After this week, I truly believe coaching is the problem.

Originally posted by dwy621:
No clue why he didn't go for 2 to make it a 2 score game. Shanahan needs to get his head in the game.

That is an example of his primary problem - game management.

Such a weird season. Expectations through the roof, including myself. But it begins to unravel beginning with injuries and disappointing efforts. I think they need to reevaluate and start from zero. Not a rebuilding but a re-evaluation and reset of what they have on the team.

Kyle is not a good head coach. 1 playoff year out of 5 years is unacceptable. Fire him.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dwy621:
No clue why he didn't go for 2 to make it a 2 score game. Shanahan needs to get his head in the game.

That is an example of his primary problem - game management.

What has a better outcome/higher chance of success after scoring 3 touchdowns?
1) Scoring 3 two point conversations
2) Going down the field est 40-50 yard and kicking FG

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Niners418:
The biggest issue is our front office decision making and terrible drafting track record.

Which Shanahan is leading.

I agree but am confused as to why there is such a loud vocal minority that puts talent selection and acquisition on GM Lynch. We were told that Lynch is in charge of the 90 and Kyle is in charge of the final 45. Well, that means that kyle is the one making the final decisions on trades, draft picks, FAs, and Re-signings. Why does Lynch seemingly always end up being the bad guy when it is kyle with the final say? As JCool notes above, FO making decisions are Kyle's decisions for the 45, not JL. What is so hard to understand about that?

And , like Mike Holmgren , when he went to SEA as both HC and GM, he coached great but drafted, FAed and traded horribly. The GM ship was taken away from him to concentrate on HCing. The same should happen here and by rights, we are losing good yrs of some great players here, so it seems time to remove Kyle as the final word on talent acquisition

and if there is ANY instance where paraag is involved in talent selection, that has to stop also. He is great on contracts but should be completely out of the loop on talent evaluation and choice, whether draft, FA or trades….also re-signings, as in the Buck fiasco. Does "well we could save about $4 mil/yr if we traded DeFo and drafted a starter DL. (Kinlaw). " Does that sound like kyle or JL…or an accountant.? But still, the sooner kyle is relieved of his talent acquisition final say, the better and more time him to work on HC, OCing , DCing and STing. Plenty of work for kyle there.

Originally posted by TheRambler:
Defensive coaching is a problem. Offense is more personnel.

So you giving Kyle and his Offensive staff a big fat Pass...oh wait Kyle is that you pretending to be webzoner? No Kyle is the problem if you cannot see that clear oh well. case in point Last week there were lots of roll outs and screen passes against the Bears yesterday not ONE DAMN rollout nor Screen passes.........WTF Kyle

Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:
Offense isn't that bad. Some dumb turnovers cost us. Defensively there is no excuse. Ryan's needs to go. He has decent talent and the Cards are lacking most of their talent today .

We do tend to get off to slow starts offensively.

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by derrickt:
Can't blame coaches for the fumbles today.

You can preach and stress ball security, especially after the first fumble. I never see KS jumping on guys to step it up. The most discipline I've seen during a game is him benching Norman,which was the right move.

The only other discipline we see is doghouse discipline,that from the outside at least, has no rhyme or reason.

That`s Kyle ego putting Wideouts in his personal doghouse just because they not playing the way he thinks they should BASED on him being a scrub wideout in college played or lack of playing

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by derrickt:
Can't blame coaches for the fumbles today.

You can preach and stress ball security, especially after the first fumble. I never see KS jumping on guys to step it up. The most discipline I've seen during a game is him benching Norman,which was the right move.

The only other discipline we see is doghouse discipline,that from the outside at least, has no rhyme or reason.

That`s Kyle ego putting Wideouts in his personal doghouse just because they not playing the way he thinks they should BASED on him being a scrub wideout in college played or lack of playing

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by derrickt:
Can't blame coaches for the fumbles today.

You can preach and stress ball security, especially after the first fumble. I never see KS jumping on guys to step it up. The most discipline I've seen during a game is him benching Norman,which was the right move.

The only other discipline we see is doghouse discipline,that from the outside at least, has no rhyme or reason.

