Week 14 Cincinnati Bengals Coaches Film Analysis

Awesome

Juan Jennings becoming one of Jimmy's favorite maybe...

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:
JD

Great points about the pass protections. I think they can get better, just have to practice more on those combo stunts and blitzes. Mack is going to be key as he's the guy that sets the protections. But in general, if a team is going to blitz, the offense - by definition - is going to be inconsistent. Those are boom and bust defenses.

I guarantee you if the run game was dominating, those 5 man stunts/blitzes wouldn't work or wouldn't be called. So ironically, a better run game, will improve the pass protections.

Agreed. It's the predictable passing, esp. 3rd and longs, where we're usually effed in pass protection. And that usually happens when they can't get positive yards on first downs running.

3rd and longs are where the two NFC west midgets really toast our defense. I'm going to be really happy next year when Kyle's going to return the favor with Trey.

Trey's ability to buy time if the pass protection breaks down will be the difference maker on 3rd downs vs Jimmy - in those obvious passing situations. Then add in a good run game (hopefully Sermon, Mitchell, Hasty, and Wilson will be 100% healthy next year) and you have the makings of a super bowl offense.

All of these things!

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

Screens off a moving pocket is one way to take care of those kinds of blitzes/stunts. (Example sprint-right option kinds of plays) Kyle just has to anticipate when the DC will blitz. Cinci has a good DLine so those kinds of blitzes aren't called by the DC much, and were a surprise for sure. I think Kyle's just going to have to change up on offense once the playoffs come and he's dealing with a top of the line Pass rush.

We really need Mitchell and Jeff Wilson in the playoffs, if we're to have any chance of avoiding One-and-Done scenarios.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

Screens off a moving pocket is one way to take care of those kinds of blitzes/stunts. (Example sprint-right option kinds of plays) Kyle just has to anticipate when the DC will blitz. Cinci has a good DLine so those kinds of blitzes aren't called by the DC much, and were a surprise for sure. I think Kyle's just going to have to change up on offense once the playoffs come and he's dealing with a top of the line Pass rush.

We really need Mitchell and Jeff Wilson in the playoffs, if we're to have any chance of avoiding One-and-Done scenarios.

I do NOT trust Compton vs Micah Parsons or Shaq Barrett. If we match up there Imma have diarrhea for a week.

My bigger frustration were things where we had the blockers but didn't execute. It's not like Jimmy needs 4.5 seconds. We've all seen him do really well if you give him 3+ seconds. That's it. We just need that long. Gotta be able to get that outside zone-counters going. That puts a lot more stress on those DE's and force them to read in/out run before switching to the pass rush.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I do NOT trust Compton vs Micah Parsons or Shaq Barrett. If we match up there Imma have diarrhea for a week.

My bigger frustration were things where we had the blockers but didn't execute. It's not like Jimmy needs 4.5 seconds. We've all seen him do really well if you give him 3+ seconds. That's it. We just need that long. Gotta be able to get that outside zone-counters going. That puts a lot more stress on those DE's and force them to read in/out run before switching to the pass rush.

in your fillm studies, do we even help compton with chips or anything ?

I don't remember any when watching the games

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

The issue is all the times he checks it down when he shouldn't, or doesn't check down when he should.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

The issue is all the times he checks it down when he shouldn't, or doesn't check down when he should.

i wished Jiimmy checked down.. he can only see the middle of the field and won't throw it elsewhere

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

The issue is all the times he checks it down when he shouldn't, or doesn't check down when he should.

i wished Jiimmy checked down.. he can only see the middle of the field and won't throw it elsewhere

Did you even watch? Nope.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

The issue is all the times he checks it down when he shouldn't, or doesn't check down when he should.

i wished Jiimmy checked down.. he can only see the middle of the field and won't throw it elsewhere

Did you even watch? Nope.

lol.. yes... i've seen every throw.. even the one that's not on that graphic

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

The issue is all the times he checks it down when he shouldn't, or doesn't check down when he should.

i wished Jiimmy checked down.. he can only see the middle of the field and won't throw it elsewhere

Did you even watch? Nope.

This is also missing the throw to Benjamin that doesn't fit on the chart

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I do NOT trust Compton vs Micah Parsons or Shaq Barrett. If we match up there Imma have diarrhea for a week.

My bigger frustration were things where we had the blockers but didn't execute. It's not like Jimmy needs 4.5 seconds. We've all seen him do really well if you give him 3+ seconds. That's it. We just need that long. Gotta be able to get that outside zone-counters going. That puts a lot more stress on those DE's and force them to read in/out run before switching to the pass rush.

in your fillm studies, do we even help compton with chips or anything ?

I don't remember any when watching the games

Very rarely. When we do it's George Kittle staying in to block on play action. Dropback passing? Hardly ever.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I do NOT trust Compton vs Micah Parsons or Shaq Barrett. If we match up there Imma have diarrhea for a week.

My bigger frustration were things where we had the blockers but didn't execute. It's not like Jimmy needs 4.5 seconds. We've all seen him do really well if you give him 3+ seconds. That's it. We just need that long. Gotta be able to get that outside zone-counters going. That puts a lot more stress on those DE's and force them to read in/out run before switching to the pass rush.

in your fillm studies, do we even help compton with chips or anything ?

I don't remember any when watching the games

Very rarely. When we do it's George Kittle staying in to block on play action. Dropback passing? Hardly ever.

we should treat the LDE like Bosa gets treated

why does everyone say "gifted fumbled punts"? the first one ESPECIALLY, cracraft was f**king ON that like a homing missle. We talk all the time about taking advantage of mistakes, and that could've EASILY been recovered by the punt returner if cracraft wasn't on his keys and just missled in. 100% we deserve credit for making that play happen. The 2nd punt return ok, that one took a really bad bounce for bengals but STILL, you have to have guys there and we did. Nothing was given to us

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Your standard great job, JD, and now i see why our OL looked so bad on PP. The DE stunt up the gut was successful with virtually no one home to take care of him. That must be a brute to figure out how to handle that. It happens so dang fast it seems almost impossible to be able to stop. Really good call by Cincy's DC.

A lot of folks make fun of "check down Jimmy" but realization that your OL has not blocked somebody calls for instant recognition and immediate release …so check down is an absolute must. Glad you showed that , and thanks. No wonder the PP looked so bad…there were some very good calls by Cincy in those cases.

The issue is all the times he checks it down when he shouldn't, or doesn't check down when he should.

i wished Jiimmy checked down.. he can only see the middle of the field and won't throw it elsewhere

Did you even watch? Nope.

This is also missing the throw to Benjamin that doesn't fit on the chart

We stretched the field horizontally, had success on the final drive passing to the sidelines to Jennings, and scored the game winning touchdown with a play action drag route.

That's all I care about with Jimmy. Just don't be super predictable. And I give him credit for that this game.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
why does everyone say "gifted fumbled punts"? the first one ESPECIALLY, cracraft was f**king ON that like a homing missle. We talk all the time about taking advantage of mistakes, and that could've EASILY been recovered by the punt returner if cracraft wasn't on his keys and just missled in. 100% we deserve credit for making that play happen. The 2nd punt return ok, that one took a really bad bounce for bengals but STILL, you have to have guys there and we did. Nothing was given to us

Yeah when it comes to fumbles, I'll take anything I can get. We've been insanely unlucky or non-aggressive going after them or a combo of both.