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Is it better to play a rookie QB or sit him on the bench?

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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by frenchtoast:
BS. Jerry Rice didn't sit. Bill would not have cancelled camp. He would have spent that time mentoring Trey and developing the skills he knew would be necessary. Shanahan raved about him and told of all the plays he designed for him. WHERE ARE THEY? Shanahan is afraid because he has no skillset that would enable him to know how to develop a rookie QB with Trey's talent. Throwing a football across the street into a pizza oven doesn't quality..You learn much more by DOING, than watching...

One has to learn how to walk before they can run.

Can't believe we drafted a QB who still crawls.

I think he showed up and disappointed them pretty quick. It went from them being excited to work him in and even they said they may run a two qb system……to get Jimmy on the field no matter what, even after sub par performances from JG. When he was forced to start, it's like Kyle thought he had to use him like Tim Tebow to move the ball


For real! That entire post is so shallow and short sighted.
Both.

Did the kid play a lot of college ball with and against top talent?
Let the Rook Cook!

Did the kid play 4 games at Podunk State?
Should prob sit.
Originally posted by SoCold:
Both.

Did the kid play a lot of college ball with and against top talent?
Let the Rook Cook!

Did the kid play 4 games at Podunk State?
Should prob sit.

I think you're right. Steve Young will always side to the, 'play the young guy" because he believes in a trial by fire, talent will show no matter what and if they're really good, you'll never be able to hold them back. But, Steve was also wired differently than 99.999% of the population. That insanely confident, competitive but still able to learn and grow. I mean, this was the guy who would follow Mike Holmgren off the field yelling at him about why isn't he starting over Joe Freaking Montana.

Alex was pushing back on him on Monday night football because Alex experienced getting thrown under the bus as a super young guy in SF. Young got thrown under the bus in 1991 when he had some playing time with Tampa and the LA Express and knew he was going to be a good player and thought he should be starting over Joe, Alex didn't have that. It's also been talked about how Alex was super smart but had to have a firm grasp of every single detail or he really struggled operating and was tossed out without that knowledge and it took him a while to overcome that. It's going to come down to, how is Trey wired and if the luxury to not play the rookie is there, go for it.
I get that there is a possibility of breaking a QB, but I would rather know sooner if I don't have a NFL QB and not just a NFL QB, but a leader.

Throwing a QB into the fire isn't about the production he shows. It's about the leadership he shows. During Alex's first 3 years, he always showed that he was a leader. THAT is all a QB needs to show in the beginning. One that is not a leader, will show you right away. Don't need to waste 2 or 3 years to find that out.
[ Edited by Joecool on Nov 5, 2021 at 12:26 PM ]
Simply put, until an OC can implement a professional game plan with only minor limitations, he should sit. And that should factor in QB mechanics, foot work, cadence, 2-minute drill, clock management, etc.

That could vary wildly no matter the college experience.

IMHO, of course.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
For real! That entire post is so shallow and short sighted.

usually is always full of undertones of wanting a different QB
They shouldn't start until they have at least 3 years of NFL starting experience.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Both.

Did the kid play a lot of college ball with and against top talent?
Let the Rook Cook!

Did the kid play 4 games at Podunk State?
Should prob sit.

I think you're right. Steve Young will always side to the, 'play the young guy" because he believes in a trial by fire, talent will show no matter what and if they're really good, you'll never be able to hold them back. But, Steve was also wired differently than 99.999% of the population. That insanely confident, competitive but still able to learn and grow. I mean, this was the guy who would follow Mike Holmgren off the field yelling at him about why isn't he starting over Joe Freaking Montana.

Alex was pushing back on him on Monday night football because Alex experienced getting thrown under the bus as a super young guy in SF. Young got thrown under the bus in 1991 when he had some playing time with Tampa and the LA Express and knew he was going to be a good player and thought he should be starting over Joe, Alex didn't have that. It's also been talked about how Alex was super smart but had to have a firm grasp of every single detail or he really struggled operating and was tossed out without that knowledge and it took him a while to overcome that. It's going to come down to, how is Trey wired and if the luxury to not play the rookie is there, go for it.

I think it's easy to read between the lines and see that Trey is wired to deal with trial by fire.

Deebo after Trey throws a terrible sailed interception "Take it easy rook it'll come"
Trey "I got this"

Trent Williams "Trey has an Aura about him that makes you believe".

I'm not saying that he is screaming at the coaches to start him, he's too respectful and grounded for that, but I guarantee that he believes he's better, and that he's confident enough to deal with adversity.

It's a small sample size but we've already seen it.

Jimmy played well last week so the conversation is moot for now.

However I agree with most posters, it depends on the rookie and the team situation. I think we had both, but we've over complicated matters.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
They shouldn't start until they have at least 3 years of NFL starting experience.

"All internship applicants must have 3 years on the field experience"
I think Jordan Love will be interesting in the course of this discussion. He clearly wasn't ready last year, and wasn't even activated most weeks. Now he's had over a year learning behind one of the best to do it.

Let's see how he looks this week.
Depends on the player, depends on the situation.

It's a wonder to me that Alex Smith survived his first couple years with us, but Alex is quite possibly one of the most mentally tough players in NFL history.
it should be prohibiterd for rookie quarterbacks to play their first season after being drafted by NFLPA labor agreement.. They should not count against the roster.
If you have a competent coach and a good O-line you should play the mofo since day 1.
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
If you have a competent coach and a good O-line you should play the mofo since day 1.

Yeah, it depends on the supporting cast - if you can protect him there's no reason he can't start from day one.
If a QB is good enough to play HE WILL PLAY. The fact that he doesn't and doesn't even get many looks tells you a lot.
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