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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at ARIZONA CARDINALS - 2021 Game 5

Originally posted by Krangthebrain:
Greetings, Cardinals fan here. Just going to say I'm nervous about this game because the Cardinals have a long history of losing games they should win.

And I do think the Cardinals are the better team overall. I thought so before the season started and I was laughing at all the media talking heads that had the Cardinals as the 4th best team in the NFC West. Why? The Cardinals have a really good QB and a bunch of weapons at his disposal. That's a recipe for success in the NFL.

I picked the Niners to be 4th in the NFC West because I don't believe in Jimmy and the Niners have a roster of good players made out of paper mache. The one thing I can depend every year recently is that the Niners will lose 4-5 key players for a good chunk of the season and as we are seeing, this is happening again.

Why do I think that the Niners will win though? The Cardinals have struggled to stop the run. Part of that is that they have sold out to stop the pass in most games. Last week against the Rams they ran a lot of 2 down lineman looks. That's not a lot of beef to stop the run and the Rams go a ton of rushing yards against that look. The Cardinals have also struggled against the stretch zone runs and I know Shanahan is going to exploit that. Additionally Byron Murphy Jr, who has looked like a top cover corner is going to miss the game and rookie CB Marco Wilson who has played very well might as miss the game as well. RB Chase Edmonds is questionable, though I'm not that concerned because the Cardinals don't really rely on RBs that much anyway and they have options to fill his spot.

I watched tape of Lance last week and I wasn't impressed. Not even a little bit. He's going to take a lot of time to adjust to the NFL game. WIth that said, I think the Niners need to commit to him now, because he will improve more by playing than he will by sitting. It will be a long season for the Niners, but he has tools to develop and the Niners need to figure out quickly if he is the guy. I think the smartest thing the Cardinals have done in the past few years was how they handled the drafting of Rosen and the subsequent drafting of Murray. Any team who has gone through the QB wilderness of not having a good QB knows that your team should go hard after a top guy and spend whatever it takes to get a franchise guy.

Murray is now in his 3rd year and he is starting to play really well. Don't let the highlights fool you, Murray is actually the highest rated QB in the league from the pocket and is completing 80% of his passes from the pocket. His mechanics have improved dramatically and he is starting to go through his progressions and check into better plays at the line of scrimmage.

But I think the Cardinals are going to blow this one. I see the Niners winning by 10.

Hey . . . greetings!

The Niners win by 10 in their opponents house, with crap at QB, their reliable pass receiving threat on the bench, and the best QB in the league on the other side?

How does that even make sense?

But thanks anyway.
  • Baldie
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
I believe, collectively with Trey, we can easily surpass that number. I think with Trey's legs and big arm it could be the key to opening up the run game.

Shanahan should give him a few keepers early on combined with a couple playaction bootleg plays to hopefully get those pass rushers gassed and to open up the middle of the field more. AZ's biggest threat on defense is their pass rush. The key to the game on offense is to find ways to eliminate that one strength and then exploit their weakness.

My dilemma right now. Should I start Sermon in fantasy at Flex over Marvin Jones Jr.
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by Jubwub88:
My draft crush pitts is fcking killing it.

Dude thought he was gonna be drafted by the 9ers.
  • Baldie
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
My draft crush pitts is fcking killing it.

Dude thought he was gonna be drafted by the 9ers.

He would have been a weapon today with Kittle out.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's simply giving you a veteran player take at this stage of the season. Veterans aren't stupid. Trey could pull this off but they still will know it might not be because he's ready to carry the game plan every week going forward. They also know things will be limited and learning = mistakes. Mistakes cost you games.

If you disagree with that, cool.

It's still a win-win for me because he's getting real game experience here and tape and an opportunity to grow.

Dude again no vet signed a massive contract because it gave them a chance to play with Jimmy G…davis is a dummy.

Jimmy makes the same damn mistakes he made since say one…let's stop acting like he's some pro-bowl caliber QB.

I don't think Lance is gonna play great today, there's no reason why he should imo. Dude has got next to nothing in development and hasn't played real football since 2019. Still if he goes out and plays good football, you can't just go back to lame duck Jimmy just because.

Man that locker room is gonna be pissed to play with Lance lol

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Originally posted by Krangthebrain:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Hey . . . greetings!

The Niners win by 10 in their opponents house, with crap at QB, their reliable pass receiving threat on the bench, and the best QB in the league on the other side?

How does that even make sense?

But thanks anyway.

Haha. I'm a long time Cardinals fan. They tend to blow games they should win and I expect it.

Don't see that happening today...LoL. I'll s**t my pants if SF wins today, on purpose to.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's simply giving you a veteran player take at this stage of the season. Veterans aren't stupid. Trey could pull this off but they still will know it might not be because he's ready to carry the game plan every week going forward. They also know things will be limited and learning = mistakes. Mistakes cost you games.

If you disagree with that, cool.

