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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at TENNESSEE TITANS - 2021 Game 15

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Besides Jimmy's bum ass this is what cost us:

The 49ers gave up third-down conversions when Tennessee needed 11, 3, 10, 15, 7, 10, 23, 10 and 8 yards.

horrible, we need Moseley back. Also, Dee Ford and Verrett were major losses

I think fatigue by the short week and aj brown being super fresh was what caused that.

What fatigue? It was dead even in TOP.

The defense played fine, they did what they were supposed to do for as long as they could. Bosa and company had TEN flustered for almost the entire 1st half. The niners should have put up at least 21+ by half-time if it wasn't for Jimmy. It was only a matter of time before TEN got into some groove offensively.

What I don't get is we were running the ball effectively but I feel like we passed more than we ran again.
Kinda figured this would be a tougher game due to the short week and two time zone travel schedule.....but that had nothing to do with this loss. The 49ers truly gave this game away, and it came down for the most part because of two areas. The deficiencies in the secondary was always gonna be a problem until (if) they addressed it next year, and there is only so much scheming you can do to hide those deficiencies. Then there is the QB. Garoppolo's first int obviously cost the Niners points - and admittedly I got a bad feeling about what would be the final outcome - but at least the team came back with another score to go up 10-0. The missed TD to Juice is simply inexcusable, and the second interception is unfortunately typical of Garoppolo.....that set up a short field and a Titan TD. That was easily one of his poorest performances.

I didn't have much belief this team could really make a serious run, despite all the pundits and their 'nobody wants to play the 49ers in the playoffs' babbling, but last nights game had that turn the page feeling, and I now look more forward to Trey Lance and next year.
Most atrocious game I've seen from Jimmy all year in a huge huge game. We now have to win out or it's all over for us. I don't see us making the playoffs without winning out.
Originally posted by Deebo:
Jimmy can't even beat his own meat

No need. He has Kiara Mia to do it.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Most atrocious game I've seen from Jimmy all year in a huge huge game. We now have to win out or it's all over for us. I don't see us making the playoffs without winning out.

I don't see us making the playoffs because the rams at home is a tough task and yes they will have revenge in their mind, hard to beat a team twice
Originally posted by 9ers4u:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by jds_49ers:
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Originally posted by jds_49ers:
Un fortuantly Lynch and Kyle built a team with good/great players in positions you dont need them and trash players in the places you need them to be consistant. Our QB play has been avg at best for the entre time they have been in charge. And our secondary is one of the worst in the leauge. You cant win with medicore play at those two positions.

IF we make the playoffs we will lose be ritual sodomy and the best thing will be knowing that is Jimmy's last game in a 49er uniform.

Finally be rid of that bum

I fully expect Jimmy to play here next year as well. They only will give him up for a high pick that no one is going to give. And I dont see them just releasing him.

No way the fans will be ok with that plan. He should have been benched a long time ago. We are just delaying Trey's development and extending our pain with that sad ducking excuse for an nfl QB. We don't need jmmy to play like Brady we just need a qb who protects the ball and hits wide open receivers. That's it. He can't do it he simply can't. Releasing him is better than playing him.

"They decided to keep that guy?"

I believe it was that motherf**ker.
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is a .500 club in talent and mentality. It just is. It's still a playoff team though.

Disagree strongly. With better QB play this team is a 11 win team right now. We all got suckered in by good game managing the last few weeks, but because the interceptions were dropped (like the one at the end of regulation against the Bengals), and because the Falcons are pure garbage, we get fooled by the mirage. We have a mediocre QB, and we keep forgetting it. We have a guy who can't make throws that 31 other starts can consistently make (the one to Juice). Jimmy has one skill set, and that's the fast release. He has nothing else. He doesn't have it between the ears, he doesn't have it mechanically, he's not particularly accurate. What is it about him, in terms of traits, actual, observable, QB skills, that causes people to believe he's top 10 around here?

Next year this team will be better by subtraction, because Trey Lance will be under center.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is a .500 club in talent and mentality. It just is. It's still a playoff team though.

