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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at TENNESSEE TITANS - 2021 Game 15

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Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by Jcool:

That is awesome. The 49ers drafted Alex Smith in 06, I believe. The team is not good at evaluating talent and have never really upgraded the position since?

That's cray cray when you think about it! Almost two decades of suck at the QB position. They haven't had a good QB since Young. Garcia was kinda good but not really.
Nah man Garcia had a few Pro Bowlers. He was good. Probably top 10 for a couple of seasons. But there's a gulf between Hall of Fame and good.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Oh lawd. That was when I was so sure the 49ers were going to tear the league up. At least Patrick Willis balled out.
Originally posted by 49inchesdeep:
Alright fellas the 6 game winning streak starts next week!

Jimmy needs to start taking a bump pregame so that his brain is gone and his awareness expanded. Then he'll go on an improbable run of quality QB play.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
this is just the reason you wan to see Trey next year an give the Bag to WR Mike Williams!

What? our receivers are fine I'd rather give the bag to a corner.

Still no deep threat so the defense can crouch and flood the middle esp. now given that's our bread and butter. I wouldn't mind another target taller than 5'10" too.

Deebo and Aiyuk are both deep threats, and even our fullback in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

are both deep threats, and even our fullback in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

and even our fullback in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

which Jimmy missed.

Jimmy missed.

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THAT is why we don't have a legitimate deep passing game. That right there. NOT our WRs.
Domino effects, Jimmy s**t the bed with turnovers. The Titans scored. The defense pressed to make a play; make bone head mistakes like jumping offsides in 3rd and 23.

When the defense played with the offense in control, they are discipline enough to keep the Titans offense to 55yds the whole half.

When Jimmy s**t the bed, it trickled down to the rest of the team. Alex Smith with all his shortcomings was absolutely right, the qb can't be the one to lose the game.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Dec 24, 2021 at 6:08 AM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by ayleswbj11:
this is just the reason you wan to see Trey next year an give the Bag to WR Mike Williams!

What? our receivers are fine I'd rather give the bag to a corner.

Still no deep threat so the defense can crouch and flood the middle esp. now given that's our bread and butter. I wouldn't mind another target taller than 5'10" too.

Deebo and Aiyuk are both deep threats, and even our fullback in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

are both deep threats, and even our fullback in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

and even our fullback in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

in this scheme is a deep threat, as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

as seen by the misdirection play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

play-call that got us a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

a sure touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

touchdown, which Jimmy missed.

which Jimmy missed.

Jimmy missed.

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THAT is why we don't have a legitimate deep passing game. That right there. NOT our WRs.

LOL
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Domino effects, Jimmy s**t the bed with turnovers. The Titans scored. The defense pressed to make a play; make bone head mistakes like jumping offsides in 3rd and 23.

When the defense played with the offense in control, they are discipline enough to keep the Titans offense to 55yds the whole half.

When Jimmy s**t the bed, it trickled down to the rest of the team.

Maybe someone should update this image to reflect what you posted:

Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Besides Jimmy's bum ass this is what cost us:

The 49ers gave up third-down conversions when Tennessee needed 11, 3, 10, 15, 7, 10, 23, 10 and 8 yards.

horrible, we need Moseley back. Also, Dee Ford and Verrett were major losses

I think fatigue by the short week and aj brown being super fresh was what caused that.

What fatigue? It was dead even in TOP.

The defense played fine, they did what they were supposed to do for as long as they could. Bosa and company had TEN flustered for almost the entire 1st half. The niners should have put up at least 21+ by half-time if it wasn't for Jimmy. It was only a matter of time before TEN got into some groove offensively.

What I don't get is we were running the ball effectively but I feel like we passed more than we ran again.

So you're just going to ignore the second half?
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL

Ya they are only fast with the football in their hands. Until they don't have the ball, they run routes like OL. Once they get the ball then they have really good speed.
I had a bad feeling about the game when Shanny pulled a Mariucci at the half with 1 minute to play and two time outs.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is a .500 club in talent and mentality. It just is. It's still a playoff team though.

Disagree strongly. With better QB play this team is a 11 win team right now. We all got suckered in by good game managing the last few weeks, but because the interceptions were dropped (like the one at the end of regulation against the Bengals), and because the Falcons are pure garbage, we get fooled by the mirage. We have a mediocre QB, and we keep forgetting it. We have a guy who can't make throws that 31 other starts can consistently make (the one to Juice). Jimmy has one skill set, and that's the fast release. He has nothing else. He doesn't have it between the ears, he doesn't have it mechanically, he's not particularly accurate. What is it about him, in terms of traits, actual, observable, QB skills, that causes people to believe he's top 10 around here?

