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Week 14 Cincinnati Bengals Coaches Film Analysis

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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
JD one thing needs to be said about offensive "efficiency" - was gifted two very short fields. Again, this OL is the weak link. If we can't run and have to rely on pass pro, that's going to be our kryptonite every time.
This literally happens in every football game. Team A turns the ball over and Team B takes advantage of it. We were Team B on Sunday and Team A the Sunday before that.

This literally doesn't happen every game to good teams though.

He's meaning the turnover margin. Good teams have a better turnover margin in general. We could easily have recovered 2 other fumbles and not the punts and had the same turnover margin. Watching the film I was shocked Al-Shaiir didn't make the pick on that crazy bounce play where chase somehow caught it. He made a great break on the ball and it just bounced off his arms.

Fact is,ots of things can go different ways. If we win the turnover battle, whichever way, we will most likely win.

Who's to say CIN doesn't turn the ball over on those 2 drives?
Originally posted by jonnydel:
There were SO. MANY. PLAYS. in this game. Hardest part was figuring out what to include and what not to. Spent a good bit of time on the defense and how we gave up so many yards in the 4th. I started with 32 plays to cover and had to pair it down to 27.

Great job as always johnnydel
I have a question on 1play. The deebo completion, should that ball have gone to aiyuk? I only have seen low quality, but it looks like the deep 1/3rd bit on deebo early leaving the corner route wide open.
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
There were SO. MANY. PLAYS. in this game. Hardest part was figuring out what to include and what not to. Spent a good bit of time on the defense and how we gave up so many yards in the 4th. I started with 32 plays to cover and had to pair it down to 27.

Start a Patreon, then start breaking down the entire games.
I watch a lot of guys break down film on youtube.
You're the best.

A few former players go do a good job (Tim Jenkins, JT O'Sullivan, Baldy etc) but none of them understand our offense philosophy like you do and can talk about the changes and adjustments that happen week to week or even quarter to quarter.

Agreed. The paywall also gives you more freedom with the NFL as well (Chapman just spoke to that in his latest pod).
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I have a question on 1play. The deebo completion, should that ball have gone to aiyuk? I only have seen low quality, but it looks like the deep 1/3rd bit on deebo early leaving the corner route wide open.

Nope. Someone posted a picture on Twitter that was just wrong. The deep safety took Aiyuk on the post the whole time. The player who hit Deebo right after the catch was the backside corner
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
There were SO. MANY. PLAYS. in this game. Hardest part was figuring out what to include and what not to. Spent a good bit of time on the defense and how we gave up so many yards in the 4th. I started with 32 plays to cover and had to pair it down to 27.

Start a Patreon, then start breaking down the entire games.
I watch a lot of guys break down film on youtube.
You're the best.

A few former players go do a good job (Tim Jenkins, JT O'Sullivan, Baldy etc) but none of them understand our offense philosophy like you do and can talk about the changes and adjustments that happen week to week or even quarter to quarter.

Agreed. The paywall also gives you more freedom with the NFL as well (Chapman just spoke to that in his latest pod).

Since using gamepass international I haven't hit any copyright issues. It doesn't have the NFL watermark.

In all, just comes down to time.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
There were SO. MANY. PLAYS. in this game. Hardest part was figuring out what to include and what not to. Spent a good bit of time on the defense and how we gave up so many yards in the 4th. I started with 32 plays to cover and had to pair it down to 27.

Start a Patreon, then start breaking down the entire games.
I watch a lot of guys break down film on youtube.
You're the best.

A few former players go do a good job (Tim Jenkins, JT O'Sullivan, Baldy etc) but none of them understand our offense philosophy like you do and can talk about the changes and adjustments that happen week to week or even quarter to quarter.

Agreed. The paywall also gives you more freedom with the NFL as well (Chapman just spoke to that in his latest pod).

Since using gamepass international I haven't hit any copyright issues. It doesn't have the NFL watermark.

In all, just comes down to time.

That's great! It's gotta be exciting that people want more of your work though. Keep doing your thing!
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
There were SO. MANY. PLAYS. in this game. Hardest part was figuring out what to include and what not to. Spent a good bit of time on the defense and how we gave up so many yards in the 4th. I started with 32 plays to cover and had to pair it down to 27.

Start a Patreon, then start breaking down the entire games.
I watch a lot of guys break down film on youtube.
You're the best.

A few former players go do a good job (Tim Jenkins, JT O'Sullivan, Baldy etc) but none of them understand our offense philosophy like you do and can talk about the changes and adjustments that happen week to week or even quarter to quarter.

Agreed. The paywall also gives you more freedom with the NFL as well (Chapman just spoke to that in his latest pod).

Since using gamepass international I haven't hit any copyright issues. It doesn't have the NFL watermark.

In all, just comes down to time.

Would it be possible for someone to assist you and make the time needed more manageable?
[ Edited by a49erfan77 on Dec 16, 2021 at 7:55 AM ]
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I have a question on 1play. The deebo completion, should that ball have gone to aiyuk? I only have seen low quality, but it looks like the deep 1/3rd bit on deebo early leaving the corner route wide open.

Nope. Someone posted a picture on Twitter that was just wrong. The deep safety took Aiyuk on the post the whole time. The player who hit Deebo right after the catch was the backside corner

Thank you. The only view i saw over and over was from the 49ers youtube baldy breakdown. It did not show a deeper safety in frame.

Went back and watched it again. I can't see the middle 1/3rd take aiyuk. But his lack of coming down on deebo is telling.
[ Edited by jdt84_2 on Dec 16, 2021 at 8:11 AM ]
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Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Excellent work as always, Jonny. I think my favorite play from the game was that back shoulder to Jennings. Reminded me of what we see Rodgers and Adams do about 8 times a game.