Disagree strongly. With better QB play this team is a 11 win team right now. We all got suckered in by good game managing the last few weeks, but because the interceptions were dropped (like the one at the end of regulation against the Bengals), and because the Falcons are pure garbage, we get fooled by the mirage. We have a mediocre QB, and we keep forgetting it. We have a guy who can't make throws that 31 other starts can consistently make (the one to Juice). Jimmy has one skill set, and that's the fast release. He has nothing else. He doesn't have it between the ears, he doesn't have it mechanically, he's not particularly accurate. What is it about him, in terms of traits, actual, observable, QB skills, that causes people to believe he's top 10 around here?

Next year this team will be better by subtraction, because Trey Lance will be under center.

If this were the case Trey would be starting now.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by WeTheNorth:
Its the inconsistencies.

One play he is magnificent. The next play he makes a game changing mistake.

Shanahan can scheme open plays for anyone but he needs a QB that can execute and not make mistakes. Garrapolo juat cannot do it.

No. Kyle can scheme when he scripts. Theres a reason the team stopped playing well on offense. The Titans adjusted. Kyle got outcoached and made no adjustments. Where was kittle today? 14 rushes with Wilson? Pathetic. Shanahan is not anywhere close to where Vrabel is as a head coach. People here are just in denial.

This is not correct. What happens is, after the script is over, the passing offense must rely on the QB reading the defense. Jimmy is like Kap in that regard. Case in point: on the 4th down, Aiyuk — a wide receiver — correctly reads that the defense is in zone, and so correctly sits down in the hole. Jimmy — a QB whose primary job is reading defenses — throws the pass as if it's man coverage, attempting to lead Aiyuk. Jimmy claims he couldn't see Aiyuk. But he should have known Aiyuk was going to sit down, because he should have known it was zone. And he should have known the general vicinity Aiyuk would have been, because he could see the defenders sitting in a zone, and Aiyuk would have been sitting down between them.

But he doesn't read defenses post snap much at all. Never has, probably never will. He is a 30 year old rookie when it comes to reading defenses post-snap.

This is something I keep saying here: people on this forum simply haven't seen great quarterbacking in so long that they mistake what Jimmy does for it. When Trey is ready, maybe next year, but definitely in two, all those people will realize what we've been missing. And it's not just arm strength or athleticism. Trey brings things that Jimmy doesn't. Like reading a defense, protecting the ball, etc. He's not there on the former yet, because he's a rookie. But even then, Trey still sees defenders. There's a reason he went a whole season in college without throwing a pick, and it's not just the competition. He's careful with the ball, and generally can spot defenders lurking. Jimmy can't, and when Trey takes over, and our boneheaded turnovers drop, our wins are going to jump up.

I imagine then this nightmare will be forgotten. Or, god forbid, instead of a QB who throws idiotic passes, we'll have one with bad accuracy, or one who is too hesitant to throw when a defender is in his line of sight but not actually in a position to make a play on the ball (if you watch Trey's college film, this was one huge weakness, the other one being his bouncy throwing rhythm which led to inaccuracy). But even then, he'll pick up yards running when he hesitates like that, and the offense will be just a little bit better. As will the team, assuming we can keep enough of these guys about to leave.

So yeah. Wait until Trey takes over. You'll see what happens when the QB doesn't hand the game to the defense.
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is a .500 club in talent and mentality. It just is. It's still a playoff team though.

Disagree strongly. With better QB play this team is a 11 win team right now. We all got suckered in by good game managing the last few weeks, but because the interceptions were dropped (like the one at the end of regulation against the Bengals), and because the Falcons are pure garbage, we get fooled by the mirage. We have a mediocre QB, and we keep forgetting it. We have a guy who can't make throws that 31 other starts can consistently make (the one to Juice). Jimmy has one skill set, and that's the fast release. He has nothing else. He doesn't have it between the ears, he doesn't have it mechanically, he's not particularly accurate. What is it about him, in terms of traits, actual, observable, QB skills, that causes people to believe he's top 10 around here?

Next year this team will be better by subtraction, because Trey Lance will be under center.

If this were the case Trey would be starting now.

