pull out on top this season.

Rams or Arizona will win it, but as long as Seattle has Wilson, they always have a chance.

I don't have that same confidence with us having Jimmy all season.

With possibly having 2 or 3 teams from this division in the playoffs this year, the odds aren't looking great for us.

Yes I know it's still early, but I'm just facing the music. I rather have low expectations and not be surprised by the outcome, than to have high expectations and the niners disappoint.

Call it whatever you want. just saying.

49ers are currently the 6th best in the league at points per possession (2.63). That's simply amazing considering we've only gotten one turnover in 3 games and our average field position is also the 8th worst in the league. As slow as the offense has been these past two games, they still show up when they need to. I actually have faith in the offense to put points on the board, just wish we'd do something in the first half. We could be making most games like the Detroit game.

Defense is middle of the pack currently. We could be much better, but until we start causing some turnovers, our defense will continue to be a sieve at times and "bend but don't break" at other times. They're highly inconsistent currently, and a large part of that is due to injuries, and a small part of that is due to a new DC.

It's still early yet. Seattle's team outside of the skill positions is pretty meh. Russell will always give them a chance, but if we take care of business on Sunday, Seattle falls to 1-3, and we stay right in the thick of things with Arizona and Los Angeles, especially considering one of them will be getting a big fat L this week. Assuming LA wins and we win, division will look like this after week 4:

1. LA 4-0
2. SF 3-1 (1-0 in div)
3. AZ 3-1 (0-1 in div)
4. SEA 1-3

I'd have more confidence if we still had Saleh. because even with all the injuries we had last year on defense, we still had a top defense.

This year, we are more healthy than last so far, but yet we still don't have a pass rush with our best pass rushers out there and that's concerning to me.

Part of that is maybe Bosa ain't 100% yet or he's holding back with that concern in his head. i don't know. or yea it could be that Ryans is still learning.

Usually our defense bails us out, but this year it has been inconsistent at times.

But to make our DB's not look so bad, we need our pass rush to be better.

There's a pretty simple reason why this game is a bad match-up for us: Seattle's greatest strength (Wilson, DK,
and Lockett) will go up against our greatest weakness (secondary). I expect an ugly loss unless we control the clock with the ground game. And even then I expect Seattle to connect on some big shots downfield when they have the ball.

My prediction:

SeaChickens: 30
49ers: 17

NOTE TO DEMECO:

If you can't rush and you can't cover, might not want to play too much man to man.

Otherwise, Russ be runnin' and droppin' bombs all over da field!

31-23 Seattle.

Wilson is going to shred us like shredder

49ers 2-2

Dunno. I'm just not ready to freak out yet.

Get off to a better start, get Kittle more involved, run the ball better. Boom, offense fixed. Those are our strengths as an offense and should be fixable if they focus. And we've been excellent at avoiding penalties on offense. Only one I can recall was Jimmy's intentional grounding against Detroit.

Defensively my gripe is with the line. We've spent way too much to be getting gashed by the run and not getting pass pressure. Our corners suck, ok, but there's no excuse for all of our first round talent on the line to be getting stonewalled the way they are. We don't have first rounders all over the secondary so the line needs to step up.

Our defense isn't going to be a strength so our offense has to step up. If we can avoid going the first 1/3 of the game without scoring we have a fine chance of winning.

If we were in the NFC East, NFC North, or AFC South I would feel better about our team working out the kinks throughout the season. Unfortunately we do not have the luxury for demeco to figure out our defense, kyle to figure out the QB situation, and everything in-between on-the-fly. We are in the most competitive and progressive division. It's always advancing as each team gets better. I feel like we are behind the 8-ball. Seattle dropped 2 games, but you know they will bounce back. Do we have that capability in other divisions, sure. But not this one. We are really going to see how good of a coach Shanny is the next 2 weeks. Our D is hemorrhaging and we're 1 Jimmy G pick from starting a rookie.

Oh please god work out

Seahawks are on the ropes, desperate for a win, with Wilson/Metcalf/Lockett against a 49ers team that can't stop the pass and couldn't get to a much less mobile Rodgers behind a bad o-line?

Can't see any way SF wins this. This team has struggled in each game and should have lost to Philly.

30-17 Seattle

Originally posted by Antix:
Dunno. I'm just not ready to freak out yet.

Get off to a better start, get Kittle more involved, run the ball better. Boom, offense fixed. Those are our strengths as an offense and should be fixable if they focus. And we've been excellent at avoiding penalties on offense. Only one I can recall was Jimmy's intentional grounding against Detroit.

Defensively my gripe is with the line. We've spent way too much to be getting gashed by the run and not getting pass pressure. Our corners suck, ok, but there's no excuse for all of our first round talent on the line to be getting stonewalled the way they are. We don't have first rounders all over the secondary so the line needs to step up.

Our defense isn't going to be a strength so our offense has to step up. If we can avoid going the first 1/3 of the game without scoring we have a fine chance of winning.

good post

Going to be close high scoring game. Seahawks defense not so good. Niners 27-24

Originally posted by BYisGod:
There's a pretty simple reason why this game is a bad match-up for us: Seattle's greatest strength (Wilson, DK,
and Lockett) will go up against our greatest weakness (secondary). I expect an ugly loss unless we control the clock with the ground game. And even then I expect Seattle to connect on some big shots downfield when they have the ball.