As you said, pass protection is a huge concern. It's going to take a hell of a lot of great scheming to overcome the constant failures of Compton and Brunskill. If there is one thing that causes me to doubt our chances of winning in the playoffs, it's that. Dallas, Arizona, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, and LA all have pretty strong pass rushes.

Agreed. The good news is that once Kyle emphasized the check downs last week, we saw more of that this week so between his reads and quick release, that helps out the pass protection a ton.

That said, when they collapse, as you saw, it's usually all of them failing at once and under 2 seconds. Or worse, Jimmy ends up taking a kill shot from an unlocked defender. And we forget, Jimmy was gimpy after that big hit JD highlighted.

If I'm a defense that's going to be blitz happy, I'd obviously want to double Kittle and Deebo. Just by doing the math, I'd have to leave 3rd and 4th pass receiver single covered or choose to double either the 3rd or 4th and leave one uncovered. Jauan's development is going to be key in breaking these types of blitz happy playoff defenses that have a good DLine to back them up. Really am happy Jauan's becoming a receiving threat like the other three.

That might work on 3rd and long but doubling Kittle and Deebo makes them much more effective as blockers and decoys. Next thing you know Juice and the running game is eating them alive because they're taking so many guys out of the play.

Not many defensive coordinators get away with not playing Kyle straight up on first and second down.

Zimmer is probably the closest because he crowds the middle of the field and dares us to run and pass into his elite safeties (and MLB).

I remember back in the Steve Young days, folks would play Mike Shanahan's offense straight up on first and second downs and still couldn't stop Watters, Rice, Taylor and Jones. With Steve, on 3rd and longs, converting 3rd downs was no problem. They ate up chunks of yardage on first downs and pretty much scored on their opening drives.

Kyle's offense isn't there yet, but I can see signs of it going in that direction. Trey for Steve. Deebo/Aiyuk - Rice/Taylor. Kittle-Brent. Michell for Watters? That 3rd receiver that made the offense so hard to stop was Ed McCaffrey. The guy could catch anything - but he wasn't very fast - sort of like Jauan. Everybody else was covered, and McCaffrey would come down with first down catches - he didn't play a lot, but he played on the 3 wide and 4 wide sets and would blow up blitzes or beat teams dropping 8 men in coverage.
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
I have a question on 1play. The deebo completion, should that ball have gone to aiyuk? I only have seen low quality, but it looks like the deep 1/3rd bit on deebo early leaving the corner route wide open.

Nope. Someone posted a picture on Twitter that was just wrong. The deep safety took Aiyuk on the post the whole time. The player who hit Deebo right after the catch was the backside corner

Thank you. The only view i saw over and over was from the 49ers youtube baldy breakdown. It did not show a deeper safety in frame.

Went back and watched it again. I can't see the middle 1/3rd take aiyuk. But his lack of coming down on deebo is telling.

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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Since using gamepass international I haven't hit any copyright issues. It doesn't have the NFL watermark.

In all, just comes down to time.


Originally posted by NCommand:
That's great! It's gotta be exciting that people want more of your work though. Keep doing your thing!

Yeah JD, I forget where I saw it on your YouTube videos or Twitter but it seems that more people are viewing your content bro. Awesome work man and I think if you keep doing it, eventually this may be something you can get paid for and rightfully so!
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Yeah JD, I forget where I saw it on your YouTube videos or Twitter but it seems that more people are viewing your content bro. Awesome work man and I think if you keep doing it, eventually this may be something you can get paid for and rightfully so!

There are other content creators that do the entire NFL, but since JD focuses on the 49ers, he's able to give in depth insight of the team that the others simply cannot. When Trey takes over, I think JD's channel has a chance to really grow as all 49er fans will be interested in how Trey develops on a week to week basis. Keep up the good stuff jd.
One suggestion JD, when starting a play breakdown, state the down and distance and the quarter that the play takes place in. I know it sucks now that there isn't a playlist to sync with the video (stupid GamePass), but I think that'd help viewers recall when the play took place and the game situation.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Yeah JD, I forget where I saw it on your YouTube videos or Twitter but it seems that more people are viewing your content bro. Awesome work man and I think if you keep doing it, eventually this may be something you can get paid for and rightfully so!

There are other content creators that do the entire NFL, but since JD focuses on the 49ers, he's able to give in depth insight of the team that the others simply cannot. When Trey takes over, I think JD's channel has a chance to really grow as all 49er fans will be interested in how Trey develops on a week to week basis. Keep up the good stuff jd.
One suggestion JD, when starting a play breakdown, state the down and distance and the quarter that the play takes place in. I know it sucks now that there isn't a playlist to sync with the video (stupid GamePass), but I think that'd help viewers recall when the play took place and the game situation.

I wish I had that too. As you've seen from the film, the international gamepass doesn't show that between plays. The only way for me to keep track would be to sit with a play-by-play summary and reference where I'm at, which would be so exhaustive to try and keep track of.

When I mention it, it's purely off memory from watching the game live on gameday
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Since using gamepass international I haven't hit any copyright issues. It doesn't have the NFL watermark.

In all, just comes down to time.


Originally posted by NCommand:
That's great! It's gotta be exciting that people want more of your work though. Keep doing your thing!

Yeah JD, I forget where I saw it on your YouTube videos or Twitter but it seems that more people are viewing your content bro. Awesome work man and I think if you keep doing it, eventually this may be something you can get paid for and rightfully so!

Well, I do make money off the ad revenue. It's not like anything major but it does help around the holidays.
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