⛏ SF 49ers at Arizona Cardinals Pregame Thread - 2021 Season Wk 5

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
A win on Sunday will give the season some life going into a much needed bye.

This is just a thot, but instead of adding a 17th game this yr, what really would have been smart would have been to add a second bye and make the season 15 games…give these huge powerful athletes, some more time to heal and rest from an incredibly hard season. But no, NFL goes opposite direction and adds a 17th game. Bad decision.

Injuries have scuttled a number of teams once again this yr, it isn't just us, it's a lot of teams. Yes, we have a 7 yr record now of losing more players to injury during the yr than anyone else, but yet nobody can come up with giving these guys an extra blow? That isn't thinking out of the box, that is thinking about ways to mitigate all the injury across the league.

Oh, and do away wiht the dumb idea of going easy on OTAs, TCs and PS practices. Like Joe Staley said you gotta get used to what is going to come in the season and that is a lot of hard hits…"Make a callous" i believe is what Joe was quoted as.

It would be better for the athletes and the overall game, but that's asking a multi billion dollar industry to do something that would make them less money and not more.

Yup, i know, and that is what drives the sport…$$$. So it will never happen. Sometime, somewhere, tho, the NFL is going to have to do something about the injuries skyrocketing.

Originally posted by ElDannMann:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
A win on Sunday will give the season some life going into a much needed bye.

This is just a thot, but instead of adding a 17th game this yr, what really would have been smart would have been to add a second bye and make the season 15 games…give these huge powerful athletes, some more time to heal and rest from an incredibly hard season. But no, NFL goes opposite direction and adds a 17th game. Bad decision.

Injuries have scuttled a number of teams once again this yr, it isn't just us, it's a lot of teams. Yes, we have a 7 yr record now of losing more players to injury during the yr than anyone else, but yet nobody can come up with giving these guys an extra blow? That isn't thinking out of the box, that is thinking about ways to mitigate all the injury across the league.

Oh, and do away wiht the dumb idea of going easy on OTAs, TCs and PS practices. Like Joe Staley said you gotta get used to what is going to come in the season and that is a lot of hard hits…"Make a callous" i believe is what Joe was quoted as.

I always had the outside idea of making an 18-game regular season with 2 bye weeks, so 20-weeks long. But more importantly, players can only play a max of 16 games per regular season (with an exception to kickers, punters and long snappers) making backup positions all the more important. You have to have a good backup QB because he'll have to start 2 games per season.

I understand this is a fantasy world thing of mine, but it creates so much more strategy. What two games a year do the Buccaneers decide to Brady won't suit up? Or if you have an injury prone player, you play him every game until he ultimately gets injured, forcing him out for the next two games or whatever.

It's a win-win. The NFL and the fans gets their 18-game season. The NFLPA and the players don't get more games. Maybe the only losers would be buying that game to go see Tom Brady play, but they decide not to suit him up that game and you're forced to watch Blaine Gabbers or Kyle Trask, lol.

Talk about thinking out of the box… i love it. Truly, a fascinating idea. But for obvious reasons, just like mine above, it won't sail because of $$$, the one thing that drives the sport.

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
D-Line overrated? That's interesting. Losing RBs I'll agree with though - that's what make this offense a success. Just my thoughts

yes over rated... we have the best depth in the nfl,, we can not stop the run for s**t. and even if we rush the passer. the mobile quarterbacks we face like this week burn our ass.. and then you have a dc who decides its a nice idea to have linebackers cover wide outs. all goes back to trading buck and then drafting a guy with bad knees that was sposed to take over...... that started this teams descent in my opinion,,, lynch

I got to see the entire Rams/AZ game as central coastal CA is now firmly RAMS, LAKERS, DODGERS. We didn't even have radio coverage here of our game. But what i did see was Kyler take the LA defense and make a mockery of it. Rarely did Donald get a sniff of Kyler. And the DEs made the very same mistake we have made in times past of streaking in for Kyler and he escapes. Why LA didn't try and contain, who knows. But they didn't. And then once Kyler breaks contain, he' s gone. Nobody in this league is going to catch him.