It's still a win-win for me because he's getting real game experience here and tape and an opportunity to grow.

Dude again no vet signed a massive contract because it gave them a chance to play with Jimmy G…davis is a dummy.

Jimmy makes the same damn mistakes he made since say one…let's stop acting like he's some pro-bowl caliber QB.

I don't think Lance is gonna play great today, there's no reason why he should imo. Dude has got next to nothing in development and hasn't played real football since 2019. Still if he goes out and plays good football, you can't just go back to lame duck Jimmy just because.

Man that locker room is gonna be pissed to play with Lance lol


Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
My draft crush pitts is fcking killing it.

Dude thought he was gonna be drafted by the 9ers.

He would have been a weapon today with Kittle out.

And Sudfeld at QB!
Originally posted by Krangthebrain:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Hey . . . greetings!

The Niners win by 10 in their opponents house, with crap at QB, their reliable pass receiving threat on the bench, and the best QB in the league on the other side?

How does that even make sense?

But thanks anyway.

Haha. I'm a long time Cardinals fan. They tend to blow games they should win and I expect it.

Yea. You're right. Its usually against the Niners also. Its almost like Kyle has Kingsbury's number.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's simply giving you a veteran player take at this stage of the season. Veterans aren't stupid. Trey could pull this off but they still will know it might not be because he's ready to carry the game plan every week going forward. They also know things will be limited and learning = mistakes. Mistakes cost you games.

If you disagree with that, cool.

It's still a win-win for me because he's getting real game experience here and tape and an opportunity to grow.

Dude again no vet signed a massive contract because it gave them a chance to play with Jimmy G…davis is a dummy.

Jimmy makes the same damn mistakes he made since say one…let's stop acting like he's some pro-bowl caliber QB.

I don't think Lance is gonna play great today, there's no reason why he should imo. Dude has got next to nothing in development and hasn't played real football since 2019. Still if he goes out and plays good football, you can't just go back to lame duck Jimmy just because.

Man that locker room is gonna be pissed to play with Lance lol



Man . . . but don't they just HATE playing with Lance!
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's simply giving you a veteran player take at this stage of the season. Veterans aren't stupid. Trey could pull this off but they still will know it might not be because he's ready to carry the game plan every week going forward. They also know things will be limited and learning = mistakes. Mistakes cost you games.

If you disagree with that, cool.

It's still a win-win for me because he's getting real game experience here and tape and an opportunity to grow.

Dude again no vet signed a massive contract because it gave them a chance to play with Jimmy G…davis is a dummy.

Jimmy makes the same damn mistakes he made since say one…let's stop acting like he's some pro-bowl caliber QB.

I don't think Lance is gonna play great today, there's no reason why he should imo. Dude has got next to nothing in development and hasn't played real football since 2019. Still if he goes out and plays good football, you can't just go back to lame duck Jimmy just because.

Man that locker room is gonna be pissed to play with Lance lol


Tip to tip 😂😂
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
He's simply giving you a veteran player take at this stage of the season. Veterans aren't stupid. Trey could pull this off but they still will know it might not be because he's ready to carry the game plan every week going forward. They also know things will be limited and learning = mistakes. Mistakes cost you games.

If you disagree with that, cool.

It's still a win-win for me because he's getting real game experience here and tape and an opportunity to grow.

Dude again no vet signed a massive contract because it gave them a chance to play with Jimmy G…davis is a dummy.

Jimmy makes the same damn mistakes he made since say one…let's stop acting like he's some pro-bowl caliber QB.

I don't think Lance is gonna play great today, there's no reason why he should imo. Dude has got next to nothing in development and hasn't played real football since 2019. Still if he goes out and plays good football, you can't just go back to lame duck Jimmy just because.

Man that locker room is gonna be pissed to play with Lance lol


Let's f**king go 49ers!
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Krangthebrain:
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Hey . . . greetings!

The Niners win by 10 in their opponents house, with crap at QB, their reliable pass receiving threat on the bench, and the best QB in the league on the other side?

How does that even make sense?

But thanks anyway.

Haha. I'm a long time Cardinals fan. They tend to blow games they should win and I expect it.

Yea. You're right. Its usually against the Niners also. Its almost like Kyle has Kingsbury's number.

Predicted score is 28-22 Cardinals. That would be something if the Niners can keep it that close.
we could've had pitts this year, sucked and drafted a qb next year but everyone saw somthing In lance.

I don't see it but I hope y'all right. Pitts,waddle, chase all killing it. Only thing that will make it worth is if he plays on herberts level
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dude thought he was gonna be drafted by the 9ers.

It's okay Kyle would have made him block half the time and dink and dunked with him on the field because of the 85% theory

seriously it's a good thing we didn't draft Allen/Watson/Mahomes because kyle (according to some, not you) would have just made them game mangers because he doesn't use players skills sets to the fullest…

#85%rule
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