That`s Kyle ego putting Wideouts in his personal doghouse just because they not playing the way he thinks they should BASED on him being a scrub wideout in college played or lack of playing

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Really looking forward to the jacksonville game. I want to see where this team stands.

The Jags will win that game book it!

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by derrickt:
Can't blame coaches for the fumbles today.

You can preach and stress ball security, especially after the first fumble. I never see KS jumping on guys to step it up. The most discipline I've seen during a game is him benching Norman,which was the right move.

The only other discipline we see is doghouse discipline,that from the outside at least, has no rhyme or reason.

That`s Kyle ego putting Wideouts in his personal doghouse just because they not playing the way he thinks they should BASED on him being a scrub wideout in college played or lack of playing

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Really looking forward to the jacksonville game. I want to see where this team stands.

The Jags will win that game book it!

Originally posted by Lukcy13asartd:
The entire franchise needs a refresh. 6 winning seasons since 2000, and the coaches with winning records were fired due to unable to get along with owners. What has been the consistency since Mooch being fired, is incompetent ownership, and moneyball Paraag. Hmm, maybe Paraag needs to be let go, because moneyball is not working

Harbaugh does not get contract extension with "he didnt win a Super Bowl" as excuse, but Shenanigans gets an extension? Sure, can say the Dorks learned lesson, but what has Shenanigans done lately? Lose, lose, and lose some more. He has shown multiple times he is a choker, and not good with game management. And, you have an ex 49er receiver on the Patriots talk about how weak our practices are. Heck, even Staley made comments about "practices not building a callus" as reason for injuries.

Its late, and I'm tired, but got to vent about frustrations. Wish Eddie D was still owner. Then you know Shenanigans would get his @$$ handed to him for this pathetic product are seeing. Ownership on down is the problem. Wish the Dorks would sell the team.

Me too and thats a good one "Shenanigans"

J Router your posting skills are about as bad as Shanny's coaching skills right now

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by dwy621:
No clue why he didn't go for 2 to make it a 2 score game. Shanahan needs to get his head in the game.

That is an example of his primary problem - game management.

This!

It's like he's stuck in one of those dreams where he's stuck can't move fast enough

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Niners418:
The biggest issue is our front office decision making and terrible drafting track record.

Which Shanahan is leading.

I agree but am confused as to why there is such a loud vocal minority that puts talent selection and acquisition on GM Lynch. We were told that Lynch is in charge of the 90 and Kyle is in charge of the final 45. Well, that means that kyle is the one making the final decisions on trades, draft picks, FAs, and Re-signings. Why does Lynch seemingly always end up being the bad guy when it is kyle with the final say? As JCool notes above, FO making decisions are Kyle's decisions for the 45, not JL. What is so hard to understand about that?

Everyone wanted Shanahan to be the coach... Lynch was out of left field. So you have "genius" Shanahan and "novice" Lynch. Its not surprising most are siding with the coach. Even if the evidence points to Shanahan being the issue.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I agree but am confused as to why there is such a loud vocal minority that puts talent selection and acquisition on GM Lynch. We were told that Lynch is in charge of the 90 and Kyle is in charge of the final 45. Well, that means that kyle is the one making the final decisions on trades, draft picks, FAs, and Re-signings. Why does Lynch seemingly always end up being the bad guy when it is kyle with the final say? As JCool notes above, FO making decisions are Kyle's decisions for the 45, not JL. What is so hard to understand about that?

And , like Mike Holmgren , when he went to SEA as both HC and GM, he coached great but drafted, FAed and traded horribly. The GM ship was taken away from him to concentrate on HCing. The same should happen here and by rights, we are losing good yrs of some great players here, so it seems time to remove Kyle as the final word on talent acquisition

and if there is ANY instance where paraag is involved in talent selection, that has to stop also. He is great on contracts but should be completely out of the loop on talent evaluation and choice, whether draft, FA or trades….also re-signings, as in the Buck fiasco. Does "well we could save about $4 mil/yr if we traded DeFo and drafted a starter DL. (Kinlaw). " Does that sound like kyle or JL…or an accountant.? But still, the sooner kyle is relieved of his talent acquisition final say, the better and more time him to work on HC, OCing , DCing and STing. Plenty of work for kyle there.

Solid post man!