No, because Trey in June is going to be better than Trey right now. Additionally, there are other factors besides if Trey might actually be slightly better overall than Jimmy, including if Trey is better than Jimmy in key facets of the game, like the 2 minute drill — and I will say he's not. Trey has had maybe four or five drives his entire career in the two minute drill, and I'm also including college. These little things Jimmy will still be much better in because he's a 30 year old vet.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Broadway:
Not true! The 49ers have the tie breaker with Vikings and Eagles.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Far from it. If two of the Vikings, Saints, Eagles finish with the same record as us, we're out.


Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Far from it. If two of the Vikings, Saints, Eagles finish with the same record as us, we're out.

That's not how it works. If there is a 3 team tie, the tie is only broken by head-to-head if all 3 teams have played each other. Vikings and Eagles haven't played each other, so it'll go to divisional record.

No, it comes down to if one team sweeps the other two. Per NFL.com: "Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)"
What sucks is we win this game with colt mc coy as our QB.

jimmy is the highest paid player on this team. 5th highest in the league. And he makes the same damn mistakes. Even in our wins, He's flat footed. He stares down his receivers. He always throws high. He misses wide open receivers. He doesn't know when to just throw the damn ball away. He doesn't get better. And to make it worse, HE NEVER TAKES RESPONSIBILITY. He smiling and joking. Aw shucks guys…….
hey jimmy, FO. YOU lost this game. How thenF do you still have this locker room?????

we would have won with colt mc coy…………
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Dec 24, 2021 at 5:46 AM ]
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
New nickname...Dr. Jimmy and Mr. Hyde

I really don't get the whole Jekyll and Hyde narrative.

Jimmy isnt doing anything that different in his "bad" games that he isnt doing in his "good" ones from QB play point of view.
He makes same mistakes, inability to read defenses. Throws into traffic. Throws that completely neglect a linebacker. Lack of precision on some tight throws. In his good games aside from maybe last week when he was mistake-free, he threads the needle, sometimes Deebo makes an amazing catch out of mid-air. In his good games, DB drops a pick.In bad games, some of those threaded passes in the middle of the field turn into turnovers. Those passes require great precision that he isnt consistent at.

If Jimmy was hitting deep throws one game and completely missing them this game, then Id be like yeah thats inconsistent. Jimmys play isnt that inconsistent. It's the results that are inconsistent. Jimmy is a limited QB who cant throw outside the numbers or down the sideline, can't read defenses and has terrible mechanics. His resiliency and quick release are probably his best qualities.

This is more or less it. Sometimes he does get in the zone, as everyone does. But for the most part, he's always the same guy. Sometimes it's that our starters are injured, and it makes him look worse. But he's basically the same guy.
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
What sucks is we win this game with colt mc coy as our QB.

jimmy is the highest paid player on this team. 5th highest in the league. And he makes the same damn mistakes. Even in our wins, He's flat footed. He stares down his receivers. He always throws high. He misses wide open receivers. He doesn't know when to just throw the damn ball away. He doesn't get better. And to make it worse, HE NEVER TAKES RESPONSIBILITY. He smiling and joking. We shucks guys…….
hey jimmy, FO. YOU lost this game. How thenF do you still have this locker room?????

we would have won with colt mc coy…………

Tell me you watch Grant Cohn's YouTube channel without telling me you watch Grant Cohn's YouTube channel...

Not that he's wrong on this one.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
What sucks is we win this game with colt mc coy as our QB.

jimmy is the highest paid player on this team. 5th highest in the league. And he makes the same damn mistakes. Even in our wins, He's flat footed. He stares down his receivers. He always throws high. He misses wide open receivers. He doesn't know when to just throw the damn ball away. He doesn't get better. And to make it worse, HE NEVER TAKES RESPONSIBILITY. He smiling and joking. We shucks guys…….
hey jimmy, FO. YOU lost this game. How thenF do you still have this locker room?????

we would have won with colt mc coy…………

Tell me you watch Grant Cohn's YouTube channel without telling me you watch Grant Cohn's YouTube channel...

Not that he's wrong on this one.

Ive seen him. Can't stand the guy, but I'm pulling him up now. I'm still F'ing angry about this game. My Seattle friends are leaving memes. F!!
I F'ing can't stand that shannahan loves him some jimmy. The dude lost us this game and still can't take sole responsibility!!!!
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