Which brings up Sun. Hopefully Demeco is planning to pen Kyler in and contain him. Because once he gets around your DEs, it is over. Either huge pass play or huge running play. I hope i know what i see on Sun…but will believe it WHEN i see it. No sacks, just contain.

one other thing…the AZ D is for real. Their big guy, is unstoppable. I think he lines up at left DE, but he also lines up as DT. So it's either McG or Mack who gets him and nobody on LA's OL could contain him. Hope kyle has schemed around that.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I got to see the entire Rams/AZ game as central coastal CA is now firmly RAMS, LAKERS, DODGERS. We didn't even have radio coverage here of our game. But what i did see was Kyler take the LA defense and make a mockery of it. Rarely did Donald get a sniff of Kyler. And the DEs made the very same mistake we have made in times past of streaking in for Kyler and he escapes. Why LA didn't try and contain, who knows. But they didn't. And then once Kyler breaks contain, he' s gone. Nobody in this league is going to catch him.

Which brings up Sun. Hopefully Demeco is planning to pen Kyler in and contain him. Because once he gets around your DEs, it is over. Either huge pass play or huge running play. I hope i know what i see on Sun…but will believe it WHEN i see it. No sacks, just contain.

This is specifically why we need Kinlaw to step up. Only way to get to Murray is to constrict the pocket around him, leaving him nowhere to run.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
D-Line overrated? That's interesting. Losing RBs I'll agree with though - that's what make this offense a success. Just my thoughts

yes over rated... we have the best depth in the nfl,, we can not stop the run for s**t. and even if we rush the passer. the mobile quarterbacks we face like this week burn our ass.. and then you have a dc who decides its a nice idea to have linebackers cover wide outs. all goes back to trading buck and then drafting a guy with bad knees that was sposed to take over...... that started this teams descent in my opinion,,, lynch

Not sure the depth is the best but so be it. I'm not so upset with getting rid of Buck, not sure how other contracts would've gone. The Kinlaw pick is frustrating. I'd say give the DC a chance to learn. Not sure how to slow down Murray that's for sure.

Start lance and take the L if the team don't perform well. Would rather have him start getting used to the ball game.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
A win on Sunday will give the season some life going into a much needed bye.

This is just a thot, but instead of adding a 17th game this yr, what really would have been smart would have been to add a second bye and make the season 15 games…give these huge powerful athletes, some more time to heal and rest from an incredibly hard season. But no, NFL goes opposite direction and adds a 17th game. Bad decision.

Injuries have scuttled a number of teams once again this yr, it isn't just us, it's a lot of teams. Yes, we have a 7 yr record now of losing more players to injury during the yr than anyone else, but yet nobody can come up with giving these guys an extra blow? That isn't thinking out of the box, that is thinking about ways to mitigate all the injury across the league.

Oh, and do away wiht the dumb idea of going easy on OTAs, TCs and PS practices. Like Joe Staley said you gotta get used to what is going to come in the season and that is a lot of hard hits…"Make a callous" i believe is what Joe was quoted as.

It would be better for the athletes and the overall game, but that's asking a multi billion dollar industry to do something that would make them less money and not more.

Yup, i know, and that is what drives the sport…$$$. So it will never happen. Sometime, somewhere, tho, the NFL is going to have to do something about the injuries skyrocketing.

here is a thought... let these babies practice with full pads and have 2 a days like back in the 70s, 80s and 90s.. These "athletes" are so brittle these days because they are so valuable you do not want to scratch them... like give me a damn break... PRACTICE HARD, HIT THE QB, TACKLE IN PRACTICE.... That is 100% the reason for all the injuries... Body isnt used to getting smacked around. This goes for College players as well so we know what we have in the pros...

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I got to see the entire Rams/AZ game as central coastal CA is now firmly RAMS, LAKERS, DODGERS. We didn't even have radio coverage here of our game. But what i did see was Kyler take the LA defense and make a mockery of it. Rarely did Donald get a sniff of Kyler. And the DEs made the very same mistake we have made in times past of streaking in for Kyler and he escapes. Why LA didn't try and contain, who knows. But they didn't. And then once Kyler breaks contain, he' s gone. Nobody in this league is going to catch him.