Next year this team will be better by subtraction, because Trey Lance will be under center.

You're living in a fantasy world. We've had 32 players hit I.R. and more to come (Azeez). It was, like their QB, a top 12-15 roster even before all the annual injuries. They never had the horses and that goes well beyond the QB.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 24, 2021 at 6:16 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Still no deep threat so the defense can crouch and flood the middle esp. now given that's our bread and butter. I wouldn't mind another target taller than 5'10" too.

lollll
Originally posted by leebert81:
I had a bad feeling about the game when Shanny pulled a Mariucci at the half with 1 minute to play and two time outs.

What happened the next Titans possession should tell you exactly why he did it. The defense is weak on the back end. You saw that no-call on the obvious PI by Thomas. We give the ball back to them, they throw deep, and the game is so different.

If instead Jimmy protects the ball to open the half, maybe we go down and score. Shanahan made that decision based upon the assumption that Jimmy was not going to completely s**t the bed the rest of the game. In hindsight it was the wrong decision. In highsight not starting Trey week 1 was the wrong decision (because by now he'd be a competent NFL starter, and the way the NFC has shaked out, we might be in the same position we are now, except with a more dangerous QB).

When the offense had that penalty, conservative became the right decision. The way Jimmy played in the second half, what makes you so sure he doesn't throw another interception? And with the way the defense played going forward, what makes you so sure the Titans don't throw one up, get a PI, and score right before half time?
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 9ers4u:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by jds_49ers:
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Originally posted by jds_49ers:
Un fortuantly Lynch and Kyle built a team with good/great players in positions you dont need them and trash players in the places you need them to be consistant. Our QB play has been avg at best for the entre time they have been in charge. And our secondary is one of the worst in the leauge. You cant win with medicore play at those two positions.

IF we make the playoffs we will lose be ritual sodomy and the best thing will be knowing that is Jimmy's last game in a 49er uniform.

Finally be rid of that bum

I fully expect Jimmy to play here next year as well. They only will give him up for a high pick that no one is going to give. And I dont see them just releasing him.

No way the fans will be ok with that plan. He should have been benched a long time ago. We are just delaying Trey's development and extending our pain with that sad ducking excuse for an nfl QB. We don't need jmmy to play like Brady we just need a qb who protects the ball and hits wide open receivers. That's it. He can't do it he simply can't. Releasing him is better than playing him.

"They decided to keep that guy?"

I believe it was that motherf**ker.



With Jimmy's screwups, who else would he have been talking about? He knows our guy like his back hand by now.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is a .500 club in talent and mentality. It just is. It's still a playoff team though.

Disagree strongly. With better QB play this team is a 11 win team right now. We all got suckered in by good game managing the last few weeks, but because the interceptions were dropped (like the one at the end of regulation against the Bengals), and because the Falcons are pure garbage, we get fooled by the mirage. We have a mediocre QB, and we keep forgetting it. We have a guy who can't make throws that 31 other starts can consistently make (the one to Juice). Jimmy has one skill set, and that's the fast release. He has nothing else. He doesn't have it between the ears, he doesn't have it mechanically, he's not particularly accurate. What is it about him, in terms of traits, actual, observable, QB skills, that causes people to believe he's top 10 around here?

Next year this team will be better by subtraction, because Trey Lance will be under center.

You're living in a fantasy world. We've had 32 players hit I.R. and more to come (Azeez). It was, like their QB, a top 12-15 roster even before all the annual injuries. They never had the horses and that goes well beyond the QB.

I'm living in the a fantasy world? You're the one who seems oblivious to the fact that our QB is holding u̶p̶ back the ELITE, TOP OF THE LINE weapons this team has.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Dec 24, 2021 at 6:19 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
You're living in a fantasy world. We've had 32 players hit I.R. and more to come (Azeez). It was, like their QB, a top 12-15 roster even before all the annual injuries. They never had the horses and that goes well beyond the QB.

Not really. A functioning NFL QB wins that game yesterday....that's 9 wins. One of the Sea games? Cards games? Colts? Injuries have hurt, no question, but there is easily enough talent where the QB makes a major difference.
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