My prediction:

SeaChickens: 30
49ers: 17

Ground game???Ground game?? Just come back from a trip from Mars???? Kyle's running scheme(that Jimmy is a cog in) is completely shorted out now. You can't create a pass heavy plan around a 2td, 1 pick per game, double/triple ball slapping, pop gun arm. We aren't beating any of these NFC west teams without prob 4 air td's plus 2 ground td's per game minimum threshold to even complete with the Rams. Need 30 plus against the Cards and Chickens. Jimmy is just fine in the normal scheme but now we have Sermon back there. He seems to need 3.5 seconds to hit a hole. If we had a totally healthy D then 20-24 points per game might work. We're screwed.

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by BYisGod:
There's a pretty simple reason why this game is a bad match-up for us: Seattle's greatest strength (Wilson, DK,
and Lockett) will go up against our greatest weakness (secondary). I expect an ugly loss unless we control the clock with the ground game. And even then I expect Seattle to connect on some big shots downfield when they have the ball.

My prediction:

SeaChickens: 30
49ers: 17

Ground game???Ground game?? Just come back from a trip from Mars???? Kyle's running scheme(that Jimmy is a cog in) is completely shorted out now. You can't create a pass heavy plan around a 2td, 1 pick per game, double/triple ball slapping, pop gun arm. We aren't beating any of these NFC west teams without prob 4 air td's plus 2 ground td's per game minimum threshold to even complete with the Rams. Need 30 plus against the Cards and Chickens. Jimmy is just fine in the normal scheme but now we have Sermon back there. He seems to need 3.5 seconds to hit a hole. If we had a totally healthy then 20-24 points per game might work. We're screwed.

^ This.

Niners don't look like they can currently beat anybody with how they're playing. It's not just the Packers game, they were getting manhandled by Philly for the whole first half and should have lost that game.

Originally posted by 91til:

Originally posted by Antix:
Dunno. I'm just not ready to freak out yet.

Get off to a better start, get Kittle more involved, run the ball better. Boom, offense fixed. Those are our strengths as an offense and should be fixable if they focus. And we've been excellent at avoiding penalties on offense. Only one I can recall was Jimmy's intentional grounding against Detroit.

Defensively my gripe is with the line. We've spent way too much to be getting gashed by the run and not getting pass pressure. Our corners suck, ok, but there's no excuse for all of our first round talent on the line to be getting stonewalled the way they are. We don't have first rounders all over the secondary so the line needs to step up.

Our defense isn't going to be a strength so our offense has to step up. If we can avoid going the first 1/3 of the game without scoring we have a fine chance of winning.

good post

So I've said this in the past in regards to Jimmy and everyone who says when Jimmy plays we normally win etc.

Well my past and current response to that has been, well he's had a good defense around him that's helped out a lot.

Now, since our defense is kind of our weak spot at the moment, I wonder how many games he can win for us without our defense making stops or turnovers.

That means we have to rely on Jimmy more to put up more points and keep up with any gun slinger offenses and I just don't think Jimmy can do that consistently.

3 and outs every drive is going to tire out an already banged up and weak defense

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Going to be close high scoring game. Seahawks defense not so good. Niners 27-24

This, our turn to win with a FG at the end.

Originally posted by KittleMeThis:

Originally posted by 91til:

Originally posted by Antix:
Dunno. I'm just not ready to freak out yet.

Get off to a better start, get Kittle more involved, run the ball better. Boom, offense fixed. Those are our strengths as an offense and should be fixable if they focus. And we've been excellent at avoiding penalties on offense. Only one I can recall was Jimmy's intentional grounding against Detroit.

Defensively my gripe is with the line. We've spent way too much to be getting gashed by the run and not getting pass pressure. Our corners suck, ok, but there's no excuse for all of our first round talent on the line to be getting stonewalled the way they are. We don't have first rounders all over the secondary so the line needs to step up.

Our defense isn't going to be a strength so our offense has to step up. If we can avoid going the first 1/3 of the game without scoring we have a fine chance of winning.

good post

So I've said this in the past in regards to Jimmy and everyone who says when Jimmy plays we normally win etc.

Well my past and current response to that has been, well he's had a good defense around him that's helped out a lot.

Now, since our defense is kind of our weak spot at the moment, I wonder how many games he can win for us without our defense making stops or turnovers.

That means we have to rely on Jimmy more to put up more points and keep up with any gun slinger offenses and I just don't think Jimmy can do that consistently.

3 and outs every drive is going to tire out an already banged up and weak defense

In game that is now CRITICAL. Cannot repeatedly go 3 and out. Every 3d and long Trey in. Jimmy is pretty good at 3d down conversations but would bet the farm that not the case on 3d and long. In the NFL nobody really is but Trey's athleticism would if even a little, increase the odds. 3 and outs have to be cut down significantly, somehow.

49ers d puts in the effort they put in the first 2 weeks and win 41 -24