Which brings up Sun. Hopefully Demeco is planning to pen Kyler in and contain him. Because once he gets around your DEs, it is over. Either huge pass play or huge running play. I hope i know what i see on Sun…but will believe it WHEN i see it. No sacks, just contain.

one other thing…the AZ D is for real. Their big guy, is unstoppable. I think he lines up at left DE, but he also lines up as DT. So it's either McG or Mack who gets him and nobody on LA's OL could contain him. Hope kyle has schemed around that.

What big guy? AZ D doesn't seem too crazy, middle of the road in many categories, one of the worst run defenses.

They are top 10 in PPG though so we need to run the ball & no turnovers!

Originally posted by NCommand:

George Kittle, Trent Williams, Samson Ebukam, and K'Waun Williams will all practice today.

Shanahan said it took him a couple of plays to realize Kittle was out there after the scary fall last game. "He was fortunate."

— Niners Nation (@NinersNation) October 6, 2021

Who cares this team ain't worth a damn. Just go on IR and save your careers. This coach and FO don't give a damn, why should we?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I got to see the entire Rams/AZ game as central coastal CA is now firmly RAMS, LAKERS, DODGERS. We didn't even have radio coverage here of our game. But what i did see was Kyler take the LA defense and make a mockery of it. Rarely did Donald get a sniff of Kyler. And the DEs made the very same mistake we have made in times past of streaking in for Kyler and he escapes. Why LA didn't try and contain, who knows. But they didn't. And then once Kyler breaks contain, he' s gone. Nobody in this league is going to catch him.

Which brings up Sun. Hopefully Demeco is planning to pen Kyler in and contain him. Because once he gets around your DEs, it is over. Either huge pass play or huge running play. I hope i know what i see on Sun…but will believe it WHEN i see it. No sacks, just contain.

one other thing…the AZ D is for real. Their big guy, is unstoppable. I think he lines up at left DE, but he also lines up as DT. So it's either McG or Mack who gets him and nobody on LA's OL could contain him. Hope kyle has schemed around that.

From the very start Lynch and Shanahan have built the team around the idea of a dominant pass rush because of having guys like Wilson and Murray in the Division. And now they have Stafford who isn't anywhere near as elusive as those two but can throw the ball a mile. The pass rush was supposed to balance the scales by limiting the other team passing game and allowing Kyle to run the ball down their throats and keep opposing offenses off the field. Unfortunately due to injury and whatever other issues there may be those guys aren't getting home,

They did great in the first half against but kind of lost their mojo in the second half. They destroyed Aaron Rodgers in their games over the last couple of years but were hardly a factor at all in the most recent game, which allowed Rodgers to beat them in the last minute. I think it could be a long afternoon if they aren't able to get after Murray. Especially if Lance has to start or if Jimmy is playing hurt. The only advantage I see is if Kyle is able to dial up some shots down the field that Lance is able to hit. His passing percentage isn't great and his efficiency in running the offense is probably still lacking but of the running game can get untracked and he can hit a couple of long balls the team might find a way to get it done. It will all start with the defensive line though. Those guys have got to come ready to play.

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by NCommand:

George Kittle, Trent Williams, Samson Ebukam, and K'Waun Williams will all practice today.

Shanahan said it took him a couple of plays to realize Kittle was out there after the scary fall last game. "He was fortunate."

— Niners Nation (@NinersNation) October 6, 2021

Who cares this team ain't worth a damn. Just go on IR and save your careers. This coach and FO don't give a damn, why should we?

https://www.pewterreport.com/forums/ Is the forum you're looking for

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by NCommand:

George Kittle, Trent Williams, Samson Ebukam, and K'Waun Williams will all practice today.

Shanahan said it took him a couple of plays to realize Kittle was out there after the scary fall last game. "He was fortunate."

— Niners Nation (@NinersNation) October 6, 2021

Who cares this team ain't worth a damn. Just go on IR and save your careers. This coach and FO don't give a damn, why should we?

Lol

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Originally posted by SFTifoso:

Originally posted by NCommand:

George Kittle, Trent Williams, Samson Ebukam, and K'Waun Williams will all practice today.

Shanahan said it took him a couple of plays to realize Kittle was out there after the scary fall last game. "He was fortunate."

— Niners Nation (@NinersNation) October 6, 2021

Who cares this team ain't worth a damn. Just go on IR and save your careers. This coach and FO don't give a damn, why should we?

Lol

He's lost all hope. lol